surprising is usually bad tbh .. its like failing to live up to its brand is 'surprising' but even moreso its 'jarring'
1975 is a great number one single for pitchfork because it bucks both the staid indie dude status quo & the more conservative aspects of the new poptimist regime at the same time, nice Leadership! esp compared to Bodak Yellow imho
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 09:15 (five years ago) link
(further mitski at #1 is slightly more conservative/less poptimist than kacey which is disappointing for me personally but good for list balance ... let 1975 have the singles but the more predictable/on brand choice gets albums)
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 09:19 (five years ago) link
imo they should've just switched snail mail and soccer mommy, it'd have paired well with the cardi/cupcakke upset: the more formally proficient artists who play more against type in their respective genres over the zesty hyped new stars.
― austinb, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 09:22 (five years ago) link
soccer mommy also plays more with open tunings and ambient noise in a way that fits more with the ~soundscape~ leanings that p4k feels focused on at this point, snail mail just makes pretty good-to-sometimes-very good punk-pop
― austinb, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 09:23 (five years ago) link
"stables" is awesome
― nxd, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 10:14 (five years ago) link
Happy to see Mitski at #1 but lol @ Sleep being the only top 50 worthy metal band according to p4k (unless you count Deafheaven…).
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 10:18 (five years ago) link
mitski is a great pick for #1 and only someone who'd listened with half an ear would call her a conservative choice
― imago, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 10:26 (five years ago) link
plodding nonsense
― ||||||||, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 10:26 (five years ago) link
you mean, dazzling, intricate and emotional songwriting with beautiful production and a flair for the unexpected
― imago, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 10:31 (five years ago) link
no laurel halo, no deal
― devvvine, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 10:33 (five years ago) link
didn't mind the p4k albums list (though it's missing most of my personal faves) but there was nothing on it I didn't already know so was mostly interesting to see their arbitrary ranking of artists/albums which I don't care much abt
and then there's lists like the Textura one which seem to exist in a seperate universe because I don't even know any of the ~100 artists that made the best music of 2018 in their world (but I'm checking it out now and there's def good stuff there)
― niels, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 10:35 (five years ago) link
― imago, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 4:31 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
idk to me it sounded like tom tom club sorta
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 10:40 (five years ago) link
wat
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 10:45 (five years ago) link
Textura is extremely good for discoveries, and their recommendations usually make about 25% of my non-metal year lists, but they do exist in a highly idiosyncratic universe to the rest of the internet music community - that wonderful Anne Garner record that made their #1 has only four ratings on RYM (and one is mine). Chloe March (#4, another favourite of mine) has none. Maya Beiser (#1 classical) has none. Nobody seems to even listen to this stuff, it's crazy.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 10:50 (five years ago) link
What sort of music is the Textura list in the main?
― imago, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 10:53 (five years ago) link
Maya Beiser is an incredible cellist, I just have a hard time overcoming my lack of appetence for anything David Lang-related. I'll be sure to check out Chloe March.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 10:56 (five years ago) link
okayafrica list way upthread is real good"fela in versace" probs my pick of the bunch
― nxd, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 11:02 (five years ago) link
there's another okayafrica list today btw:
The 30 Best South African Songs of 2018https://www.okayafrica.com/south-african-songs-best-2018-listen-stream/
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 11:04 (five years ago) link
awesome cheers
buuuut no solo simmy :'(
― nxd, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 11:10 (five years ago) link
get a slightly creepy vibe off the textura list, reading through it, tbh
― imago, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 11:58 (five years ago) link
the Anne Garner album was definitely a nice find
― ufo, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 11:58 (five years ago) link
How so? (I've only skimmed through it.)
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:05 (five years ago) link
It's impossible to imagine any British person who doesn't attend holiday camp festivals voluntarily choosing to listen to an artist called 'Soccer Mommy' though. I mean Snail Mail was bad enough you guys.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 2:16 AM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
jess argued convincingly on fb 'snail mail' is actually the worse name for being chosen by someone who never actually used 'snail mail'
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, December 11, 2018
I was going to ask on that Jess thread, "What about Speedy Ortiz?" (whom I like, a lot).
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:14 (five years ago) link
textura is in the same sort of ballpark as sites like a closer listen and fluid radio who also i think start putting out lists at this time of year if you . kind of the conservatoire end of experimental/ambient music, nothing at all street about anything they cover afaict, so it's a distinctly different flavour to the wire or something. it's sort of r3 late junction music?
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:25 (five years ago) link
late junction is more whimsical iirc
― ogmor, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:26 (five years ago) link
definitely more experimental hardanger fiddle tbf
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link
you need to venn diagram this stuff for me
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link
i truly love the hardanger fiddle. its absence in these lists smacks of small-minded prejudice and is quite creepy tbh
― ogmor, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:29 (five years ago) link
ogmor otm
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:31 (five years ago) link
Resident Advisor - 2018's Best Albumshttps://www.residentadvisor.net/features/3384
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:43 (five years ago) link
great to see some love for fatima in there, that's a really enjoyable record imo
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:44 (five years ago) link
cosign
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:45 (five years ago) link
Opium Hum's Top 40 (Not Black Metal or Doom Metal Edition):
40. Lawrence – Illusion39. E L U C I D – Shit Don't Rhyme No More38. Donny McCaslin – Blow.37. Ripped to Shreds – 埋葬36. Wata Igarashi – Niskala35. Less Bells – Solifuge34. Vessel – Queen of Golden Dogs33. City Hunter – Deep Blood32. Dead Can Dance – Dionysus31. Arp – Zebra30. Ilyas Ahmed – Closer to Stranger29. Undersave – Sadistic Iterations... Tales of Mental Rearrangement28. GosT – Possessor27. Conway – Everybody Is F.O.O.D.26. Lisa Gerrard & David Kuckhermann – Hiraeth25. Marissa Nadler – For My Crimes24. Nahja Mora – As Death23. Kamaal Williams – The Return22. Emma Ruth Rundle – On Dark Horses21. Rival Consoles – Persona20. Conner Youngblood – Cheyenne19. Andrew W.K. – You're Not Alone18. Scorched – Ecliptic Butchery17. Anenon – Tongue16. Heads. – Collider15. The Caretaker – Everywhere at the End of Time - Stage 414. Arctic Monkeys – Tranquility Base Hotel + Casino13. R+R=NOW – Collagically Speaking12. Brigid Mae Power – The Two Worlds11. Pusha T – Daytona10. Father John Misty – God's Favorite Customer9. Autechre – NTS Sessions 1-48. Steve Tibbetts – Life Of7. Beach House – 76. Kelly Moran – Ultraviolet5. Nine Inch Nails – Bad Witch4. Tor Lundvall – A Dark Place3. Mount Eerie – Now Only2. Oneohtrix Point Never – Age Of1. Low – Double Negative
http://opiumhum.blogspot.com/2018/12/my-40-favorite-albums-of-2018-not-black.html
Bit of a weird list, all things considered, which is at it should be.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link
Here's the full RA albums list:
Autechre - NTS Sessions 1-4Julia Holter - AviaryFatima - And Yet It's All LoveLeon Vynehall - Nothing Is StillLucrecia Dalt - Anticlines Various - 15 Years Of The BunkerVarg - Nordic Flora Pt. 5: CrushSarah Davachi - Gave In RestVarious - Don't Mess With Cupid, 'Cause Cupid Ain't StupidRobyn - Honeyserpentwithfeet - soilChristoph De Babalon - If You're Into It, I'm Out Of ItDemdike Stare - PassionAnthony Naples - Take Me With YouJlin - AutobiographySilvia Kastel - Air LowsMartyn - VoidsPendant - Make Me Know You SweetYves Tumor - Safe In The Hands Of LoveSurgeon - Luminosity DeviceGrouper - Grid Of PointsDJ Healer - Nothing 2 LoosePrime Minister Of Doom - Mudshadow PropagandaMarie Davidson - Working Class WomanDe Leon - De LeonBlawan - Wet Will Always DryHunee - Hunchin' All NightSOPHIE - Oil Of Every Pearl's Un-InsidesDJ Koze - Knock KnockTirzah - DevotionShinichi Atobe - HeatSpecter - Built To LastObjekt - Cocoon CrushBorusiade - A BodyJK Flesh - New HorizonTim Hecker - KonoyoVarious - Kulør 001Deena Abdelwahed - Khonnar HVL - OstatiSkee Mask - Compro
https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/3384
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link
Anthony Naples - Take Me With You
^^ this is a good one, I think they only just reviewed it yesterday.
― calzino, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link
What would a surprising list from a mainstream publication even look like in 2018?
― maura, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 13:42 (five years ago) link
Would have liked to see Sons of Kemet or Makaya McCraven over Kamasi Washington as the the jazz pick but glad someone made it on
― No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link
I just listened to SoK for the first time this morning and was glad to have something to scratch my Melt Yourself Down itch, and then of course I checked the personnel list.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link
lots of women over 35
to be fair to pfork, that was one of the few lists i've seen with both the neneh and cat power records in it. low and robyn too, but yeah, that's still not a lot
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link
xpwhat's kind of odd about Kamasi Washington being the anointed jazz pick for non-jazz pubs is that both those albums are much easier to digest than KW's
― rob, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link
was bummed i didn't get to blurb anything for the pfork albums list but this was the second year in a row my list was radically different from the final lol
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link
I thought Julia Holter might qualify but she's 34
― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:24 (five years ago) link
I imagine Meghan Remy of US Girls is getting pretty close as well
tbh not a lot of ppl over 35 of any klnd on the Pfork list
― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link
absence of roisin murphy on most tracks lists is a global scandal tbh
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link
Also a gross neglect of k-pop and happy hardcore.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
what's kind of odd about Kamasi Washington being the anointed jazz pick for non-jazz pubs is that both those albums are much easier to digest than KW's
I actually feel like KW's uncompromising, exhaustive maximalist aesthetic is part of what non-jazz pubs admire about him. He seems like a "visionary" and reminds them of Coltrane. (I prefer the McCraven album, too.)
― jaymc, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
x-post--Looks like the Rosalia cut is the only non-English language track in the Pitchfork top 100 tracks.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link
xps i was a little disappointed BTS didn't show up on any tracks lists seeing as they've actually made it in america now & "idol" was such a triumph imo - organically blending into gqom into their sound for something that doesn't really sound much like anything else in either korean or american pop at the moment
they did show up on the noisey albums list i guess but i don't really rate the album
― ufo, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link
DJ Booth - 50 Best Hip-Hop and R&B Albums of 2018, Rankedhttps://djbooth.net/features/2018-12-11-best-albums-2018-ranked
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link
maura's point is undeniable, but yeah my version of a genuinely surprising list would be one that had multiple albums from outside the anglosphere.
jaymc: I agree it makes sense in that way. But I think they're doing their readers a disservice by limiting their presentation of jazz to that particular aesthetic. Just speaking personally I'm not sure I've heard every track on the KW yet, while I've listened to all of Universal Beings lots (SoK being even more digestible).
― rob, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link