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The best album Mick Jones made was B.A.D’s ‘Megatop Phoenix’.

it's top 3 for sure

sans lep (sic), Monday, 10 December 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

nothing per se bad abt being pitiable and/or tragic

massaman gai (front tea for two), Monday, 10 December 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link

or vain, erudite and stupid

Ward Fowler, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link

I always wondered about that title. Does each word describe a specific band member? Bruce is definitely "erudite"

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

similar question (as long as I'm derailing): was "experimental, jet set, trash and no star" meant to describe the individual members of Sonic Youth? If so, I'd guess Lee, Kim, Thurston, Steve, respectively

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link

p sure Thurston confirmed that explicitly in an interview (at least, that's my memory)

Οὖτις, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link

can't tell if you guys are joking but there's no comma after "experimental" and experimental jet set is a play on words

Josefa, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

idgi

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

"Not surprisingly, the title had no single explanation. It was either a play on their alter egos - Ranaldo, Gordon, Moore, and Shelly, respectively - or, as Moore told writer Alec Foege, it was inspired by the time Yoshimi P-We, the drummer of... the Boredoms, was in the company of Moore and Gordon and was approached by autograph-seeking kids. "No - no star!" she said, in broken English."

- David Browne, Goodbye 20th Century: A Biography of Sonic Youth, pp. 267-268

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link

I'm still waiting to learn how "experimental jet set" is a play on words

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link

That’s a great Yoshimi story

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link

I think maybe there was a joke that SY had become the 'experimental jet set' after signing to DGC? I don't see a play on words either.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link

I guess because it's a combination of "experimental jet" and "jet set"?

jmm, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

^ that, yeah

Josefa, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link

The Kinks 1964-1971 > The Beatles

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 15 December 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link

agree

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 15 December 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link

Ramsey Lewis's 1970s albums are AT LEAST as good as Herbie Hancock's work from the same era, and in the latter half of the decade, they're better.
I'm a huge Herbie fan, but I would argue the same for George Duke. I mean, the Mwandishi records are still better than anything Duke did, but overall the quality of his output in the 70s is just outstanding, and he was better at integrating funk and especially disco into his music than Herbie ever was.

Tuomas, Sunday, 23 December 2018 09:56 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I dove deep into Duke’s MPS catalog a couple of years ago; great stuff, sadly overlooked now.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 23 December 2018 10:18 (five years ago) link

he's great in Zappa's band too

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 24 December 2018 03:05 (five years ago) link

Bad Bunny album is boring af

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 24 December 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link

Maybe you were expecting J Balvin

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 11:21 (five years ago) link

Post a controversial music opinion: thoughtless music is worse than bad music.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

The Kinks 1964-1971 > The Beatles

― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, December 15, 2018 5:47 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i def agree with this

💫 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link

Tracks >>>>>>> Playlists > Albums

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link

food >>>>> meals

brimstead, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

ALL ALBUMS, ALL THE TIME.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link

A man after my own heart.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

I just have no time for albums in my life now. 3 or 5 minutes can get my complete attention. Why do I then need to hear another 11 tracks from the same artist, of which at least half will be filler? I still love many LPs, but just feel like I've had my fill of them, that is until the theoretical day I get an hour to sit and listen undisturbed, which may never come.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link

I know you are a good person but that sounds like violence to me.

calzino, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

which at least half will be filler?

On a good album there usually is no filler. Take "If you are feeling sinister". And if there is filler it serves a purpose. Like on the white album. Without the filler it would be half as much fun.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

life is filler

ogmor, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link

it's about the notes they don't play

flappy bird, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 20:47 (five years ago) link

Take "If you are feeling sinister".

...please!

http://greatthoughtstreasury.com/sites/default/files/henny%5B1%5D_0.gif

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

I just have no time for albums in my life now. 3 or 5 minutes can get my complete attention. Why do I then need to hear another 11 tracks from the same artist, of which at least half will be filler?

I can understand this POV from someone who only listens to pop music, but it doesn't apply to the genres I listen to at all.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

'I just have no time for full compositions in my life now. 3 or 5 minutes can get my complete attention. Why do I need to hear another 11 movements from the same composer, of which at least half will be filler?'

pomenitul, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link

I chose to read that post as a surreptitious allusion to György Kurtág's 12 Microludes for string quartet.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

Funnily enough, I was listening to a version of Morton Feldman's For Bunita Marcus earlier today that was split into 22 tracks, instead of being a single 75-minute piece. I was idly wondering whether it had been optimized for playlists or something nonsensical like that.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link

Marc-André Hamelin's record is split into 36 tracks, one for each page. Pourquoi pas?

pomenitul, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

*recording

This is a bit of a tangent, but having just stumbled on Norman Lebrecht's review of said recording, I am consistently amazed at how insufferable and frankly useless his opinions can be. For instance, quotes such as 'Contemporary composers are not, on the whole, the most considerate members of the human species' would fit snugly in the rolling worst music writing thread.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

Music’s fine, I guess. Not great. My imo.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link

I don't know if I really even believe this but what the hell:

EPs >>>>> albums

brimstead, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link

Glad to have provided an apparently genuinely controversial music opinion.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link

But this is funny

grawlix (unperson) at 9:07 26 Dec 18
I just have no time for albums in my life now. 3 or 5 minutes can get my complete attention. Why do I then need to hear another 11 tracks from the same artist, of which at least half will be filler?
I can understand this POV from someone who only listens to pop music, but it doesn't apply to the genres I listen to at all.
because I've spent most of the last year listening to the music of 1909 to 1921 and obviously that's completely different, but strangely enough the result is exactly the same.

But guess I've turned all my music listening into a project now and the sheer scale of how much is out there just makes long form music seem like it isn't worth it? So perhaps this is a me problem rather than a genuine controversial opinion.

Otoh grabbing a track or two from an ambient or jazz LP and not bothering with the rest is a perfectly valid way to listen and I feel no guilt about it. And though I love Belle & Sebastian I don't care for IYFS, sorry.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link

If you were listening to popular music of 1909-1921, I expect that much of it wasn't released in album form in the first place?

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 23:02 (five years ago) link

Very little of it, and none originally on LPs of course.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 23:06 (five years ago) link

(Obv, if you mean that you were listening to Ives and Stravinsky, they were mostly not releasing albums either but listening in 3-5m chunks might not always make the most sense.) xp

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link

As it's original recordings only, the only music of that sort I hear is heavily mediated by the limitations of recording media and studios at the time, which doesn't mean there's none, but it's not in the form anyone would expect to hear it now.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 23:22 (five years ago) link

György Kurtág's 12 Microludes for string quartet.

― pomenitul, Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:20 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

somebody reads the new yorker

budo jeru, Thursday, 27 December 2018 00:36 (five years ago) link

I always enjoy remembering that an "album" used to be a bound group of sleeves housing multiple 78s
https://strathdee.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/101022.jpg

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 27 December 2018 00:39 (five years ago) link

Lol did Alex Ross recently publish a piece on Kurtág's Fin de partie or something? Nah, I'm gonna play my hipster card and say that I've been into Kurtág since the early 2000s when I first heard the Keller Quartet's ECM disc of his works for string instruments.

xp

pomenitul, Thursday, 27 December 2018 00:40 (five years ago) link


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