pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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HAND OF DOOM
about drug abuse, mainly heroin.

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Monday, 10 December 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

No. 50: SOB x RBE - Gangin
No. 49: Georgia Anne Muldrow - Overload
No. 48: Kamasi Washington - Heaven and Earth
No. 47: Skee Mask - Compro
No. 46: Blood Orange - Negro Swan
No. 45: Cat Power - Wanderer
No. 44: Camp Cope - How to Socialise & Make Friends
No. 43: Sleep - The Sciences
No. 42: Adrianne Lenker - abysskiss
No. 41: Ty Dolla $ign / Jeremih - MihTy
No. 40: Iceage - Beyondless
No. 39: The Internet - Hive Mind
No. 38: Kali Uchis - Isolation
No. 37: JPEGMAFIA - Veteran
No. 36: Rico Nasty - Nasty
No. 35: A.A.L (Against All Logic) - 2012-2017
No. 34: Neneh Cherry - Broken Politics
No. 33: Sheck Wes - MUDBOY
No. 32: Let's Eat Grandma - I'm All Ears
No. 31: Arctic Monkeys - Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino
No. 30: Christine and the Queens - Chris
No. 29: boygenius - boygenius EP
No. 28: Deafheaven - Ordinary Corrupt Human Love
No. 27: Soccer Mommy - Clean
No. 26: Vince Staples - FM!
No. 25: Playboi Carti - Die Lit
No. 24: Julia Holter - Aviary
No. 23: Travis Scott - Astroworld
No. 22: U.S. Girls - In a Poem Unlimited
No. 21: The 1975 - A Brief Inquiry Into Online Relationships
No. 20: Beach House - 7
No. 19: Cardi B - Invasion of Privacy
No. 18: SOPHIE - OIL OF EVERY PEARL’s UN-INSIDES
No. 17: Pusha-T - Daytona
No. 16: Jon Hopkins - Singularity
No. 15: Noname - Room 25
No. 14: Amen Dunes - Freedom
No. 13: Tirzah - Devotion
No. 12: CupcakKe - Ephorize
No. 11: Ariana Grande - Sweetener
No. 10: Yves Tumor - Safe in the Hands of Love
No. 9: Tierra Whack - Whack World
No. 8: Low - Double Negative
No. 7: Earl Sweatshirt - Some Rap Songs
No. 6: Rosalía - El mal querer
No. 5: Snail Mail - Lush
No. 4: Robyn - Honey
No. 3: DJ Koze - Knock Knock
No. 2: Kacey Musgraves - Golden Hour
No. 1: Mitski - Be the Cowboy

ilxor, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link

TOO LOW... (all of these made my top 10, and I think Low should be top 2-3)

No. 43: Sleep - The Sciences
No. 40: Iceage - Beyondless
No. 21: The 1975 - A Brief Inquiry Into Online Relationships
No. 19: Cardi B - Invasion of Privacy
No. 18: SOPHIE - OIL OF EVERY PEARL’s UN-INSIDES
No. 8: Low - Double Negative

ilxor, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link

Also, I'm sorry... but how is Janelle Monáe not even in the top 50 here? That album is fantastic.

ilxor, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

not a big surprise, since they only gave it a 7.7

President Keyes, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link

I appreciate what she's doing but I don't really like it

taste is subjective

niels, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link

same

Evan, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

Dry year

flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link

im glad they made room for the Georgia Anne album, was overlooked by a lot of lists

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link

no Autechre in the top 50? really?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 04:30 (five years ago) link

Albums that got Best New Music, but didn't make the Pitchfork top 50:

Saba – CARE FOR ME (8.7)
Car Seat Headrest – Twin Fantasy (8.6)
Mount Eerie – Now Only (8.5)
Father John Misty – God's Favorite Customer (8.5)
Tim Hecker – Konoyo (8.5)
Jean Grae / Quelle Chris – Everything's Fine (8.4)
Joey Purp – Quarterthing (8.3)
Jeff Tweedy – Warm (8.3)

ilxor, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link

*almost inaudible voice* a shame, that father john misty record was actually good

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link

Jean Grae / Quelle Chris – Everything's Fine (8.4)

oh man i feel bad i forgot about this, such a great album...early year stuff sometimes suffers

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link

three Chicagoans on that list!

alpine static, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link

no CSH is a relief

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link

Albums that got Best New Music, but didn't make the Pitchfork top 50:

Saba – CARE FOR ME (8.7)
Car Seat Headrest – Twin Fantasy (8.6)
Mount Eerie – Now Only (8.5)
Father John Misty – God's Favorite Customer (8.5)
Tim Hecker – Konoyo (8.5)
Jean Grae / Quelle Chris – Everything's Fine (8.4)
Joey Purp – Quarterthing (8.3)
Jeff Tweedy – Warm (8.3)

― ilxor, Wednesday, December 12, 2018 11:10 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is pretty interesting. (joey purp got accused of abuse right before the list fwiw)

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link

lack of saba is inexplicable imo

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

this is pretty interesting. (joey purp got accused of abuse right before the list fwiw)

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, December 12, 2018 4:13 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark

also his album getting best new music made no sense in the first place

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link

Naw it’s a pretty good album that would have done a lot better in a year that wasn’t saturated with Credible Indie Rap

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link

i'm lukewarm on joey p, but the new alb was a big improvement on iiidrops, which got a lot of critical attention.

i've seen a few stray tweets about allegations against him, but haven't been able to find news articles yet. what's the deal?

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

hmm

I’LL ONLY SAY THIS ONCE CUZ I DONT WANT IT TO BE MISTAKEN AS ME BEING INSECURE OR ME SEEKING OUTSIDE VALIDATION IN ANYWAY... I KNOW WHAT I AM. BUT ANY YEAR END LIST (NOT JUST HIP HOP) ANY... THAT DOESNT HAVE CARE FOR ME IN IT IS DISRESPECTFUL 🤷🏾‍♀️

— SABA (@sabaPIVOT) December 12, 2018

austinb, Thursday, 13 December 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link

saw that late yesterday. did he play P4k fest?

Saba and Grae/Quelle seem like the only real weird omissions from that list. and i'm not surprised they skipped over Grae/Quelle ... but Saba is very surprising.

CSH is a remake of an old album
do we really need like the Xth-best albums from Eerie, FJM, Hecker on these lists
Current Long-Haired Wise Man Tweedy is very cool, but the album is just OK

alpine static, Thursday, 13 December 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link

I especially loved the Saba and Tim Hecker albums from that list of omissions.

ilxor, Friday, 14 December 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link

Jean Grae / Quelle Chris – Everything's Fine

Bandcamp's album of the year.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 14 December 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link

Solid choice, I love that one too!

ilxor, Friday, 14 December 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link

I caught Jean Grae opening for Talib Kweli and Mos Def back in the early to mid '00s, and I remember either Kweli dropped out of the show for some reason, so Jean Grae played a longer opening set and OH MY GOD SHE KILLED IT.

ilxor, Friday, 14 December 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link

either Kweli or Mos Def* dropped out...

ilxor, Friday, 14 December 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link

hell yeah Jean!

maffew12, Friday, 14 December 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link

"Watch Jeff Tweedy Rate Stuffed Crust Pizza, Men’s Jewelry, and High School Reunions"

skip, Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

The Avril Lavigne review today is really well written and thoughtful.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 16 December 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link

Yes, I thought that was good. They should do more of the Sunday retrospectives on bad albums.

jmm, Sunday, 16 December 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link

That is not a bad album, it’s a very good album; and even the reviewer seems to rate it more highly than the miserly 6.6 posted at the top.

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link

Fair enough, I haven't heard it. I guess I mean albums that aren't already critically regarded as classics.

jmm, Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

Honestly, this is why I sometimes think P-fork should just "stay in their lane"... they revisit a 16-yr-old album that was hugely popular, fit perfectly with the moment, introduced/established a significant artist, and has no bad or skippable songs over its 13 tracks... and they give it a 6.6 because... reasons?

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link

they want everyone to know that this album that everyone of a certain age knows about has many strong moments and is ok to listen to

but yes, i very much enjoyed reading it all the same

Karl Malone, Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link

Let Go is a 6.6 though

flopson, Sunday, 16 December 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

Let Go is a 6.6 though

flopson, Sunday, 16 December 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

it has one of the defining pop ballads of its era ("i'm with you") plus two singles that stodgy critics were singling out as being Actually Pretty Good For An Inherently Silly Manufactured Pop Tune even then. perhaps every other song on the album is mediocre but i wouldn't know as i've not heard it in full.

dyl, Sunday, 16 December 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

first four or five tracks are all time bangers but it drops off pretty quick

flopson, Sunday, 16 December 2018 23:03 (five years ago) link

Not to 6.6 level. 6.6 is a mediocre album

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Sunday, 16 December 2018 23:28 (five years ago) link

why am I arguing about this, lol

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Sunday, 16 December 2018 23:28 (five years ago) link

Anyway, some of the best songs are later — like “Things I’ll Never Say”

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Sunday, 16 December 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link

could you guys make it any more obvious?

maffew12, Monday, 17 December 2018 00:29 (five years ago) link

I’m convinced this record wouldn’t be half as loved if Avril had lived longer

flappy bird, Monday, 17 December 2018 00:42 (five years ago) link

Do you mean, like, if Avril's career had lived longer...?
Or is ilx now the nexus of some Berenstein Universe-type phenomenon where all of us are denizens of different timelines with different pop histories and celebrity deaths?

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Monday, 17 December 2018 01:38 (five years ago) link

"all time bangers"

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 17 December 2018 02:40 (five years ago) link

ic otm, tbh

https://twitter.com/en_cohen/status/1074443467886014464

alpine static, Monday, 17 December 2018 07:01 (five years ago) link

^Tweets are protected

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Monday, 17 December 2018 07:16 (five years ago) link

sorry, he posted: "If there's any 2002 album named "Let Go" that Pitchfork needs to reconsider..." with a screenshot of the 3.8 they gave Nada Surf's Let Go

alpine static, Monday, 17 December 2018 07:43 (five years ago) link


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