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all the lil rappers are bad

Οὖτις, Monday, 10 December 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

(taking this back to real controversial content)

Οὖτις, Monday, 10 December 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

who was the first lil rapper anyway, lil bow wow?

Οὖτις, Monday, 10 December 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

kim!?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

Lil Kim that is

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

idk Lil Bow Wow is '93 or so, isn't that before her?

Οὖτις, Monday, 10 December 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

wiki says his first album was 2000 and he was 13
unless he recorded before that?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link

Besides, he shed the 'lil' a couple of years later.

pomenitul, Monday, 10 December 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

lil kim released hard core in 1996, when bow wow was...9
so i think she was first of the two but maybe there was another lil before kim that i am forgetting/not aware of

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link

There was also Lil' Keke. But I agree with LL, I think Lil Kim was the first.

pomenitul, Monday, 10 December 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

Lil' Rodney Cee from the Funky 4 + 1

Number None, Monday, 10 December 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

Hmm maybe Bow Wow Wow was the reason for confusion! Ha

Evan, Monday, 10 December 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link

i knew there would be one before her i just am not familiar with who that is
thank you ilm

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 10 December 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link

from lil bow wow's wiki

In 1993, he performed at a concert in Los Angeles, and was noticed by rapper Snoop Dogg, who subsequently gave him a stage name, "Lil' Bow Wow".[4]

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 10 December 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link

The best album Mick Jones made was B.A.D’s ‘Megatop Phoenix’.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 10 December 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link

Lil' Rodney Cee from the Funky 4 + 1

oh shit that's right! good lookin out

Οὖτις, Monday, 10 December 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

hs is great so may have to retract my controversial music opinion

TS: Big Rappers vs. Lil Rappers

Οὖτις, Monday, 10 December 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link

Soft Machine wasn't truly great until Robert Wyatt left the band

Gong wasn't truly great until Daevid Allen left the band

(I am OK with the idea that these are a coincidences, as I enjoy both Wyatt and Allen quite a bit. But I much prefer the albums without them)

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 10 December 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

There is something pitiable and maybe even tragic about people in their forties and fifties who are still obsessed with the Misfits and the Ramones

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 10 December 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link

or shellac and autechre

massaman gai (front tea for two), Monday, 10 December 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link

Eh, people are attracted to different things. People could conceivably like the music even if the lyrics don't have significance for them in their forties and fifties.

timellison, Monday, 10 December 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link

I consider everyone on ilx pitiable and tragic

ogmor, Monday, 10 December 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

is that really a musical opinion

Οὖτις, Monday, 10 December 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link

or a controversial one?

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 December 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link

that too

Οὖτις, Monday, 10 December 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link

The best album Mick Jones made was B.A.D’s ‘Megatop Phoenix’.

it's top 3 for sure

sans lep (sic), Monday, 10 December 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

nothing per se bad abt being pitiable and/or tragic

massaman gai (front tea for two), Monday, 10 December 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link

or vain, erudite and stupid

Ward Fowler, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link

I always wondered about that title. Does each word describe a specific band member? Bruce is definitely "erudite"

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

similar question (as long as I'm derailing): was "experimental, jet set, trash and no star" meant to describe the individual members of Sonic Youth? If so, I'd guess Lee, Kim, Thurston, Steve, respectively

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link

p sure Thurston confirmed that explicitly in an interview (at least, that's my memory)

Οὖτις, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link

can't tell if you guys are joking but there's no comma after "experimental" and experimental jet set is a play on words

Josefa, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

idgi

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

"Not surprisingly, the title had no single explanation. It was either a play on their alter egos - Ranaldo, Gordon, Moore, and Shelly, respectively - or, as Moore told writer Alec Foege, it was inspired by the time Yoshimi P-We, the drummer of... the Boredoms, was in the company of Moore and Gordon and was approached by autograph-seeking kids. "No - no star!" she said, in broken English."

- David Browne, Goodbye 20th Century: A Biography of Sonic Youth, pp. 267-268

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link

I'm still waiting to learn how "experimental jet set" is a play on words

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link

That’s a great Yoshimi story

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link

I think maybe there was a joke that SY had become the 'experimental jet set' after signing to DGC? I don't see a play on words either.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link

I guess because it's a combination of "experimental jet" and "jet set"?

jmm, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

^ that, yeah

Josefa, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link

The Kinks 1964-1971 > The Beatles

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 15 December 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link

agree

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 15 December 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link

Ramsey Lewis's 1970s albums are AT LEAST as good as Herbie Hancock's work from the same era, and in the latter half of the decade, they're better.
I'm a huge Herbie fan, but I would argue the same for George Duke. I mean, the Mwandishi records are still better than anything Duke did, but overall the quality of his output in the 70s is just outstanding, and he was better at integrating funk and especially disco into his music than Herbie ever was.

Tuomas, Sunday, 23 December 2018 09:56 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I dove deep into Duke’s MPS catalog a couple of years ago; great stuff, sadly overlooked now.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 23 December 2018 10:18 (five years ago) link

he's great in Zappa's band too

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 24 December 2018 03:05 (five years ago) link

Bad Bunny album is boring af

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 24 December 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link

Maybe you were expecting J Balvin

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 11:21 (five years ago) link

Post a controversial music opinion: thoughtless music is worse than bad music.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

The Kinks 1964-1971 > The Beatles

― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, December 15, 2018 5:47 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i def agree with this

💫 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link

Tracks >>>>>>> Playlists > Albums

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link

food >>>>> meals

brimstead, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link


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