SUPER SMASH BROS. ULTIMATE (ง’̀-‘́)ง thread of fighting

brb gonna get a switch

i watched ZeRo playing link in competitive matches last night and he was doing insane harlem globetrotters shit with the remote bombs

joinnnnn ussssssss xp

almost all the chars are fun in this one, even the ones i used to hate or ignore in melee/brawl

t-minus five or so hours until I am home and can play my kids!

t-minus five or so hours until I am home and can play my kids!

CRUSH THEM

Smash Bros has always been waaaay more button mashy than Street Fighter btw, so be warned if that's a concern. xp

― circa1916, Monday, December 10, 2018 10:25 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's nothing about SSB that makes this it inherently more of a button-masher. just like any other fighting game you can get away with playing like that against other people that are at that level, but there is a straightforward logic to how each character's set of moves suggests different combos and once you start figuring that out you'll be able to beat people that button mash.

the beautiful thing about SSB that makes it feel more elegant than most other fighters imo is that there is no memorization of commands involved at all, you don't input a string of button presses that then lock the character into an ability. every character responds to the same commands in ways that are fairly predictable, so once you have a feel for how to use each directional basic, special, smash, and air attack on one character you can then translate that into a rough approximation of how to use any other character (not very well, necessarily, but at least beyond button-mashing.) and the other great thing about the simple command system (of directional + A or B,) is that it allows players to quickly string together these abilities in infinitely complex ways, which involves developing an intuitive sense of how the abilities interact with the physics of the game, how far and in which direction an ability moves the enemy and how long it renders them unable to move so you can follow up the previous attack and stay on the offensive. getting a feel for that is really where the depth comes from, with characters flying further after they've taken more damage, and at different rates for different character weights.

yeah, that's v otm

smash bros is unlike street fighter, it created its own separate trunk of the fighting game tree at the very base

so much so that boring people argue to this day about whether it's a "real" fighting game

Smashed brothers are all alike; each unsmashed brother is unsmashed in its own way.

— RYAN RULZ OK (@ryanqnorth) December 10, 2018

Whenever you feel like smashing any brother, he told me, just remember that all the people in this world haven’t smashed the brothers you’ve smashed.

— matt weinberger is not going to CES (@gamoid) December 10, 2018

incineroar is potent, if hilariously slow. His classic mode is a breeze.

some of these world of light challenges seem to be saying "you don't have the right spirits yet" because they feel impossible.

*spirits or skills, I suppose. Some of the items in that tree are absurd.

yeah look at the power level of the fight in the top right, the 3 star ones are usually around 9000 which is way higher than you early on. you gotta level up/collect better spirits to make them more manageable

this feels a bit like that subzero game MK tried but without the amazing cutscenes

need qui gon jinn in the fighters pass

i love it when i transcend sport

whoops wrong thread heh

I wish I could print out that awesome fan-made manual, but 45 color against background blocks of black pages seems like trouble.

That’s what the office printer is for!

Otm

Link above not in a printable format.

https://mega.nz/#!mzAH2CIb!YOFy3hQzP_0hC03NT54ID8g1Obw_hSrK9%20DbFAlMTY0c

(lol mega)

Thanks!

how are you all feeling about the online play? like, just the quality of the match, lag?

i haven't played smash since n64, but i'm wary because after reading bennett foddy's thoughts on lag:

https://www.polygon.com/2014/3/11/5491146/why-you-dont-want-an-online-mode-towerfall

It’s laggy and kind of all over the place. Nintendo didn’t do a network test for this so it’s likely improvements will come. I haven’t gotten/tried an Ethernet adapter yet, but I might. I haven’t played much online but maybe I’ll make an ilxor arena sometime over the weekend and post about it but I’d want someone to commit in advance to hang out there w me because it’s no fun just sitting there waiting for someone to join a lobby

it's like any other fighting game in that it's as good as the worst internet connection in the game. the only difference here is that it's on a system that most people use on wifi so the average connection quality is worse, and you may be playing with 4 players instead of 2

OK, first family match done! I won, a lot, but not all the time, surely due to playing with the stupid joycon vs. my favored Pro, but also not really knowing what anything does. Tons of fun, of course.

should i get this game

have u played a smash before

do u have “ friends “

yeah if you like Super Smash Bros., this is the best version on Nintendo's best console, and you should get it. If you have friends, this is not the most accessible thing to do with your friends on Switch (that's Mario Kart), but it's more accessible than a "real" fighting game.

i have never played a smash before

literally just got mario kart yesterday to have something to play with my best friend's kids on xmas

I don't know how to sell Smash to someone who's never played it before. I'd say it's sui generis but some stripped down imitators have been developed in recent years, some of them well-regarded, so it's more accurate to say it's genre-defining. It's both a deep competitive game and a goofy party game with lots of explosions and chaos and getting to play Bowser vs. Pikachu vs. Princess Zelda vs. the dog from Duck Hunt.

Watching my kids get their butts kicked online right now.

do you like video games
do you like nintendo
then yes
expect a trifle, be pleasantly surprised if you get really into it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvIIK6qJahg

Piranha Plorbs

haaaaaaaa!

3.0 update tomorrow with persona dlc and stage builder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmuTGcbu4Kc

the persona stage changing colors accordingly for persona 3/4/5 music is dope

also if you play smash with me from now until the end of time i will be picking Reach Out To The Truth as the music every game sorry in advance

I predict stage builder will amuse me for about eight minutes, wonder if the competitive scene will invent any sick new configurations of three platforms.

Edge-guarding is a sign of moral decay and anyone who does it should be shunned.

Careful you don’t want to end up on scrub quotes

if you push someone to the corner in street fighter, do you stop and let them walk back to the middle of the stage?

If you are a gentleman, yes.

We recently got a pretty big TV, but part of the fun of Smash is that when more than two of us are playing we typically have no idea what the fuck is going on. There's the three+ of us bouncing around, all the other creatures/action, the moving arenas ... it's just chaos!

Yes!
https://www.polygon.com/e3/2019/6/11/18661233/banjo-kazooie-smash-bros-ultimate-trailer-nintendo-direct-e3-2019

and the unnamed dragon quest protag before that, with separate costumes for 3,4,8,11