the genre known as dubstep - search and destroy

it's called sidechain and its daft punk's bread and butter

kinda cool to hear the technique used in other genres

Yeah, the reason I think some of it is peak controller is because, from what I understand, it's not a real sidechain. You can use it to trigger any effect, and - I'm not sure if this is the case with sidechain - you don't have to heard the track that's triggering it. I also gather from reading too much dubstepforum that tons of these dudes use FL.

quick! i've just download dubstep allstars volumes 1 through 6, which do i search and what do i destroy?

downloaded

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=92378

^^^would crash

I've been messing about with Reason to make dubstep tracks recently, and sidechaining is essential, but I'm interested to find out if peak controlling is possible in this program too?

Really really love the Cooly G Hyperdub 12" and the King Midas Sound EP. I guess neither are technically dubstep though (so much for policing the scene!)

okay, i don't listen to this stuff, but i got this new album by CLOAKS in the mail and they are supposed to be dubstep and if other dubstep stuff sounds like this then count me in!

Listening to the audio samples on their myspace they are a bit more breakcore than most dubstep. You might really like aXXo though. They are similarly heavy.

no idea who cloaks are but was listening to beezy i think on rinse on wed night and it was seriously doing it for me.

that cooly g ep is one of my favourite things of the year. i love her. seeing her dj in a week @ tactile, can't wait

Lex have you heard the Dub Organizer stuff she's done?

i've got dub organizer vol 1 - 'dis boy pt 4' is so beautiful. "he says he wants to run away..."

Are they just CD EPs then?

i think there's just one, and mine is on cd - it's not even on discogs :/

(is yr clobbersaurus email up to date?)

Yup.

There are three listed on the BM-Soho shop. 4 songs a piece.

Someone should do a cheesy wobbled-up remix of Live to Tell by Madonna. That would be wicked.

This mix that Untld did for FACT is really doing it for me at the moment

Untold

joker's set from sonar http://bit.ly/eEKXp

Wow, thanks for that, tricky.

Also, nobody's mentioned Tectonic Plates Vol. 2 yet? It's probably the most comprehensive and cohesive dubstep label statement since the early Dubstep Allstars, IMO...

been obsessed with this lately, as effectively used in Joker's Sonar set:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYCzZCmPypk

for reasons im not sure i still really like totally generic dubstep like what youngsta was playing on rinse last night.

So does anyone know of that track I requested an ID (Appleblim's Mutek set closer) a kind of beepy synth, arpeggiated, and vocals involving "rising sun". Any insight would be much appreciated.

enjoying the self titled Clubroot release .

Caspa did the essential mix this week
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/essentialmix/

v unfashionable to say i know but im not very into that joy orbison track. maybe its just over myspace but it just sounds a bit thin. and a bit TOO well produced. polite almost.

I think it's nice but not revelatory. If I want that kind of thing I'll listen to "Serious Thugs" or the funky tunes that go for the same vibe. Not that I know their names, only their female vocal samples, being:

- "IT'S the new sound!"
- "KEEP'S HAPPENING!"
- "ey-EY-ey!"
- "... AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU!"

Oh, and Pearson Sound's "Wad" of course, which is at least nominally quasi-dubstep. Apparently Pearson Sound actually is Ramadanman, which doesn't surprise...

these should prob go in the "wonky" thread but this one's here and i still don't want to dignify the term "wonky"…but they're absolutely beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww0K7XW8WJY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bIR_YmiuVw

Those are great. I like "wonky" that basically sounds like primo grime instrumentals.

have you heard much else by guido and joker, tim?

those are wonky ;)

newish blackdown post that has the internet going macadamias:
http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2009/07/where-do-u-call-it.html

lol@this guy in the comments box:
"Blood how can you say mainstream dubstep has lost it when Snoop Dogg is all over it?"

blood, thats exactly how.

anyway, i get what mr clark is saying, but i dont really need to ever hear about 'ldn', feminine pressure, the zone of pointless intensification (is that the one?) or any of those things ever again. the sooner bloggers get rid of those phrases the better, no offence. (also see: references to 'wot do u call it'). but then i dont *totally* hate (well not all of it) the stuff i suspect he says is metal step (or maybe i do, not sure - i quite liked spongebob). im not totally sure how you can write off dubstep but not write off grime either, although i can see why a hard to the core dubstepper might. its easier to discard it completely when you love/believe in something so much rather than have an endlessly frustrating relationship to it.

Lex, I know most of Joker's "big" tunes ("Gullybrook Lane", "Play Doe", the Kapsize EP, "Holly Brook Park" etc) and really like almost all of them; from Guido I only know the Orchestral Lab 12 inch, which is only alright.

I also love Jack Sparrow's "For Me" in this general vein.

"only alright"? the 'orchestral lab' 12" is astoundingly gorgeous, really beautiful.

'digidesign' is the most essential joker track you didn't mention...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzHOdfSHZgs

To be fair I haven't given the Guido enough of a chance, I think a lot of this stuff just makes me want to listen to old Low Deep tracks and other similar grime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCI6EObCXuk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PpCwdyer2Y

I think the straightforwardness of the rhythms on the Guido 12 inch made me a bit inclined to underrate it a bit - obv the melodies are very pretty and, um, orchestral. But this stuff usually needs good and interesting rhythm programming to keep me coming back.

Tim, yo should def. give the Orch Lab 12" B side, Way You Make Me Feel, another chance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZTcfMCsNu4

without getting super heady about why, I love Hyphy Mngo off the bat

good debate on that post i mentioned earlier -
http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=96096&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20&sid=489c836b9783dd0dd56be07f089346cc

I heard a great mix by Ben UFO while following links from that Blackdown post, which ended with the Hyphy Mngo song, and I left the mix at work. Anyone know which one I'm talking about and have a link by any chance?

ah nm I found it - was in the pitchfork article. http://sonicrouter.blogspot.com/2009/05/interview-ben-ufo.html is where it's at.

oh god, the sweat/dante sounds sooooooooooooooooooo good listening to it proper on vinyl.

Also, once again: Boxcutter, this guy kills me.

i dont get the point of all these new tunes reworking old 2 step rhythms. that brackles one (lhc?) is quite interesting melody-wise for instance but i wish they came up with something a bit fresher on the rhythmic front. it feels too soon (and obv i know 2 steppy revival beats arent new) to be reviving that already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6NHi0ios4I

crackstep

Mount Kimbie have a new EP out called "Sketch on Glass." On first listen it seems like a definite step-up from "Maybes", which i loved

^ I'll have to check that out....I love 'Maybes"

eve on a benga beat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zShHmBOyr9U&feature=player_embedded

not great but adequate enough, not horrible i guess.

yeah i was surprised by that. be interesting to see if it takes off in the states. dunno why US rappers seem more into dubstep than grime beats though.

no silkie discussion?? it's certainly the best dubstep album that i can think of, i'd worn out his train wreck mix pretty well in the ages it took the album to be released but ive listened to it once a day since buying it last week and the first third of the album in particular is SO good. love all the little details, i swoon at the little 'ha- ha- haahh' three minutes into concrete jungle every time

shame about the bad vinyl pressing!