POLLercoaster Ride - ILM Artist Poll #94 - Belle and Sebastian - Discussion/Campaigning Thread

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I originally said the end of 10th December (in Alaska (?) or wherever GMT-12 timezone is), which is itself well over 48 hours away. But if people are still tinkering towards the middle of the week I've promised to wait till they're done. Bigger ballot pool > punctuality.

Calculating the final results will take only a few seconds after that, but I probably need a day or two to cater for the tracks at the start of the countdown, which are currently, er, oscillating wildly with every new ballot. (The whole list is in flux really: almost nothing is more than a few points clear of its rivals. Later contributors can still make a big difference.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 8 December 2018 23:36 (five years ago) link

My ballot will be in on the 10th. I meant to spend this time listening to the material I was less familiar with but, finally catching up with DCW aside, I've mostly gotten hung up on listening to the I already knew and loved but hadn't heard in a long time.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Saturday, 8 December 2018 23:41 (five years ago) link

"almost nothing is more than a few points clear of its rivals"

because there are so many outstanding ones. it's really hard to choose between them

Dan S, Saturday, 8 December 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link

sent! could go on revising forever though

devvvine, Sunday, 9 December 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link

I'm tempted to draw up an alternative top 30. I bet it's nearly as good.

Alba, Sunday, 9 December 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

I feel like a good (possibly the best) ballot would just be everything from the first two albums and first three EPs, in by order. Minus a track.

sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Sunday, 9 December 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

Voted. No spoilers, but my number one is a track from the past 3 years.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 9 December 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link

also voted

Dan S, Sunday, 9 December 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link

voted

bunny slopes, Sunday, 9 December 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link

Ooooh, just noticed these (and more, possibly) juicy new ballots in my mailbox. This is feeling like a pretty strong turnout overall. Fab.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 9 December 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link

Ballot sent

that's not my post, Monday, 10 December 2018 00:32 (five years ago) link

I meant to spend this time listening to the material I was less familiar with but, finally catching up with DCW aside, I've mostly gotten hung up on listening to the I already knew and loved but hadn't heard in a long time.

Same

that's not my post, Monday, 10 December 2018 00:33 (five years ago) link

Voted

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Monday, 10 December 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link

Big shake-up in my spreadsheet recent votes. A few tracks have shot up 20-or-so places and the top ten has thoroughly jiggled itself about. Fascinating.

That's 36 votes now, and 128 tracks selected.

I've taken a liking to crytosicko's "We're not terrific, but we're com-POLL-tent" as a rollout thread title. Further puntastic suggestions are encouraged.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 10 December 2018 03:12 (five years ago) link

'AFTER recent votes", geez.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 10 December 2018 03:12 (five years ago) link

When is the official deadline?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 10 December 2018 03:46 (five years ago) link

I've promised to wait until at least Tuesday. So...within the next 48 hours or so would be good.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 10 December 2018 04:09 (five years ago) link

nice,

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 10 December 2018 04:10 (five years ago) link

I know POLL puns are de rigueur for rollout thread titles but "Could we please be objective?" would be highly appropriate

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 10 December 2018 04:38 (five years ago) link

Yes, I like it!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 10 December 2018 05:21 (five years ago) link

If I could do just one near perfect poll I'd be happy

Vinnie, Monday, 10 December 2018 05:22 (five years ago) link

get me away from here, i'm POLL-ing

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 December 2018 06:00 (five years ago) link

Could we please be objective cause the other POLLS are queuing up behind us.

Alba, Monday, 10 December 2018 06:39 (five years ago) link

lol

Dan S, Monday, 10 December 2018 07:04 (five years ago) link

that's perfect lmao

ufo, Monday, 10 December 2018 07:04 (five years ago) link

I really like Stevie but so far the poll I'm working on doesn't seem to reflect it. I think my top for him is "Jonathan David" at #12.

naus, Monday, 10 December 2018 09:39 (five years ago) link

This is the most excited I've been for a poll roll-out in a long while. I wouldn't bet on any more than like 5 songs being definitely making the top 30.

avoid drinking on an empty liver (fionnland), Monday, 10 December 2018 10:01 (five years ago) link

XP: I'm in similar situation re Stevie.

Actually, if "Jonathan David" doesn't end up placing in the top 30-40-50-whatever, I may have to start the countdown from wherever it ends up. I'll *make* it 'place', dammit! LOL. It's interesting how divisive that song (and Stevie himself?) seems to be; always imagined its brilliance was self-evident.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 10 December 2018 10:06 (five years ago) link

I think the problem with Stevie is that he fancies himself a folky 70s singer-songwriter guy, which I'll have none of. But when he's there as a counterpoint to Stuart, he's completely on it and I can't love it enough.

naus, Monday, 10 December 2018 10:32 (five years ago) link

'to be myself completely' is peak stevie imo

devvvine, Monday, 10 December 2018 11:35 (five years ago) link

Could we please be objective cause the other POLLS are queuing up behind us.

― Alba, Monday, December 10, 2018 12:39 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a thousand times this

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 10 December 2018 13:26 (five years ago) link

I did not like "Jonathan David" until around the 37th listen. I was DJ'ing when it came out, and upon playing it without previewing, my first reaction of "what is this mess?" The logic of its 37 sections makes perfect sense now. At first it felt like a trailer for Forever Changes.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Monday, 10 December 2018 13:33 (five years ago) link

"Jonathan David" in the top 10 for me

bunny slopes, Monday, 10 December 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

'to be myself completely' is peak stevie imo

yup, the only stevie track that made my ballot

J. Sam, Monday, 10 December 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link

I just sent a revised ballot if you dinnae plug in my first ballot from 2.5 hours earlier

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_ .)/ (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 10 December 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

In 2001/2002 I found a bunch of rare B&S (or pre-B&S) on audiogalaxy. I remember a cool cover of a Spanish song with a title something like mina ména (obviously way off). I also remember a cool 6-7 minute instrumental number.

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_ .)/ (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 10 December 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

one night extension here as well, just got in from work travel.

campreverb, Monday, 10 December 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link

Are you sure it was them? I seem to remember there was a lot of mislabeled stuff on Audiogalaxy.

xpost

Alba, Monday, 10 December 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link

mina ména (obviously way of

Was it this Os Mutantes cover?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGfT3qg6p_Y

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 December 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link

yes

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_ .)/ (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 10 December 2018 20:58 (five years ago) link

Looks like a consensus is emerging re thread title. Nice!

FlopsyDuck: I was asleep when your emails arrived, but revisions are easy either way. Actually, I'm still happy to adjust week-old ballots if others want it.

campreverb: rightio!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link

Amusing that I initially said that "I thought there was mainly antipathy [to B&S] on ILX, but it seems that's not necessarily the case." With a few ballots still promised we might even approach...50.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

Way before my time on ILX but I understand that there were a sizeable group of ex-Sinister people on here, enthusiasm on one side led to a backlash from others, an unspoken truce was declared where nobody talked much about b+s because it was still contentious and anyway people had moved on, and then after another decade and a half here we are

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 10 December 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

This is... much harder than initially thought. About 80% done, already pushing 40 tracks.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 10 December 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link

Ok, nearly done but almost forgot that I know one of the people in their songs (friend of SM's wife). Here he is dragging her out to dance on her eponymous song around 3:20:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XIWLMgXJBY

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 10 December 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link

Better angle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vazADLsUSiQ

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 10 December 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link

mad how much i love that song but still couldn't fit into a top thirty, what a catalogue!

devvvine, Monday, 10 December 2018 23:22 (five years ago) link

Ballot submitted!!! I didn’t think I had it in me.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 01:35 (five years ago) link

Awesome! But was that emailed? I don't seem to have received anything half an hour later...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 02:06 (five years ago) link

got it...just need to clean up for the poll runner.
cutting to 30 was brutal. surprisingly found I like the weird stuff like a century of elvis/beyond the sunrise.

campreverb, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 03:00 (five years ago) link


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