Shall we maybe anticipate David Gordon Green and Danny McBride's HALLOWEEN sequel/reboot?

For example, instead of the stupid stuff with the British podcasters, they could have had a hearing about what to do with him, about his pure evilness, about all the shit he has been up to and why he needs be locked away somewhere else (why they waited until now to transfer him after all those years is just another contrivance in this film). It's more of the lampshading, but even Laurie Strode tells those dummies "there's nothing to learn, there is no mystery" or something like that. If there's nothing to learn and there's no mystery then there's no reason for this film to exist except as a retread of the original, which makes it just another gormless sequel. Which might have been fine, because there is deeper stuff in this film, whether smart (the virtually unexplored except in broad terms relationship between Laurie and her daughter, let alone victim and victimizer and revenge generally) or utterly stupid (the twist), which is why I'm disappointed the otherwise capable filmmakers involved didn't find a way to pursue something more compelling/original/interesting with those ideas, like they were hamstrung by the need to make their unstoppable killer kill people. (Body count in this one, btw, was apparently 16! Five in the first one, not including his older sister when he was a kid.)

Hold up, does the major character boyfriend in this just vanish? I'm surprised they didn't find a way to kill him, too.

The trauma stuff is tantalizing, but the script doesn't trust the audience to find the subtext, so we get a lot expository dialogue, including a literal "Time's Up." Greene is emphatically not a director of suspense: the film isn't scary or well-paced, and for all of the callbacks to the original, Greene has forgotten (or doesn't care) that the original gained its power through atmosphere, editing, and scoring rather than gore. Basically, another shitty Halloween sequel.

Wow, I was looking up Green's CV, and 1) I just realized I haven't seen any of his films between Pineapple Express and this one and 2) between the 7 films he's made between then and Halloween, I don't even recognize the titles of four of them. Stronger? Prince Avalanche? Joe? Manglehorn? Some big actors in these, but I don't even remember their release.

Liked Prince Avalanche for what it was: two guys working a highway project in the middle of nowhere, talking, talking, talking. Paul Rudd, Emile Hirsch, recommended if you're a fan of theirs, or low-key films of guys working towards adulthood and responsibility.

Watching Halloween II (original).

I love how Ben Treamor gets flambeed and then they just leave him there still on fire and drive off

What's up with comedians/comic actors making horror movies?

Danny McBride
Jordan Peele
Chris Rock

I actually wish Myers hadn't worn that shitty mask in Halloween 4, a bandaged Michael killing people woulda ruled. as did his first three murders.

I will admit to not loving 4 but outside of the first three, 2018, and maybe H20, it's one of the few i'll watch.

they ruined the ending by revealing that Jamie didn't actually kill her foster mother at the end of 4 though. it's like what if in the original Halloween, Michael had only punctured his sister's lung

also what the fuck problem does he have with mom and pop restaurants and auto body stores is Michael anti-small business? is this what drives him? is he trying to make his stock go up a few points?

then he destroys Loomis's car. someone was making payments on that still!

every time I watch an 80s slasher I'm convinced that only 4 facial shapes existed in the 80s

also did Michael actually stop in a Halloween store to get his new mask

did he pay for it or did he just kill the owners like usual

lol i forgot they show him grabbing it. duh.

the image Jamie has of young Michael in his mask is actually very good

halloween 4 is dope especially when they cut the power, it’s not og halloween but what is. i prefer it to 2

something is unsettling about seeing houses in 80s slasher films. houses were so boring back then.

just realizing that if somehow Laurie dies in Halloween Kills or Halloween Ends, this will be the third fucking time she died in the series.

the reversal of jamie as killer in 5 is the worst thing about it, though 5 is also kind of like watching the mounting psychic damage of attempting to write and shoot a fifth halloween sequel, so i let it get away with a lot

i think the h20 continuity presses on the ambiguity of laurie having “died” in 4, as she basically assumed a completely different life

her only true death is in resurrection and it’s the worst 10 minutes of the entire franchise

let me have this third death plz

I have a weird fascination with horror franchsies, like, good or bad, if your series goes like 7 or 8 movies, I'll have an interest in watching them all.

except Saw. fuck Saw.

actually, i stand corrected, as laurie technically dies at the end of the director’s cut of rob zombie’s halloween 2

which i remembered but rob zombie’s halloween movies belong to like an alternate dimension version of this franchise and i have trouble associating them

holy fuck, she's like Groundkeeper Willie on that Treehouse of Horrors

Cops Do It By the Book

always amazed how people in movies can fucking HEAR news reports in a crowded bar.

Sometimes they tell everyone to shush and ask the bartender to turn it up, and everyone respectfully quiets down so they can focus on what's happening.

I only saw the first Saw but I was extremely shocked by how much I liked it

not enough to watch the sequels, mind you

first saw is a good movie. i haven’t watched any of the sequels either lol

First one has bad acting but a great twist and fresh premise. Sequels veer hard into torture porn and a pointlessly tangled mythology. Well, not pointless. The point is to prolong the franchise.

First Saw is good.

Second one is decent but eyerolly

Third one is hilarious

Not in a good way, mind

I've lost track of the number of stories and reviews that have cited the bodycount and brutality of this installment as a series high, but I find it really hard to believe this one is more "brutal" than the Zombie one(s).

some reviews make this movie sound like it's "what if Funny Games was a Halloween movie" which um, no thank you

It's very brutal but not like.... anything that will shock genre aficionados

Reviews on this are generally scathing

I just don't get it. I skimmed a couple of reviews and ... sigh. All they have to do is make it scary and not stupid and it will work. Like, the Freddy movies, after the first one or maybe two, they're just FX camp, so the focus is on that. Jason, they're just dumb and mechanical, so the focus is on that. The first Halloween perfected the moody, slow and steady wins the race template, which is what made it an iconic masterpiece. Who needs more bullshit larded on? This one sounds like its predecessor, with a bunch of half-assed psychology and pointlessly convoluted plot gymnastics. But when the fulcrum of your franchise is an unstoppable, unkillable, faceless murder-machine that doesn't even speak, that ultimate blank canvas shouldn't be license to fill every corner with bullshit. Michael Myers is enough! The first Halloween was like Jaws. The sequels have pretty much all been Jaws 4. "Oh shit, the shark has followed me down to the Caribbean from New England because it has a mythical vendetta against me and my family!" Or whatever. That doesn't make the shark scarier, that makes the movie silly.

Like the twist from the last one? That was such a groaner just to get to a point where for sure these clever filmmakers could have found some other way to get. How hard can it be to just make a scary movie about a scary man doing scary things?

BTW, how many times now has Anthony Michael Hall been brought in as a beefed up bully? "Edward Scissorhands," "Community," "Hysteria - The Def Leppard Story" ...

Fwiw I enjoyed it. It's messy and has a meandering attempt at social commentary that is pathetically on the nose and pointless, and it lasts 15 minutes. Some of the editing is also weird.

But it's also hella scuzzy like Halloween II (1981), which endeared it to me a bit. And lots of cool home invasions and practical gore.

As far as a Halloween sequel goes, I'll take it. It definitely feels like the second in a trilogy though.

Also the "personal vendetta" thing is kind of hacked apart in this one, Last Jedi style

Michael is a hologram force projection?

I forgot this was also on Peacock, which it looks like we have, so I started giving it a shot, and ... I don't know, the early scene with the firemen? That's some ridiculous shit, which indicates this movie could really go either way.

Some of the editing is also weird.

hated this about the previous one

I'm at the next set piece. Michael is definitely more Jason in this.

josh save it for a long spoiler tagged post when you’re done please and thank you

no prob! thank you for stopping me, because otherwise I might have just kept going.

he is a little more Jason, though he hasn't really done the 'quiet stalking, heavy breathing, strangling' thing since the OG. he 'peek a boos' a little, and gets bored and then just kills u and moves to next house.

(or at least that's what he did in Halloween II before he went to the hospital. fitting they called it Memorial Hospital ("remember when this was a hospital, and there were doctors and stuff?")

Spoilers, I guess.

I couldn't do it. I made it to the 40 minute mark. It was all so dull and poorly paced. I fast-forwarded a bit and it looked like it kept shifting from boring to stupid and back again. It was bad enough when he single-handedly took out the entire squad of firefighters. But then when he takes out the entire armed posse? Yeah, this is some lazy bullshit from people that should know better.

Cureently watching this and finding it awesome. Ok, just got to to the scene that people are presumably complaining about and yes, ugh, but I don't find it too prurient

it eventually leaves and then back to the butchery