The Ballad of Buster Scruggs - Coen Brothers Netflix series turned portmanteau movie

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I don't think these were "nothingy" at all. Felt maybe similarly during watching like "just ending with that huh" and then you're right on to the next one, but they sit well in memory and have more meat on their bones than might be immediately apparent.

circa1916, Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link

That guy sure looked like a leprechaun to me

Οὖτις, Saturday, 8 December 2018 18:30 (five years ago) link

1. Leprechauns are little men. It's kind of their defining characteristic
2. Leprechauns do not wield guns
3. Leprechauns are creatures of Irish myth. Why would you put one in a film dealing with classic Western tropes?

Number None, Saturday, 8 December 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

Gold

Οὖτις, Saturday, 8 December 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

That guy sure looked like a leprechaun to me

THANK YOU

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 8 December 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

Yeah I'm down with the leprechaun notion.

WmC, Saturday, 8 December 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I can't tell who's serious anymore but I'm with VG and Number None on this one.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Saturday, 8 December 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link

Loved Conrad Hilton’s tedious speechifying in the final segment

Οὖτις, Sunday, 9 December 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

It's too long ago to remember it exactly but there's a pause in his speech and then someone asks him a question and the looks on everyone's faces really got me.

ryan, Sunday, 9 December 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link

Loved Conrad Hilton’s tedious speechifying in the final segment

I was too distracted/delighted by the presence of Saul Rubinek to notice that this was that guy!

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 9 December 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

he was great

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 9 December 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

The more i think about this overall, the more I like it

Οὖτις, Sunday, 9 December 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

I like the final segment a lot. It's funny and it's nice to have one that's all dialogue, since the others are filled with characters who either don't talk much or are having one-sided conversations.

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 9 December 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link

this was a lot better than i had expected. still somewhat half-assed in execution and obviously "a minor work" as you'd expect for a netflix orig, but imo the episodic structure is a good venue for that. the violence was fun

flopson, Monday, 10 December 2018 03:00 (five years ago) link

I just read the Jack London story that the Tom Waits segment is based on. Nothing about a leprechaun in there (although we can't dismiss the possibility of the Coens taking some artistic license)

Number None, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

each segment should've ended in a freeze frame that morphs into a comic book page. then the crypt keeper comes on and makes some wacky macabre pun about the ordeal.

andrew m., Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link

plus cackling

andrew m., Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

although we can't dismiss the possibility of the Coens taking some artistic license

That's my thinking. I mean, why wouldn't they?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link

I shared the leprechaun theory with a colleague at my department Christmas party last night, and he laughed for a solid minute.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:22 (five years ago) link

I'ma die on this hill I guess.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link

the funny thing is it's the kind of detail that's open to interpretation (imo) and also totally inconsequential to the general tenor of the story

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link

Yeah. It's in no way important to the story itself. It's completely a creation of the costume designer and maybe/maybe not the Coens being silly.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:28 (five years ago) link

there is a supernatural air to this passage from the story tbf

He did not spring up nor look around. He did not move. He was considering the nature of the premonition he had received, trying to locate the source of the mysterious force that had warned him, striving to sense the imperative presence of the unseen thing that threatened him. There is an aura of things hostile, made manifest by messengers refined for the senses to know; and this aura he felt, but knew not how he felt it. His was the feeling as when a cloud passes over the sun. It seemed that between him and life had passed something dark and smothering and menacing; a gloom, as it were, that swallowed up life and made for death—his death.

Every force of his being impelled him to spring up and confront the unseen danger, but his soul dominated the panic, and he remained squatting on his heels, in his hands a chunk of gold. He did not dare to look around, but he knew by now that there was something behind him and above him. He made believe to be interested in the gold in his hand. He examined it critically, turned it over and over, and rubbed the dirt from it. And all the time he knew that something behind him was looking at the gold over his shoulder. Still feigning interest in the chunk of gold in his hand, he listened intently and he heard the breathing of the thing behind him. Possibly it was a leprechaun of some kind.

Number None, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:33 (five years ago) link

lol

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link

impeccable timing

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link

HAHAHA

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link

excellent

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 01:20 (five years ago) link

I need to rewatch, but I totally think it's possible the Coens saw the Leprechaun parallels and played into it a bit without literally trying to say the dude was a Leprechaun.

circa1916, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 01:28 (five years ago) link

Leprechauns? That's where the Coens are Vikings!

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 02:23 (five years ago) link

Leprechaun Returns out today fyi

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 02:52 (five years ago) link

n 'All Gold Canyon,' the stranger/claim jumper who shot Tom Waits' prospector in the back was actually a leprechaun protecting his "pot o' gold," y/n?

He's wearing all green, he's appears out of nowhere, and he doesn't act with any urgency to collect the gold Waits found. He, instead, smokes a cigarette calmly and sits down like "got another one."

When I first read this, I thought you were literally saying that the character is a leprechaun and this is a salient part of the plot, which seemed far-fetched. If the idea is more that the costume designer was drawing on leprechaun-like archetypes in the character's outfit, as a sort of joke, without it necessarily making the character a leprechaun in any substantive way that would matter to the story, that does seem more plausible.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 03:51 (five years ago) link

what if leprechauns were just a mythical representation of claim jumpers the whole time? always hoarding gold, just out of our reach

mh, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 03:53 (five years ago) link

In the original Jack London story, the fact that the gold does NOT belong to the claim jumper is absolutely essential to the story. Even hinting that this was in some way a legitimate act, protecting the murderer's legitimate rights to the gold turns the entire story on its head.

But such a reversal of roles makes zero sense. The deeper moral outrage of the story is predicated on the idea that, not only does the stranger murder the prospector for the gold, but he purposely waits around before killing him, so the prospector would do all the hard physical work for him. He not just greedy and violent, he's lazy, too.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 04:01 (five years ago) link

did anyone imply the claim jumper was ever in the right

mh, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 04:12 (five years ago) link

I mean, it would be implied if he was a leprechaun...

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 04:13 (five years ago) link

so mythical beings have property rights now? pshaw

mh, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 04:19 (five years ago) link

ersatz pshaw. I'm not buying it.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 04:32 (five years ago) link

I need to rewatch, but I totally think it's possible the Coens saw the Leprechaun parallels and played into it a bit without literally trying to say the dude was a Leprechaun.

― circa1916, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:28 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thank you! Seriously...

Evan, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 04:47 (five years ago) link

Just what are the property rights of leprechauns, this needs to be sorted out

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 05:22 (five years ago) link

They own this shit over here, ok?

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Evan, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 05:42 (five years ago) link

Aimless otm

“claim jumper is a leprechaun” makes the whole story so on the nose as to be pointless. leave Johnny Fever to his lucky charms fanfic, i beg you all

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 06:31 (five years ago) link

hmmm, you eat lucky charms from a cereal bowl

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 07:15 (five years ago) link

I started watching this. First 2 segments are solid gold. 3rd is weird but kind of interesting. 4th is kinda boring so far.

o. nate, Saturday, 15 December 2018 03:47 (five years ago) link

I generally liked this! No outright bad episodes -- though the most promising, with Zoe Kazan and Bill Heck, is where I overdosed on the cruelty -- and several ace ones, including the Tom Waits prospector and "The Meal Ticket."

I am familiar with counting chickens in sideshows.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2018 05:36 (five years ago) link

Yeah, “Meal Ticket” and “The Prospector” are def the two that have stayed with me the most, I still think about them a lot.

also where do you stand on ‘claimjumper is a leprechaun’

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2018 05:48 (five years ago) link

hadn't occurred to me, sure n' begorrah

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2018 11:37 (five years ago) link

I'm willing to accept the guy as a leprechaun because it's not the only, or even the most, unrealistic thing in the episode. The prospector gets shot in the back and just carries on like nbd? They're both supernatural beings!

WmC, Thursday, 20 December 2018 13:46 (five years ago) link

I honestly thought that happens all the time in the US tbh.

calzino, Thursday, 20 December 2018 13:52 (five years ago) link


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