between this and the pirates' signing of lonnie chisenhall, the NL central arms race has really escalated
The #STLCards have acquired six-time NL All-Star 1B Paul Goldschmidt from the Arizona Diamondbacks in exchange for C Carson Kelly, RHP Luke Weaver, INF Andy Young and the club's Compensation Round B selection in the 2019 MLB Draft. #TimeToFly pic.twitter.com/65SThIrDli— St. Louis Cardinals (@Cardinals) December 5, 2018
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link
damn, i like weaver a lot. tough price.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link
"i read it first on ILB"
wow!
kind of excited to have a "star" on the team for the first time in a while, even though there have been flashes of brilliance with matt carpenter and tommy pham recently.
andy young won't be talked about much, maybe, but i was excited about him. he shot up all the internal prospect lists last year, a 24 year old 2B who has hit with power at every level so far.
it was either going to be carson kelly or andrew knizner, and although i've been a supporter of getting kelly more playing time the last year or so (backups to molina don't play), knizner has more upside. kelly's upside is average to meh offensively, .250/.350/.400 in a good year, with solid defense. a valuable catcher! but kelly's offensive ceiling is more like knizner's floor, and his defense is decent, too.
weaver might be good or might be a #4 starter. it was hard to tell, based off of the first two seasons.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link
imo arizona did pretty well considering goldy only has one year left, but st. louis didn't need any of those guys (and weaver was pretty bad last year)
also they're apparently confident they can re-sign goldy, since everyone who comes to STL falls in love with it and the bfib (which might be true)
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link
if they don't resign him at least they'll get an extra draft pick (right?)
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link
assuming they issue a QO
Goldsmith had such an incredibly streaky year in '18... not sure if that was symptomatic of something negative or what.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link
Immediate reaction from rival exec on #DBacks’ return for Goldschmidt: “A boatload” (Only he didn’t say boat). Five years control on Weaver, six on Kelly, plus pick in 70 to 75 range; Young fringy. #STLCards will call it a win, too. Kept Dakota Hudson, Kelly blocked by Yadi.— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) December 5, 2018
Front office exec on the Cards-D'Backs trade: It's just a fair trade all the way around. Makes sense for both teams. Cardinals get better for 2019. D-Backs get a solid (but not spectacular) return.— JJ Cooper (@jjcoop36) December 5, 2018
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link
PG 2018
home: 238/.363/.420away: .339/.415/.638
May: .144/.252/.278
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link
vs Career .943 OPS in May.
Basically getting him out of the nu-humidor and into Busch could be the answer:
Career @ Busch:.302/.402/.488
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link
PG BABIP in may: .186 (up around .400 the rest of the year)
PG from june 1 forward: .330/.420/.602; 1.022 ops was fourth in MLB behind trout, yelich and jd martinez
not too worried about him
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
only stole seven bases last year tho
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link
Eovaldi back with the BoSox for four years, $67.5MM.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link
Jesus
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link
TINSTAAPP
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
That sure is a lot of money for a good postseason (I can't see much else in his career that's very distinguished).
― clemenza, Thursday, 6 December 2018 20:58 (five years ago) link
i thought the goldy trade was fair for both sides. it's possible kelly never really hits and weaver is just a 3/4 starter, but there's enough upside that i think you'd feel pretty good getting that for just one year of goldy.
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link
weaver is projected for 2 WAR next year... if you think he's closer to his rookie season than last season maybe that creeps up to 3 or even 3.5 if he really figures it out. goldy has been a consistent 5 WAR player... the trade might not even look that bad for the d backs just off next year alone.
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link
Yankees President Randy Levine is among the names being mentioned for White House Chief of Staff, per @MSNBC— Adam Zagoria (@AdamZagoria) December 10, 2018
the hottest stove
― mookieproof, Monday, 10 December 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link
please god he will do less damage there
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 10 December 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link
billy hamilton to the royals
sunday night baseball will start at 7 ET next year
― mookieproof, Monday, 10 December 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link
i expect Goldschmidt to start winning All-Star elections at 1B, as Redbird Nation will vote often for such a towering, boring hunk of white manmeat.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 December 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link
i believe that d-bag nation voted him into the all-star game the past 6 years, as well
― Karl Malone, Monday, 10 December 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link
Freddie Freeman last year, right?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 December 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
Goldy has 6 selections, but not sure how may times he won the vote (at least twice)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 December 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link
pirates shed salary -- shocking, i know -- by sending ivan nova to the white sox
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link
pirates will apparently fill that hole in their staff by signing jordan lyles, a right-hander with a career WAR of -3.3
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link
Sources: Phillies are in agreement with Andrew McCutchen, pending a physical.— Matt Gelb (@MattGelb) December 11, 2018
blue jays have released tulo
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link
am surprised they pulled the trigger on doing that! essentially paying 38 million to free up a roster spot.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 21:04 (five years ago) link
I may regret these words, but bargain of the year.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link
lol
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link
http://www.facebook.com/BlueJays/photos/a.381692688771/10156242608293772/?type=3&theater
I know the club's happy to get rid of him, but they don't to actually thank him for leaving--that's a little much.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link
tbf i saw a quote from tulo's agent being grateful -- he said shapiro et al were very professional about everything and that it's much better for his client to be cut loose now than at the end of spring training or something
i mean it's kind of insulting, but he still gets paid, and will have more fun playing somewhere where he's wanted (assuming he can ever stay healthy)
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link
Lyles had some good games last year. Had a perfect game going against Colorado through 7.1 in May.
― timellison, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 03:59 (five years ago) link
happ back to the yankees
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link
Brandon Hyde, Orioles manager
last week his name was Jekyll
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link
charlie morton to tampa, two years/$30m
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link
nice to see from tampa
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link
yeah i don't think they've ever had a $15m/yr player before.
also that seems like an extremely team-friendly deal for a guy projected to put up 3+ WAR next year (only marginally less than patrick corbin's projection). that no reputed contenders offered something better seems like a bad sign
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
the reds and nationals pulling off the rare tanner-for-tanner trade
― na (NA), Thursday, 13 December 2018 01:43 (five years ago) link
lance lynn to rangers, $30 million/3 years
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 03:10 (five years ago) link
edwin encarnacion to seattle for carlos santana
not entirely sure i see the point
― mookieproof, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link
7M dollar difference afaict
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link
all else equal, i'd much rather have santana. but i don't know either system's prospect/depth situation
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
they each have a 3 year, $60 million contract (2017-19 for encarnacion, 2018-20 for santana), with a one year team option that seems unlikely to be exercised at the end (25.5M for encarnacion, 17.5M for santana)
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link
oh, edwing's 2020 is a team option while santana's is guaranteed, so that makes sense for seattle
― mookieproof, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link
wait, there's more to it. it's a three-team deal, with the rays
yandy diaz goes from indians to raysjake bauers from rays to indiansencarnacion from indians to marinerssantana from mariners to indians
i think?
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
mariners send high five to raysrays wave back to mariners
i don't understand how that's a three-team trade, rather than just the indians making two different trades at the same time, but ken rosenthal says it's true so
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link