Complex list is decent but the ordering is bonkers to me.
Also, am I alone in thinking that the Tierra Whack album seems to be getting more shine than it deserves? Maybe I'll revisit it today but I didn't really like it much when I first listened.
― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
I agree. As a calling-card EP it shows a lot of promise, but aoty is a big stretch
― rob, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
Vinyl Factory list is awesome. Love their taste.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
TW probably my favourite rap album of the year tbf
― imago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
yours, a committed and knowledgeable rap fan
Glad to see the Yob record place so low on the Noisey list. Yob sucks, and I don't understand why so many critics worship them. Sure, the dude almost died and that's a good feature hook, but it doesn't make their music interesting.― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, December 5, 2018 5:59 AM (three hours ago)
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, December 5, 2018 5:59 AM (three hours ago)
O_O
― alpine static, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link
tbf I've never got Yob either
― imago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
tbf they're one of the best heavy bands on the planet
― alpine static, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link
Nah, he's right.
2xp
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link
Yob sucks, and I don't understand why so many critics worship them
it's unperson, you can replace "yob" in this construction with like... most bands
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link
i don't love yob but i respect what they're doing
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link
who da fuq is yob
― single bed mentality (||||||||), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link
xxp ok, fine, but in this particular case that is an laughably terrible opinion.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link
xp a metal band
― sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link
idk how you listen to "Marrow" and say this band sucks
and the idea that people only write about them because Mike almost died is borderline offensive. the band has existed for 20 years, has been touring the world for almost as long, and has been a favorite of critics for 10+
― alpine static, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link
doesn't mean you have to like 'em but citing his medical issue as a good feature hook driving press coverage is impressively stupid
― alpine static, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link
and the idea that people only write about them because Mike almost died is borderline offensive
i mean, agreed
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link
album's great and dismissing it as only being listed because of the "narrative" is some bullshit
― resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
You know it was the first sentence of the press release, right? And I'm well aware of how long Yob have been around - the first record of theirs I heard was the aptly titled The Illusion of Motion. There's a fair amount of good doom out there, but Yob are boring and bad.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
Literally every single one of their post-hiatus albums has been EOY list fodder.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link
There is nothing exceptional about the treatment this record's gotten AFAICT
― resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
you clown yourself for spending any time thinking about press releases imo
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
There are plenty of hyped up releases I don't care for but I generally assume it's because they hear something I don't, not because they're dumb rubes who fell for an extramusical marketing hook.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
Literally every single one of their post-hiatus albums has been EOY list fodder...There is nothing exceptional about the treatment this record's gotten AFAICT
Absolutely true. They've been critical darlings for a decade, and I'm honestly kind of impressed that they've managed to thread the needle and lure in both metal writers and "I don't know shit about metal but this is the best metal album of the year" indie schmendricks. I still think they suck, though.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link
You clown yourself by pretending that shit doesn't matter. I've argued for years that critics' polls should include four categories: Artist, Title, Label, and Publicist.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link
I have no idea who this band is, but, like, every press release tells a story about stuff happening in the artist's life, singling out any one band for it is kind of like singling out a person for breathing air. (there's a point to be made about how this is sometimes gruesome/commodifying for the musician, but that point is not here)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, December 5, 2018 11:35 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes you certainly have argued this for years
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link
using your whole fucking thing about press releases to second guess other ppl's enjoyment of the band/record is fucking stupid pretty boring and bad though
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link
i probably should've edited that post more
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:43 (five years ago) link
There's a fair amount of good doom out there, but Yob are boring and bad.
what a shitty opinion
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link
I think i read a Ben Ratliff thing that I always think about, w/r/t their interplay. They really feel synced into each other. They have melody and soar. This is maybe my third fave Yob record.
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link
i just put on the new yob and i can sorta immediately tell why it's special? they're really locked in and dynamic and there are good melodies on top of it
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link
I mean, this is a lot of what I love about Kranky-era Low, but it's just louder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGgEvV3W2qc
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link
And dude has a great rock voice too
i mean i'm essentially repeating what whiney said but. otm! xp
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link
Looking at these lists is like looking at current squad list of Turkish football clubs on wikipedia except with more Josephines than Cenks. No sign of Djourou yet, however
― saer, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link
just wanna note that the break in Yob releases was not exactly a "hiatus", more like Mike's attempt to start a totally new band that became a total clusterfuck cuz of some legalistic jerks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middian
and I think he just gave up at that point and went back to Yob, but not totally sure. I was roommates with the Middian bass player for a while and heard abt most of this as it was going down.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link
I mean, I will grant unperson that, yes, T E H N A R R A T I V E has granted them maybe a little more coverage/focus then they would get otherwise, but they are easily the best non-Sleep doom band of the last 15 years so who gives a shit
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link
Having just heard the new Evoken, I'll take those guys over anything by Yob or Sleep.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link
the new evoken is great but imo we can have it all
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link
we can have Mournful Congregation too! doom is a big heavy church
― resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link
Sleep sucks too, FTR. (So does Neurosis, just to complete the everyone-is-wrong-but-me trifecta.)
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link
OK you've lost me now
― imago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link
cool so there was never any chance you would like yob, thanks for contributing
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link
There was a chance, back in 2004.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/472/seriouscatcover.jpg
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
Aside from Evoken, a few doom and doom-ish bands that have released albums more deserving of attention than Yob's or Sleep's this year: Messa, Argonavis, Hamferð, Hooded Menace, Churchburn, Mournful Congregation.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
That Messa album is great.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link
i agree that Sleep isn't that great. Sleep is a merch-sales operation at this point.
Yob is fucking great, though. Whiney is right about the melody and the soaring. and Mike's one of the best vocalists going, in any genre. they're great recorded, and they're mind-blowing live.
did they get more coverage because of the near-death experience? maybe a couple pieces, but nothing major. everyone writes about a new Yob record ... and with good reason.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link
glad this thread has had a metal takeover anyway
― imago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link