I'd be onboard with Bloomberg, but I only know him as actually successful technology capitalist and national commentator, not as mayor.
― Sanpaku, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link
MORE BILLIONAIRES IN POLITICS
― We're in 2009—it's time to take risks, (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
it turns out that being a successful capitalist means your priorities diverge from those of the laboring classes, including the citizens governed by a mayor
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
people just can't get enough of this guy who loves stop and frisk
― mh, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/19/opinion/bloomberg-stop-frisk-racial-injustice.html
― mh, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link
Best of luck to Orlando Bloomberg
anticipating ilx "nicknames suck ass" posts when i persist in calling pres bloomberg "bloomps."
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
Obama was a centrist. Clinton was a centrist. Carter was a centrist. The last time a representative of the Dem left was elected was 54 years ago. The last time a representive of the Dem left was elected having not served as VP was 86 years ago.I want to win, I want to give a Left leaning Dem congress a chance to do things. The existential threat of climate change is the paramount moral issue of the day, and to lose in 2020, because we nominated some DSA approved character that couldn't carry swing states, will be a moral failing that will redound through millennia to come.― Sanpaku, Tuesday, December 4, 2018 8:00 PM (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I want to win, I want to give a Left leaning Dem congress a chance to do things. The existential threat of climate change is the paramount moral issue of the day, and to lose in 2020, because we nominated some DSA approved character that couldn't carry swing states, will be a moral failing that will redound through millennia to come.
― Sanpaku, Tuesday, December 4, 2018 8:00 PM (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This has a nice patina of using historical evidence to support your point, but each of the Presidents you've named was elected at a confluence of particular and distinct historical circumstances that had more to do with the American moment and their opponents than their purported moderation. Like you I don't just want to win, I know we must win -- there is no alternative -- but "some DSA approved character that couldn't carry swing states" is a figment of your imagination. Evers and Baldwin in Wisconsin, Whitmer winning comfortably in MI after being pushed left by Al-Sayed, we've got enough indications people are ready for a progressive leader in the likely 2020 swing states that it's not even an interesting question anymore. The interesting question is who the right one is.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 8 December 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link
well argued
conclusion: hoos is running
― aphextriplet85 (mh), Monday, 10 December 2018 00:42 (five years ago) link
hey guys primaries exist, you can test their values and everything, shit's wild
― gbx, Monday, 10 December 2018 00:44 (five years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/mEUmeOiT9MCMo/giphy.gif
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 10 December 2018 03:58 (five years ago) link
leaning toward HOOS or Sherrod Brown
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 December 2018 04:05 (five years ago) link
Brb, mocking up the "I'm With HOOS" bumper stickers.
Make America steendrive again
― Ra's al Gore (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link
WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand is looking at Troy, New York, as a potential base for a 2020 presidential bid, according to multiple people familiar with the discussions. pic.twitter.com/D8MR8GBEqf— Joseph Spector (@GannettAlbany) January 10, 2019
can't wait for the style section trendpieces
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 January 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link
Smarter pick than Brooklyn
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 10 January 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link
"some DSA approved character that couldn't carry swing states" is a figment of your imagination. Evers and Baldwin in Wisconsin,
Evers was definitely seen as on the centrist side of the primary, but point taken re Baldwin, and the point will be hammered home in the 2022 when Mark Pocan beats Ron Johnson and Wisconsin has left-progressive Dem senators.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link
share the spider sense about this guy, but i'd love to see him debate some dreadful bore like garcetti or castro if they have undercard/kids table debates
I am no fan of golf. I think golf courses should be transitioned to homeless shelters. https://t.co/9e0oiNSHRx— Richard N. Ojeda, II (@VoteOjeda2020) January 11, 2019
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 11 January 2019 21:58 (five years ago) link
fuck golf tbrr
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 January 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link
right
― flappy bird, Friday, 11 January 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link
eh he used "transitioned"
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link
The fact that he’s not running for something else to build a base in WV and instead going straight to national politics makes me think he’s angling for a Fox News spot down the line more than anything.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 11 January 2019 22:14 (five years ago) link
lol @ declaring on a Friday afternoonhttps://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/425010-tulsi-gabbard-announces-2020-white-house-bid
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 12 January 2019 00:03 (five years ago) link
It ain’t gonna be Tulsi Gabbard so why should she try too hard
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Saturday, 12 January 2019 00:04 (five years ago) link
Ok I know Tulsi isn't the one, but I also am willing to let the process play out. If this thread is a just a skeet shoot it will get tiresome fast.
Nope! Not her. Not him. Not her either. Him? Hell no. HER? Gawd please no. HIM? Are you kidding? Etc.
Lots of people will enter. That is okay. Only one will remain. That is okay too. Personally I am pretty zen about letting it all spoil out without making a choice at this juncture. Ymmv
― Twas in the fleek midwinter (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 12 January 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link
* spool out
that's fair I was just counter-zinging the "Friday afternoon" zing or w/e
I'll save my eyerolls for Booker
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Saturday, 12 January 2019 00:29 (five years ago) link
idk shit about tulsi gabbard but fwiw i came across this on fb, from a friend of a friend (who i otherwise do not know at all):
'Her father has led all of the anti-gay initiatives in Hawai’i politics for the last 20 years. Tulsi was right out in front spewing hate until she had her “epiphany” when she ran for Congress. I watched her on more than one occasion SCREAMING at LGBT folks and their allies in front of the Capital. She told me, to my face, in front of a crowd, that I and all my faggot friends (HER words) were going to burn in hell...and that it couldn’t happen soon enough. So that’s a first person account and that’s Tulsi Gabbard.'
― gbx, Saturday, 12 January 2019 02:28 (five years ago) link
She is a legit crank
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 12 January 2019 02:42 (five years ago) link
okay okay, screenshotting your own tweets is kinda lame, so here's a thread by @pplswar listing all the unrelated political reasons for why Tulsi Gabbard sucks https://t.co/n2c1agyoa9— Sous la plage (@SousLaPlage) January 11, 2019
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Saturday, 12 January 2019 02:58 (five years ago) link
Her badness has been pretty well documented for a while
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/tulsi-gabbard-president-sanders-democratic-party
― resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 12 January 2019 03:11 (five years ago) link
OK, I really like and respect every single Democrat who's announced so far and all those who are likely to announce soon, and would support any of them in a Presidential election with fervent and unfeigned enthusiasm, except Tulsi Gabbard, who sucks.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 12 January 2019 03:29 (five years ago) link
OTM
― Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Saturday, 12 January 2019 03:42 (five years ago) link
tulsi is creepy af. quite apart from what she says, her associations are a nightmare: she's been surrounded her whole life with nothing but the passionate worst. other (bad) dems talk clash-of-civilizations but david duke doesn't pop up to say they should be secretary of state.
whatever eccentric erected a billboard a block from my favorite hot dog place a decade ago to denounce "dirty doctors" in letters made of electric tape (story behind this is probably awful) now uses it mostly to denounce tulsi, sometimes for being in collusion w dirty doctors. wouldn't surprise me a bit.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 12 January 2019 09:43 (five years ago) link
Hopefully her higher profile and the magnifying glass on her awfulness might lead somebody to primary her out of her seat
― harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Saturday, 12 January 2019 14:56 (five years ago) link
Julian Castro is in
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 January 2019 15:10 (five years ago) link
Someone on FB posted Gabbard's announcement, saying "who is this???" and one of the most fervently right-wing people on my feed, a guy who spends his whole day jumping on peoples' comment threads and decrying their political correctness, immediately came in to praise her and say he would definitely vote for her.
Can't decide whether this is
a) Gabbard actually has appeal for affluent highly-educated right-wing people who think Trump is a fool but hate their suburban advanced-degree liberal surroundings more than anything elseb) Gabbard is the image of what right-wing people think of left-wing people as finding appealing and so RW people are inclined to cynically talk up her candidacy because they believe this will successfully split Democratic votes
Anyway, Julian Castro, great! I like Julian Castro a lot.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 12 January 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link
I saw someone report that Harris is waiting to announce on MLK day, which is fucked up. Don't step on the man's day!
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 January 2019 15:52 (five years ago) link
synergy
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 January 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link
Gabbard is the image of what right-wing people think of left-wing people as finding appealing and so RW people are inclined to cynically talk up her candidacy because they believe this will successfully split Democratic votes
it's that one
― Dan I., Saturday, 12 January 2019 16:41 (five years ago) link
it's kind of the stopped clock situation and how some leftists could at least appreciate Ron Paul's anti-imperialsim and vigorous denunciation of the Iraq invasion. but with Tulsi and conservatives it's the racism & homophobia
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 12 January 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link
Harris is waiting to announce on MLK day
She just wants to claim his aura by standing in it, which is totally a politician thing to do, because it is wholly symbolic and without substance, yet elections regularly are decided by baseless symbolism and appeals to emotion and they lean on that lever as hard as they can.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 12 January 2019 17:17 (five years ago) link
i don't see any problem with harris announcing on MLK day. it's symbolic, and for good reason. she is in a position to announce her candidacy as one of the main contenders for the president of the united states in no small part because of the work that King accomplished. she's paying respect to that while also looking forward to the work that still remains to be done.
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 January 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link
So, who’s announcing on Valentines Day?
― suzy, Saturday, 12 January 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link
O'Malley obv
― resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 12 January 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
someone who wants to lose the Valentines Day Blows vote
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 January 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
KM otm
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 12 January 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link
It's like if someone took a bunch of random warmed over liberal talking points from the 1990s and put them in a humanoid. https://t.co/CNt4HnT9GY— Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller) January 12, 2019
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:29 (five years ago) link
"Today, we live in a world in which brainpower is the new currency of success." #Julian2020— Julián Castro (@JulianCastro) January 12, 2019
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:35 (five years ago) link
lol that’s fuckin nonsense
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link
my god
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:43 (five years ago) link
Hopefully her higher profile and the magnifying glass on her awfulness might lead somebody to primary her out of her seat― harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Saturday, January 12, 2019 4:56 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Saturday, January 12, 2019 4:56 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
All my friends here on Oahu are hoping so too.
― davey, Saturday, 12 January 2019 22:15 (five years ago) link