I feel there's 1-2 songs on Sensual World that drag it down a bit compared to the previous three records, but the highs are as high as any of her work. That "mmmmmm yesss" gets me every. fucking. time.
― octobeard, Saturday, 1 December 2018 09:52 (five years ago) link
Too many chunky rawk guitars and a claustrophobic mix. The title track is fine as is "This Woman's Work" but it's the album where she went from an idiosyncratic, often visionary sound on the three previous albums ( I like the first two fine but they're just stepping stones) into a disappointing ( for me ) MOR direction.
― An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 1 December 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link
I'd recommend giving this remaster a listen if you find the mix claustrophobic. I've always liked the sound and mix of this album and I think there are more chunky rawk guitars on Red Shoes and even on Never Forever personally; but the remaster really gives this album some more space and light. I think I've given most everything a listen digitally now. I did order the first vinyl box and will relent and get the other three as my bank account allows.
― akm, Thursday, 6 December 2018 03:27 (five years ago) link
though Director's Cut doesn't necessarily sound any better and still seems wholly unnecessary to me.
― akm, Thursday, 6 December 2018 03:29 (five years ago) link
Also: she swapped out the Big Sky on Hounds of Love with the single mix, which I was worried about until I realized this wasn't the extended mix; there's just some added keyboard in the background at the beginning which after a few listens I have to say I prefer to the original.
Also: ditched Rolf Harris on Aerial for her son. Also an improvement, I think.
― akm, Thursday, 6 December 2018 03:39 (five years ago) link
anyone find Aerial on vinyl in the US? (not the box, the standalone version).
― akm, Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:21 (five years ago) link
Kate would like to clarify something for you all
http://www.katebush.com/news/clarification
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link
"Again with no response from me to the latest resurfacing of this article, it could make it seem like I am a tory supporter which I want to make clear I am not."
Undying love restored.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:58 (five years ago) link
lol i knew she was lib dem all along
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:59 (five years ago) link
lmao
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:04 (five years ago) link
It's highly unlikely that one writes a song like 'Breathing' and then becomes a Torycan.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:33 (five years ago) link
did people genuinely think she was a Tory?
like I've seen some people being all "so relieved!!11!!one" on Facebook and I'm like... did you ever listen to anything she's ever done and think this was the work of someone who would lean that way politically?
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:02 (five years ago) link
If you read the article at that time, of course people genuinely thought she was a Tory. She basically said so (something she now retracts).
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:16 (five years ago) link
I mean, the original quote was just along the lines of "it's wonderful to have a woman in charge" which is a sentiment I've heard fairly often from people, generally older, moderate-ish women, who would not otherwise say they support the Tory and/or Republican party if phrased that way
― theorizing your yells (katherine), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link
"We have a female prime minister here in the UK. I actually really like her and think she’s wonderful. I think it’s the best thing that’s happened to us in a long time. She’s a very intelligent woman but I don’t see much to fear. I will say it is great to have a woman in charge of the country. She’s very sensible and I think that’s a good thing at this point in time."
Yes, it is about a woman being in charge. But in the context of Brexit and British politics as a whole, this reads as a strong endorsement if there ever was one.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:25 (five years ago) link
I had forgot about the "I actually really like her" part - it's still not an outright admittance but it's not exactly great is it
still, I think it's easy enough to overlook - if you could only listen to artists whose politics align with yours and behave in a way you approve, you would drive yourself crazy eliminating artists from your interests
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:37 (five years ago) link
yes, it was referenced a lot on this site
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:40 (five years ago) link
lol I skimmed that part because I thought it was just hype for the reissues - I'm not a massive fan tbh but the way certain corners for the music press and fans acted you'd think she had renounced her career and not just, y'know, made some very questionable political choices
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:42 (five years ago) link
ffs I am a fan of Kim Campbell despite her being a Tory and having done a really bad job
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:43 (five years ago) link
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, January 8, 2019 11:37 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No-one's saying we can only listen to artists whose politics align with ours. But for KB to say May is "wonderful", "best thing to happen to Britain"... Tell that to my friends struggling under Tory command.
I've enough dealing with still listening to and enjoying Death in June and a boatload of black metal bands and other pricks. I didn't need KB added to the mix, so I'm glad she clarified the matter, albeit two years later.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:00 (five years ago) link
oh don't get me wrong, it's disappointing on a personal level - but I don't think it's difficult to seperate the art from the artist in this instance. I don't know exactly where you can draw the line: I can't listen to "Ignition (Remix)" without thinking of what a predator R Kelly has turned out to be but Bush having a vague support for May seemingly based on superficial levels of vague feminism doesn't ruin "Running Up That Hill" for me
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:05 (five years ago) link
Honestly: I draw a hypocritical, morally completely arbitrary line that somehow works for myself. I won't listen to Burzum anymore (but it wasn't that good anyway). But there is music where my love for it is stronger than my denouncing of the artist who made it. Which goes for every art form. And I'm ok with that.
Being under the impression for two years that Bush was a Tory didn't stop me from listening to/loving her music. But I am glad she addressed it, better late than never.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:10 (five years ago) link
yeah there are definitely artists/songs where the grey area makes me feel uncomfortable, something like "Vogue" counts as a proper Guilty Pleasure in that I enjoy it but feel guilty because of the ~baggage~ it brings
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:13 (five years ago) link
and I don't think anyone can be criticised over where they draw their own lines on this stuff
Wait, Madonna's 'Vogue'?! What baggage does that bring, if any?
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:18 (five years ago) link
Having revived this thread I will say it was very nice to get both remastered boxes over the holidays -- for free, in essence. (One was a slightly unexpected promo, the other was via Amoeba store credit.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:21 (five years ago) link
xp https://genius.com/Dj-sprinkles-ballr-madonna-free-zone-lyrics
― lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:25 (five years ago) link
Yeah, the boxes put an enjoyable dent in my xmas bonus. They look and sound really good. Especially been enjoying the Aerial reissue.
xp
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:26 (five years ago) link
xp Thanks Eric, I had sort of forgotten about that but I'm fully team Sprinkles.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:27 (five years ago) link
I've enough dealing with still listening to and enjoying Death in June and a boatload of black metal bands and other pricks. I didn't need KB added to the mix, so I'm glad she clarified the matter, albeit two years later.― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, January 8, 2019 6:00 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, January 8, 2019 6:00 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ok, she was never at risk of turning out to be a nazi.
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:12 (five years ago) link
Like at worst she was just sort of not interested in politics and wanted to show solidarity with a female PM. She never campaigned for Brexit and she didn’t burn down any churches.
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:17 (five years ago) link
that you know of
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:31 (five years ago) link
Just one man's opinion but Varg did, you know, brutally murder another human being which is kind of a big deal!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:34 (five years ago) link
I mean it's almost as bad as making one muddled and clueless political comment in an interview once in a 40+ year career
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:36 (five years ago) link
This strikes me as a consequence of the journalist, whoever they were, failing to adequately follow up on that answer or press her for clarification or challenge her.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 09:53 (five years ago) link
Kate Bush did 9/11
― L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 10:04 (five years ago) link
irl giggle
― sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 10:08 (five years ago) link
""We have a female prime minister here in the UK. I actually really like her and think she’s wonderful. I think it’s the best thing that’s happened to us in a long time."
that is quite a weird thing for someone to say in a country that had Margaret Thatcher as PM for 10 years tbh
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 10:16 (five years ago) link
iirc there were a couple of seasoned political hacks at the Graun - with no naivety card to play. Making similar ridiculous statements about May in her first few weeks of this golden premiership of the ages. K Bush probably is a Tory twat, albeit a bit of a muddled posho cryptoTory type one - but tbf to her she isn't exactly A L Webber jetting over from NYC to try and help Gideon's evil tax credit cuts through the House of Lords.
― calzino, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 10:52 (five years ago) link
xpost I was thinking the exact same thing. The second most famous PM of the 20th century was female and a right-wing asshole. And not that long ago!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 12:48 (five years ago) link
Tbf, Thatcher covered Tour Of Life era through to Comic Strip: GLC-soundtrack, so KB was pretty busy. She likely didn't notice who was PM.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 12:51 (five years ago) link
Yes, let's not forget the Ken Livingstone tribute song..
― Mark G, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:05 (five years ago) link
I'm sure there is a ton of nuance I'm missing because I'm American, but Kate Bush has always screamed "eccentric out of touch rich lady who putters around the garden of her estate" so I guess I'm not super shocked she's mildly conservative leaning but probably moreso just disengaged with the real world having afaict raised privileged, super successful at a young age
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:35 (five years ago) link
I still wouldn't be surprised if she was on the hippy end of Brexit. But that's OK.
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:41 (five years ago) link
ums otm, when this originally came up someone on ilx said something funny like “how surprising that a prog rock musician who lives in an actual castle might be a bit Tory”
― Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:43 (five years ago) link
Was her upbringing that privileged? She was born in Bexleyheath, grew up near Welling, neither of which are exactly 'posh', and she went to a grammar school.
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:12 (five years ago) link
everyone in Britain is privileged and muddled, you can't judge us
― ogmor, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:22 (five years ago) link
she's probably no posher than, say, Ed Sheeran
― I can't dérive fifty-feev (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link
How is poshness measured? Grams?
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link
Grauns
― I can't dérive fifty-feev (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:31 (five years ago) link