Charter schools in the United States

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eg: low income, non-college educated iimmigrant communities

the late great, Saturday, 1 December 2018 04:44 (five years ago) link

but hey, congrats! i really respect that. kids are lucky to have you :)

the late great, Saturday, 1 December 2018 04:44 (five years ago) link

don’t get me wrong, our families are incredibly involved. we have a full time pta and community volunteer coordinator on staff.

but many of my kids have parents who are not literate. they don’t have email at home or work. they can help in many ways, but probably not in building STEM education

the late great, Saturday, 1 December 2018 04:47 (five years ago) link

you know we are embroiled in a massive labor dispute rn. we have unionized and though the university claims to have accepted it, they also appear to some people to be retaliating against us

anyway in response to these charges, they (university admin and legal) sent us a letter in which they repeatedly argued that we as teachers need to view their actions “with the lens of positive intent”.

in my experience, i have found that all teachers i know have extended me this courtesy, as have district staff. at least to my face!

the late great, Saturday, 1 December 2018 04:52 (five years ago) link

i mean to say district employed teachers - not charter school employed teachers - have generally extended us that courtesy, of not seeing our efforts as efforts to undermine them

though there are definitely people who show up to school board meetings arguing that we should have our charter revoked - in the most recent case, affluent and college-educated families were apparently lobbying for access to our school

the late great, Saturday, 1 December 2018 04:55 (five years ago) link

anyway, i hope you have enjoyed this glimpse into the banality of evil, that’s my story and i’m sticking to it

the late great, Saturday, 1 December 2018 04:57 (five years ago) link

I think the con argument have been laid out pretty well.

I think is on you to make the pro case tighter and more convincing.

I am willing to listen, but please understand that DeVos et al make your case harder.

fajita seas, Saturday, 1 December 2018 05:19 (five years ago) link

heh

it’s not on me to do anything

the late great, Saturday, 1 December 2018 05:41 (five years ago) link

for the sake of my mental health i’m not committed to changing minds in any way other than doing my job

the late great, Saturday, 1 December 2018 05:41 (five years ago) link

prolly good cause i’m not that good at it, amirite?

the late great, Saturday, 1 December 2018 05:55 (five years ago) link

This is online the only thing on any of us is....line

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 1 December 2018 06:14 (five years ago) link

anyway in response to these charges, they (university admin and legal) sent us a letter in which they repeatedly argued that we as teachers need to view their actions “with the lens of positive intent”.

lmao I legitimately love reading things like this, panicked bosses scrambling for moral high ground is up there with "thank you for joining us on our startup journey" as a schadenfreudegenre

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 1 December 2018 06:18 (five years ago) link

"we don't think of you as employees you're family until you're no longer useful"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 1 December 2018 06:19 (five years ago) link

not feasible for all communities

― the late great, Friday, November 30, 2018 11:43 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eg: low income, non-college educated iimmigrant communities

― the late great, Friday, November 30, 2018 11:44 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It’s a title 1 school, so obviously a huge amount of the community there are low income. I do agree it’s not feasible in all schools, but I think mostly due to how receptive the schools are to adapting to new ideas. My wife works in a transfer school, many of the stories she comes home with are impossibly sad and/or terrifying, but the administration there are very open to just tying shit and seeing if it works.

Position Position, Saturday, 1 December 2018 11:53 (five years ago) link

lmao I legitimately love reading things like this, panicked bosses scrambling for moral high ground is up there with "thank you for joining us on our startup journey" as a schadenfreudegenre

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, November 30, 2018 10:18 PM (yesterday)

Agreed! ... I would hope that any boss with a shred of self-awareness feels their soul slowly dripping out of their body when writing stuff like that. This one is a classic too: "We are grateful for all your hard work and commitment (but we are going to stab you in the back now, just fyi) "

sarahell, Saturday, 1 December 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link

speaking of the thread title, charter teachers in chicago have just gone on strike--first time union-backed charter instructors have struck in america:

https://www.facebook.com/ctulocal1/videos/611496532599239/

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link

that's our union too (AFT)

speaking of which, another local high-profile charter in our town just decided to unionize and reached out to us for advice

wonder if charter unionization is going to become a trend

the late great, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link

some folks like jane mcalevy in labor have been hollering for a while now that charter teachers & health care workers are the most strategic sectors of the economy (both growing & increasingly essential) and so the places all organizing should be concentrated (e.g., decidedly not in fast food restaurant organizing where the 'strikes' have little to do with what we'd have called a strike 50 years ago)

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

“all”?

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link

this thread really took off while I was away!

short notes: I feel like it's lazy to generalize tlg's employers as "the good ones" but overall in the charter school landscape, that might be somewhat close to true? there's something useful to building things up incrementally, especially when districts have a lot of social and infrastructural constructs that are slow to change. the unionization of charter schools is a good hint as to what might be essential that the less scrupulous charter school organizers, i.e. corporations, might be trying to work around

as for non-charter solutions to provide specialized education, which I think came up on this thread or the california one: the school system I attended had a magnet high school w/vocational programs that shared a building with a magnet academy with AP classes. they've since split into different adjacent buildings. my experience having taken a lot of courses (three in eighth and ninth grade, two class periods in 10th/11th, and four my senior year) at the magnet was that it worked really well despite the transportational logistics. having all of the area high schools within a 10 - 20 minute drive of the magnet school was how it worked -- the class periods were staggered so buses were available at multiple times during the day for transit to/from the home high schools.

since then, the academy school with AP classes has changed so that all teachers are cross-certified as instructors with a local community college, so any college accepting credit hours from the cc means kids don't necessarily have to take AP tests. the district has at least one montessori-style elementary school and a downtown elementary school for commuters now as well, although I'm not sure about the admissions policies. fwiw it's a district with about 32k kids from grades K - 12

mh, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

“all”?

― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, December 5, 2018 7:53 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk the vast majority, i'm overstating to underline the relative emphasis

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

charter teachers & health care workers are the most strategic sectors of the economy (both growing & increasingly essential) and so the places all organizing should be concentrated

I was actually just thinking about this the other day and how that is otm

sarahell, Monday, 10 December 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

if that's interesting to you you oughta check out jane mcalevey's most recent book! it is all about this and has good case studies

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

oh i guess i also said that in the post. it's just very good is all

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

cool!

sarahell, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dw4XLa3WsAA3bWo.jpg:small

mookieproof, Monday, 14 January 2019 15:14 (five years ago) link

said the man whose wife is, uh, involved in charter schools

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 January 2019 15:14 (five years ago) link

what the FUCK does that even mean?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 14 January 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link

I mean I understand what it means, but it's so question-begging as to be almost nonsensical

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 14 January 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link

he's got to be winding people up deliberately, that's so stupid

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

he's said dumber

mh, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

nice juxtaposition with the chait tweet image in the previous revive

mh, Friday, 29 March 2019 19:55 (five years ago) link

So gross. I don’t know how anyone can choose to make money like that. And I’m *shocked* that they’re super-religious.

DJI, Friday, 29 March 2019 21:24 (five years ago) link


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