I've been on a big listening binge on The Ramones for the past few months. Their sound was so streamlined and perfect. Thinking about how it all went, I am curious to find out what the best biography of the Ramones to check out? I have read "From the Velvets to the Voidoids" and "Please Kill Me", but I know there have been a few Ramones biographies that have come out in the recent years.
Having a mono LP of the debut would be cool.
― earlnash, Friday, 30 November 2018 00:06 (five years ago) link
Their sound was so streamlined and perfect
yeah the first album in particular is one of the great formal breakthroughs IMO. just a remarkable synthesis that seems obvious in retrospect but required a real leap.
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 30 November 2018 00:11 (five years ago) link
so sad that the ramones story turned out to be a tragedy.
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 30 November 2018 00:12 (five years ago) link
i just read marky's book and was surprised to learn that they all could barely tolerate each other as early as when he joined the band. it's amazing they lasted as long as they did.
― visiting, Friday, 30 November 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link
i've read a bunch of books about them and, while i'd be hard-pressed to name a "best", i'd recommend the books by everett true and tour manager monte melnick.
― visiting, Friday, 30 November 2018 00:57 (five years ago) link
And while not a book, the End of the Century documentary is well worth your time.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 30 November 2018 01:39 (five years ago) link
Marky's book gives the best insight and is the best autobiography by quite a way. Dee Dee and Johnny's books were cool but much more limited and personal in completely different ways. Fans should read all three.
― everything, Friday, 30 November 2018 07:05 (five years ago) link
Watching the Anthony Bourdain episode called Lower East Side where he had a meal with Danny Fields has me listening to "Danny Says" (both the original and demo versions).
― curmudgeon, Friday, 30 November 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link
What about the documentary of the same title?
― My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link
Yes, that too
― curmudgeon, Friday, 30 November 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link
stumbled upon 'the job that ate my brain' from mondo bizarro the other day. a 1992 gem! huge production!
― meaulnes, Monday, 3 December 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link
Their sound was so streamlined and perfect.
Those first four albums are amazing. I may be alone in thinking Leave Home is the best of them (Leave Home > Ramones > Road To Ruin > Rocket To Russia), but they all sit together as a set, too. I recently came back to them after not having listened for years, and even their '80s stuff - albums like Too Tough To Die and Animal Boy - is shockingly strong.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 3 December 2018 00:33 (five years ago) link
The 70s set being topped off with "It's Alive", which also kicks ass.
For a band that had such a focus, they had more range in production and guitar sounds than one might expect. I love the first albums sound with the bass all up in the mix.
There are definitely lots of good nugget tunes on all of their records.
I loved and still love Acid Eaters which was their current LP when I saw the band. They have quite a few really ace covers. I think they do the best "Surfin' Bird" this side of the Trashmen original.
― earlnash, Monday, 3 December 2018 01:04 (five years ago) link
I didn't get to see them live until 1989 or 1990; CJ had just joined the band. They were amazing, though; I swear they played 40 songs in 75 minutes. The show was crazy violent, though, because the opening acts were GBH and Warzone. Lots of fights between old-school punk types and NYHawdCoah knuckle-walkers.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 3 December 2018 01:16 (five years ago) link
that they produced those four albums (plus It's Alive and End of the Century) in the space of barely more than three years is astounding, such a great hot streak, it rivals any other run of consistently great material in the ~history of rock~
― Neil S, Monday, 3 December 2018 08:57 (five years ago) link
1987 Ramones show I saw was the most crazy violent gig, too. They drew in a large array of outcasts with different expectations and altered states, not the typical HC pit.
― eva logorrhea (bendy), Monday, 3 December 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link
HI DERE
― Jeff Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link
No more of your fairy storiesCause I’ve got my own worries
― calstars, Sunday, 21 March 2021 01:51 (three years ago) link
“Dad what’s turn a trick?”
― calstars, Sunday, 21 March 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link
1974 performance kills
― calstars, Sunday, 21 March 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwsVWZ-c8Eo
I always wonder what that sounded like to people in '74.
― o. nate, Sunday, 21 March 2021 03:24 (three years ago) link
It sounded like a joke or novelty act to a lot of people, from what I've read.
― Citole Country (bendy), Sunday, 21 March 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
Good to see the onstage arguing between songs was not just a myth.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 March 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link
We do know for sure what it sounded like to Lou Reed in 1975.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-f2rz2G9AI
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Sunday, 21 March 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link
there’s also the “covers album” phase.
― calstars, Sunday, 21 March 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link
Ha, exactly
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 March 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link
I love that Lou Reed reaction so much...
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 22 March 2021 03:06 (three years ago) link
Classic or dud: Pete Davidson as Joey Ramone
We really should take a stab at rounding out the rest of the cast
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 April 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link
It's like they took the Adam Driver model of an awkward and gawky guy who is not considered traditionally handsome but has legions of female fans anyway and tried to map it onto Davidson but without the part about actually being good at acting.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 April 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link
Last (x) Movies you are going to Avoid
― edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Friday, 16 April 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link
Joey's hard to cast, he's so tall! That's probably Davidson's best attribute in terms of casting, he's only a few inches shorter.
Rami Malek might make a decent Dee Dee, with the right bangs.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 16 April 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link
Ideal casting for Dee Dee would be a younger Michael Shannon. Honestly he might still be able to pull it off.
― JRN, Friday, 16 April 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link
I love the Marones but have no interest in some shitty movie about them
― calstars, Friday, 16 April 2021 19:51 (three years ago) link
They should do it all CG.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 April 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link
OTM
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link
The first shot should be the cover of Road To Ruin.
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:04 (three years ago) link
I hope, a la the Taxi stuff in Man on the Moon, that there's a few scenes of them shooting Rock n' Roll High School with PJ Soles and Clint Howard reprising their roles as high school students.
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link
And Mary Woronov, of course.
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link
(This is where I reveal that I was shockingly old when I learned just now that PJ Soles is a decade older than Clint Howard, how is that even possible)
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link
Some kind of time loop, maybe?
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link
I've long found it comical that they were trying to pass off the balding and clearly almost middle-aged Howard as a teenager in movies such as RnRHS and Evilspeak but...he was actually in his early twenties at the time?!?Everything I thought I knew to be true...
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link
The Pate on the Edge of Forever
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link
Sorry
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:37 (three years ago) link
*ducks*
lol, yeah, I should've been able to put two and two together and realize that the kid from Star Trek didn't somehow age forty years between then and the late '70s but my brain, she does not always work so good.
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7MOseipVc8
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link
He's some kind of ageless wonder, really, nothing to apologize for.
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link
Davidson looks a lot more like Joey than he did Tom Zutaut.
― peace, man, Friday, 16 April 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link
Tranya trayna, we accept youWe accept you, one of us
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 April 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link