words with contradictory meanings

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anxious

Fantasy Eyelid (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link

how so

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link

contemporary means at the same time as, so probably gives the info from context whether its contemporary to the subject or contemporary to the present time doesn't it?

Stevolende, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

Yes - in fact that is the case with every word listed here!

However, "Contemporary art" does not change its meaning depending on context as far as I'm aware

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

incense as a noun vs. incense as a verb

Choose Your Own Disaster (Old Lunch), Saturday, 23 February 2019 20:25 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

sensibility

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 March 2019 13:57 (five years ago) link

OL i will confess that i can't puzzle out your last three contributions itt

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 March 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/anxious

makes the anxious one quite clear - worried / eager

koogs, Monday, 18 March 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link

id have to disagree with ascribing intent to the word like that tbh

to whom does one write

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Monday, 18 March 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link

The two usages of 'incense' aren't directly contradictory but the noun has a pleasant connotation (generally speaking, as I know not everyone is a nag champa stan) as opposed to the negative connotation of the verb form.

OTOH I probably should've said 'sensible' (reasonable vs. given over to feeling) rather than 'sensibility'.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 March 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link

Brexit

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 18 March 2019 16:35 (five years ago) link

ha

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Monday, 18 March 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link

anxious meaning "eager" - yes but there's still anxiety in that negative sense - the eagerness is manifesting as a kind of nervous stress

incense - at root it's the same: fieriness

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 09:48 (five years ago) link

"bottle" in the British sense has two directly contradictory meanings. the noun means "courage" and the verb means to lose your nerve!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 09:49 (five years ago) link

checks out

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 10:04 (five years ago) link

"but what about the Irish sense" i hear you seething

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 10:55 (five years ago) link

Does the verb form suggesting violence done with a bottle entail more courage or cowardice, I wonder

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 11:55 (five years ago) link

More contents of bottles usually

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:16 (five years ago) link

"dutch courage" originally referred to that nationality's predilection to glassing in an otherwise honourable brawl

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:21 (five years ago) link

(trivia 100% false obv)

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:21 (five years ago) link

Dutch = gin in that context i reckon

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:22 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Patron - the owner or a customer of a restaurant.

fetter, Friday, 28 February 2020 10:41 (four years ago) link

Does the verb form suggesting violence done with a bottle entail more courage or cowardice, I wonder

It's rhyming slang: "bottle & glass" = class (I think), as in to have class (as a fighter); so to lose one's bottle, to bottle it.

fetter, Friday, 28 February 2020 10:45 (four years ago) link

fix

Paperbag raita (ledge), Friday, 28 February 2020 10:56 (four years ago) link

labour

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:17 (four years ago) link

"Terribly" can mean very well or very badly.

She's terribly educated vs She was terribly educated

fetter, Friday, 28 February 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link

gonna need a stewards enquiry on labour.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Friday, 28 February 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link

fix

As in "in a fix" = having problems?

fetter, Friday, 28 February 2020 17:33 (four years ago) link

yep. brought to my attention by a line in a children's book, "I'll sort your monster fix".

Paperbag raita (ledge), Friday, 28 February 2020 18:10 (four years ago) link

It's rhyming slang: "bottle & glass" = class (I think), as in to have class (as a fighter); so to lose one's bottle, to bottle it.

I thought it was "bottle and glass" = arse (it works in a Cockney accent), so losing your bottle means to shit yourself?

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Friday, 28 February 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link

funky

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Friday, 28 February 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link

contranym

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 28 February 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link

sanction

Fizzles, Friday, 28 February 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link

OP otm

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 February 2020 05:30 (four years ago) link

Missing from this list afaict:
ravel

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 February 2020 05:33 (four years ago) link

sick

Lee626, Saturday, 29 February 2020 13:02 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

sound

budo jeru, Sunday, 22 March 2020 19:34 (four years ago) link

string

budo jeru, Saturday, 28 March 2020 19:19 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

dust

budo jeru, Thursday, 12 November 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

nice one!

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 12 November 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

then again, if you’d change the lyrics of the Kansas hit to “all we do is dust in the wind”, it wouldn’t change the meaning of the song at all

kiss some penis reference (breastcrawl), Saturday, 14 November 2020 09:59 (three years ago) link

gallant

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 14 November 2020 11:47 (three years ago) link

previously meant “sexually forward” i.e. a man motivated by trying to get into ladies’ knickers and was basically negative

then became a bit of a catch-all for “courageous”, not just in carnal matters

then the honorable side of courage rubbed off on it, but the previous association with behaviour towards women remained, so magically “gallant” now means “chivalrous” - previously its exact antonym!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 14 November 2020 11:55 (three years ago) link

Same etymon as 'well' (e.g. 'well-being') and the Gallo-Roman 'walare', which meant 'to chill' (figuratively, that is). The ancestors had their priorities straight.

pomenitul, Saturday, 14 November 2020 13:20 (three years ago) link

Along the same lines: 'to host' could also mean 'to lodge at an inn' back in the day. Its ambiguity subsists in the French 'hôte', which denotes both guest and host depending on the context. Nor is a host in the military sense a welcome guest in most cases, but it's not an exact antonym either.

pomenitul, Saturday, 14 November 2020 13:24 (three years ago) link

Speaking of French, it also features a number of spectacular diachronic reversals: 'rem' (Latin accusative of 'res', i.e. 'thing') eventually became 'rien' (nothing).

From most to least obsolete, the nouns 'mie' (the soft part of bread), 'goutte' (drop (of liquid)), 'point' (self-explanatory) and 'pas' (step) double as adverbs that mean 'not' (e.g. 'je (ne) peux pas'). Presumably 'ne' or 'n'' on their own (as in 'on n'y voit goutte') are too puny to bear the mighty weight of negation.

pomenitul, Saturday, 14 November 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

fain

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 April 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

Definition of fain (Entry 1 of 2)
1a : WILLING
he was very fain, for the young widow was "altogether fair and lovely … "
— Amy Kelly
b : being obliged or constrained : COMPELLED
Great Britain was fain to devote its whole energy … to the business of slaying and being slain
— G. M. Trevelyan

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 April 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

"performative" seems to have developed a couple of almost opposite meanings, not sure which definition came first

nothing (Left), Friday, 2 April 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link


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