The Ballad of Buster Scruggs - Coen Brothers Netflix series turned portmanteau movie

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jfc

Frederik B, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link

Do u know what a settler is

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

apparently not

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link

I thought this was great! I'm surprised so many of yall are down on it. Way, way better than Hail Caesar--low bar, I know

Dan I., Tuesday, 27 November 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

I liked Hail Caesar too :(

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 18:30 (five years ago) link

I was gonna say!

sleeve, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link

I liked Hail Caesar a lot but it's one of their four worst

I thought this was great! I'm surprised so many of yall are down on it.

updating this:

summary of opinions expressed so far:

inconsequential
terrible
kind of loved it
love it?
fucking loved it
garbage
fun

so, one can see a consensus starting to emerge here, if one stands across the room, is drunk, and squints very hard

• this is brilliant.
• liked this quite a lot.
• This thread has not yet dampened my anticipation
• I enjoyed all of these, except for Meal Ticket
• I've had the Surly Joe song stuck in my head for the last two days
• brilliant genre satire [...] unnerving meta-commentary [...] varying degrees of good to very good. [...] beautifully shot
• diverting
• this was so good
• I also loved it. Giving owl looks to the haters.
• This is excellent. My fave Cohens since "A Serious Man".
• [1/6th of the film] kind of dragged for me.
• looked good and moved swiftly
• I loved this! [...] a lot of good whistling-past-the-graveyard humor [...] excellent & really well studied. [...] so good
• the use of place was excellent
• (genre "Indians") were dehumanized and demonized perils, existing to drive the plot.
• I've been enjoying them as bleak little Coen-y fables.
• You thought this was great!

Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link

I didn't really like the bookending segments, which were too glib and inscrutable*, respectively. Other than that they were all great, particulary the freakshow/prospector/wagon train triptych.

*Glibness and inscrutability being qualities I've forgiven the bros for many times in the past.

chap, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link

the final one scrutes a lot better on second viewing

Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link

I liked all of these except the freak show one, which spun its wheels for what seemed like a good ten minutes

sleeve, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

...to haunting effect, I felt.

chap, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

that's fair, it was beautifully shot

sleeve, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link

i liked the freakshow one mostly because it sparked my curiosity so much with so much unsaid, ie the relationship backstory btw neeson & dudley dursley characters — the nature of his talents & whether he is able to speak conversationally ie is he too afraid of neeson to speak or does he only know these rote speeches & that’s all

etc

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 00:23 (five years ago) link

I just posted this on fb, but I'll throw it to the wolves here too.

In 'All Gold Canyon,' the stranger/claim jumper who shot Tom Waits' prospector in the back was actually a leprechaun protecting his "pot o' gold," y/n?

He's wearing all green, he's appears out of nowhere, and he doesn't act with any urgency to collect the gold Waits found. He, instead, smokes a cigarette calmly and sits down like "got another one."

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 01:15 (five years ago) link

Interesting! That was the segment based on a Jack London story (which I haven't read, but now want to) so it'll be interesting (though not necessarily conclusive) to see how that all plays out in the source material.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 01:19 (five years ago) link

I didn't bring it up before because my thinking was "oh, that's so obvious that no one's even bothering to talk about it," but then a week went by and no one even mentioned it as even a tossed off theory. So I just watched that segment for the second time and I'm absolutely sure of it.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 01:27 (five years ago) link

I know that Jack London story and it is excellent, especially his portrayal of the psychology of the lone prospector and the methodical way he proceeds to work the hillside to locate the pocket.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 01:27 (five years ago) link

I just skimmed the text of the Jack London story. They really stuck close to the source material, but I still think they added an extra twist between the lines where they were allowed the room to do so.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 01:40 (five years ago) link

uh huh...

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 02:47 (five years ago) link

Did you rewatch it yet?? You're a hard sell.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

i’m all for magical realism but this isn’t that imo

if a leprechaun makes sense to you then ok, you do you, but for me this story is a+ sans lep

i don’t buy that the coens, excellent writers in their own right, would take this dark & simple *jack london* story & say, you know what this needs? a leprechaun.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 04:04 (five years ago) link

Are people defending “a meal ticket”? Because that was bottom-barrel for them.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:23 (five years ago) link

a fucking leprechaun. Words fail me

Number None, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 07:57 (five years ago) link

it is not a leprechaun

Clay, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 08:02 (five years ago) link

hahahaha

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link

sleep, that's where I'm a leprechaun (very crafty and gold-loving, not an actual leprechaun)

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link

“a meal ticket”? Because that was bottom-barrel for them.

bold call for filmmakers that have a remake of The Ladykillers starring Tom Hanks in a facemerkin on their resume, plus Crimewave

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link

Kid was wearing green, hence leprechaun.

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

leprechauns roll their own

Death comes sweeping through the hallway. Thank you, Death. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link

So how do you explain the colorful marshmallows he kept finding in the stream?

Evan, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

...?

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:21 (five years ago) link

sorry for huge image

sleeve, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link

Kid was wearing green

Just appeared, and did so immediately after gold had been found.

If it hadn't been a gold story, I probably wouldn't have even thought much about the fact his entire wardrobe was deep, dark green and that his hat was also green with a gold band on it. But it is and those things are.

Anyway, I'm not gonna evangelize about this theory, but the Coens have done FAR cornier things.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 November 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link

FP'd sleeve, Evan, and the USA as a whole

upvoting Johnny Fever because it would be hilarious if true

sans lep (sic), Thursday, 29 November 2018 01:21 (five years ago) link

lol I accept your FP with apologies

sleeve, Thursday, 29 November 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link

I was just being goofy I don’t actually have strong feelings about leprechaun theories

Evan, Thursday, 29 November 2018 02:34 (five years ago) link

i rest my case

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 November 2018 04:45 (five years ago) link

Watched this hungover on the couch the weekend it was released and was consistently surprised, entertained, and depressed. Came away with “Yeah, that was pretty solid.”

But tbh I’ve been thinking about one or more of these stories almost every day since then. It’s haunted me. Need a rewatch, but rolling around in my brain it’s the best thing they’ve done since A Serious Man.

circa1916, Thursday, 29 November 2018 05:04 (five years ago) link

i feel the same way

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 November 2018 06:03 (five years ago) link

I wonder if there’s something more intimate and weird (and therefore memorable) about experiencing this Coen movie at home rather than in the cinema

Obvs I don’t think it would’ve made The Ladykillers better. But the combination of big US landscapes + my small TV was unsettling rather than lessening.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 29 November 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link

loved this

Mordy, Thursday, 6 December 2018 04:16 (five years ago) link

were you guys also bothered by how buster scruggs managed to be such an amazing shot, and how the chicken could do math

i think the chicken did math w/ the bell they'd ring it probably when it was near the right number or something like that - counting animals are all over vaudeville + side show history

Mordy, Thursday, 6 December 2018 04:25 (five years ago) link

1. the gal who got rattled
2. meal ticket
3. the ballad of buster scruggs
4. all gold canyon
5. near algodones
6. the mortal remains

overall thought this was ok. it looked really nice and had some good acting but it didn't really hit me.

na (NA), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:06 (five years ago) link

this felt so thin and nothingy. some of the photography and scenery was really beautiful, but the stories were really inconsequential

single bed mentality (||||||||), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:08 (five years ago) link

i agree - a few got by on pathos or novelty but the rest felt thin

na (NA), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link

near algodones felt like they came up with the "first time?" line and worked backwards (though stephen root was funny)

na (NA), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link

I don't think these were "nothingy" at all. Felt maybe similarly during watching like "just ending with that huh" and then you're right on to the next one, but they sit well in memory and have more meat on their bones than might be immediately apparent.

circa1916, Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link

That guy sure looked like a leprechaun to me

Οὖτις, Saturday, 8 December 2018 18:30 (five years ago) link

1. Leprechauns are little men. It's kind of their defining characteristic
2. Leprechauns do not wield guns
3. Leprechauns are creatures of Irish myth. Why would you put one in a film dealing with classic Western tropes?

Number None, Saturday, 8 December 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link


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