GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

that is a great list she does rule

― old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Monday, November 26, 2018 6:16 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

casting the wrong race of baby too perfect lol

she couldn't even get her OWN character's ethnicity correct!

Thot every1 knew she did molest her kid sister wth

wth wht?

wudk???

endless articles about her and white woman feminism. I think a lot of groups, especially right now, don't want to be associated with her.

Apparently she shared the stage in a co-speech with Ugly Betty star America Ferrera. Who could forget

the "molested her sister" thing is for 4chan teens bud

girls was good. lena dunham is a too broadly drawn caricature of white liberal feminism

from her book:

‘As she grew, I took to bribing her time and affection: one dollar in quarters if I could do her makeup like a “motorcycle chick.” Three pieces of candy if I could kiss her on the lips for five seconds. Whatever she wanted to watch on TV if she would just “relax on me.” Basically, anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl, I was trying.’

i believe lena was either 14 or 16 at the time, her little sister is 6 years younger

can we stop misgendering Grace Dunham while we're relitigating this

this is so fucking stupid

I hate the 2010s

best years of my life tbqh

I don't hate her, I think she is a talented but underbaked writer and i probably just wouldn't have given her another thought for at least the rest of 2018 had this thread not been bumped. But I don't think there's any doubt that she gets a disproportionate amount of media attention compared to the sliver of her generation, or any other, that actually gives a shit about her let alone thinks she's some kind of avatar, and that's not just because conservatives made her a target.

Social media is not her friend.

social media is mob justice that brought trump to power

Oh, I meant her oversharing on social media is not helping her health.

probably, yeah.

i just meant i am fatigued with the current impulse to divide the righteous from the wicked all the time. she is just an individual person in my mind. critique her, sure, but the failures of like, all privileged feminists shouldn't be hung around her neck all the time. this kind of censure bothers me. you get to a ridiculous situation where people are ready to believe anything about someone, even that she molested her sister, because she made some offensive comments about odell beckham once.

or to a less extreme extent, that she faked a dog bite. like, what?

Treeship, your prewoke period must be a slaughterhouse

i never even got that woke dude. i'm obviously a man of the left but i don't go in for the whole discourse.

thread is making me regret not going to see Lena’s incredibly brief appearance campaigning for Hillary in Des Moines

it was at a popular store that prints whimsical or sarcastic things on t-shirts

can we finally fucking ban infinity

What confused me about Lena and "Girls" was that it seemed to me to be such a perfect representation of my own experiences in coming to NYC in my early 20s (2002-2006) and doing I-guess-typical things like listening to Magnetic Fields in the car ride down and then going to MisShapes and The Metropolitan and reading Blue States Lose and Gawker with a hangover the next day, and all the characters on that show had that exact balance of energy and cavalier selfishness that I'd come to associate with NYC-dwellers in their 20s and I was surprised that other people didn't watch that show and feel the same bizarre sudden recognition

can we finally fucking ban infinity

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, November 26, 2018 4:31 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Makin u a mod when I make my own ilx someday

xpost I lived in williamsburg 2003-2013/14? I think a lot of the williamsburg/greenpoint people from that time frame liked Girls ( I mean I smashed my hand bloody in Grumpy's heavy ass door and an ilxor adjacent did the costumes for the show) but then you know, people moved on, grew up. She seems like she didn't.

it came out before i moved to new york but, in hindsight, i agree with that. a lot of it rang true. especially how the characters talk about their own lives--everything is part of a dramatic narrative. there are so many people around, so many big personalities, and it sometimes seem like you have to fight, with yourself, for a sense of identity.

basically the narcissism/self-involvement of the characters that so many people have noted seemed, to me, seem to come from a kind of desperation that i associate with new york. (it's not exclusive to new york, though obviously.) anyway, i thought it was the strongest aspect of the writing.

associate it with americans tbh

fair

Lena and said costumer Oberlin folk too yerac.

yeah, i know. I almost called dan selzer to thread.

Ok love you guys but lol @ responding to criticism of girls for being too narcissistic and myopic with “it perfectly represented my experience and I was shocked that not everyone felt that way.” Honest but still funny.

lol

it's kind of amazing how much attention she's gotten and continues to get six and a half years after Girls premiered. that list is nuts. I love the half-kidding suggestion by the author that Lena Dunham's whole life is a performance piece.

yea that list is outstanding shes an icon

there's something weird where i find her annoying or whatever but also find the virulent reactions to her to be annoying

my man

yes

it's fascinating though how volatile the persona, whatever she represents, is - because the article also (accurately) positions her as nobody's daughter: find me someone who loves Lena Dunham's work & persona without reservation. there's also something to the Groundhog Day aspect, it's the same conversation every time. and people go off! still! I get it of course, the Cut profile is wild even for her.

Dunham begins to remove her hoops and gold rings. “This is what I do right before my naps. I take off my jewels. I get ready to snug out,” she says, gently dismissing me so she can get back into bed.

I also do that

who doesn't?

Snugs out with a gravity blanket. At least that's what I overheard her saying when I had breakfast at the Hollywood Diner on 6th ave one table behind her and Gillian Jacbos a few weeks ago.

https://kgw.me/track/like-lena-dunham

“She looked like Lena Dunham…

…but nobody could tell.
They just don't know her work that well
outside of London.

So all references fail.
She's just another white female –
but it's Lena Dunham!

What, they can't subtitle her show?
I mean it's hardly hyperlocal,
though Lena Dunham

desires not to be universal.
Someone should let her editors know.
Heyo!

“I built an empire out of blood and sweat
and life's little disconnects,
and I ain't finished yet.

I've dealt with my fair share of ignorance
So what's the difference?
I mean, in a bigger sense,

I could be a shitty neighbor or a brilliant fence,
like Lena Dunham.

I thought I had a story to tell.
Now I think maybe I don't.
But also, ‘Hey, what the hell?
What's life but suffering?

I guess she just looks like anyone else.
I mean, I kind of look like her myself –
who, Lena Dunham?!

Oh God I actually totally do!
And wait a minute, why am I totally nude
like Lena Dunham?!

I feel like this could be misconstrued.
I should probably read a few interviews
with Lena Dunham

and learn about her cultural baggage.
I mean, I'm not a fucking savage!
To wit:

“I watched the liquid dribble down my chest,
feeling powerless,
wondering ‘God, what next,

another thousand hours of profound regret?
Perhaps a breakdown on set,
or just a pound of flesh

for the dogs or the press?
Or just a long slog to my death?
There must be somethin'...

...if I had a mind like an elephant,
maybe I could fly like a god-damned pelican.
Like, “Hey, I'm just being playfully irreverent
kinda like the time i went on Letterman on mescaline and dexedrine!

So I look a little like a lesbian.
So I read a little too much into instant messages.
So I have a voice and an agenda and I'm not afraid to leverage them.
So I'm belletristic and ephemerally relevant –

everybody knows:
no one cares which way the wind blows
until it fucks them.

And in the end, the love you steal
has no connection to what you feel,
like
Lena
Dunham.”

https://io9.com/dear-woman-hating-comic-store-employees-eat-a-bowl-of-1582628453

Ehh, slow clap gif

is there no complete series boxset of Girls?

Everyone who'd buy a Girls box set already has HBO Now.

Though commentary tracks with Dunham would be priceless.