Really liked The Conformist but that's about it (The Dreamers is about Eva Green or whoever you think is hot in that). I should try and catch Spider's Strategem one day. From a few screen shots it looks really good.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 November 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link
Yeah, you should try to see that. Based on a Borges story, but you probably already know that.
― Gottseidank, es ist Blecch Freitag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 November 2018 14:33 (five years ago) link
He never matched The Conformist but every film until 1980 is worth watching.
― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link
TSS, yes, and I'm taken with Before the Revolution.
― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link
Yeah later stuff reminds of that dusty old quote from John Grierson -sees mark s coming, *ducks*- (about von Sternberg!) “When a director dies, he becomes a photographer.”
― Gottseidank, es ist Blecch Freitag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 November 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link
I did see Tragedy of a Ridiculous Man as noted above and really liked it. It'll show again in NYC at MoMA's upcoming Ugo Tognazzi series.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 November 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link
On my FB wall is a fascinating discussion of Bertolucci's self-admitted bisexuality and how it barely manifests itself in his films.
― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link
does it? in terms of going up to the precipice, The Conformist and The Dreamers seem to have a bi eye. (also Keanu sitting under the tree of life)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 November 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
The Dreamers scurries away after one footsie scene.
― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link
I never developed any attachment to him: The Last Emperor is a fine entry in a genre I just don’t care much for, but The Dreamers was pretty bad (despite the Louis Garrel nudity). I need to catch up with Last Tango in Paris and The Conformist; nothing else in his filmography looks at all interesting to me.
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Monday, 26 November 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link
I like The Spider's Strategem and Little Buddha (yes) best.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, August 6, 2004 1
(adding Tragedy of a Ridic Man)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 November 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link
you like Keanu best
― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link
I Sidd-hart-ha him
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 November 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
Tragedy of a Horny Man.
― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link
This repartee is sparkling!
― Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Monday, 26 November 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link
Last three posts have been the gayest three posts in a row
― F# A# (∞), Monday, 26 November 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link
since when? the last All About Eve hommage?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 November 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link
I detest cheap sentiment.
― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
^beating a dead martini
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 November 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link
You're obviously not a woman.
― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link
Classic 'Some Italian guy's just died, anyone know anything about him? No?' stuff from the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2018/11/26/last-tango-paris-director-bernardo-bertoluccidies-aged-77/
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 01:28 (five years ago) link
I say Bertolucci's career remains a case study in how age withers engagement if an artist lets it.
― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 01:39 (five years ago) link
He benefited enormously from his relationship with cinematographer Vittorio Storaro, who is arguably the more outstanding talent of the duo.
― Sanpaku, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link
Current links:
https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/6071-the-knotty-legacy-of-bernardo-bertolucci
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link
This, by @szacharek, is the best piece I have read on Bernardo Bertolucci's legacy, and a searching, truly thoughtful piece of criticism. https://t.co/07NuKrY1D5— Mark Harris (@MarkHarrisNYC) November 29, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 November 2018 17:14 (five years ago) link
I was about to link to it.
― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link
I wish she'd mentioned the later films besides TLE and The Dreamers but a fine piece.
― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link
Terrific piece.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link
I watched his first feature, La commare secca, last night and it's pretty good (murder of a prostitute, quasi-Rashomon style). The producer had a Pasolini scenario that PPP didn't have time to make, so he and his co-writer were told "Write it like Pasolini," who had made only Accatone at that point. (BB had been an assistant on that one)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link
also it's not really a "rip" of Rashomon in that, unless I missed something, the different segments don't show contradictory events.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link
Something I would definitely watch:
https://variety.com/2021/tv/global/last-tango-in-paris-making-of-series-1235120987/
I was thinking someone might play Kael, but she figures in after-the-fact.
― clemenza, Monday, 29 November 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link
In a Twitter thread about this, someone says "This seems immoral..."
Depicting unpleasant history is now inherently immoral?
― clemenza, Monday, 29 November 2021 23:18 (two years ago) link
I Love Film...Think I'll move this to another thread.
― clemenza, Monday, 29 November 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link
Last Tango in Paris was kind of boring in the end
Robert de Niro and Gerard Depardieu were very hot in 1900
― Dan S, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 01:46 (two years ago) link
The Last Emperor is tedious, I want to go back to Last Tango in Paris or 1900. Still have to see The Conformist
― Dan S, Saturday, 8 January 2022 02:31 (two years ago) link
The Spider's Strategem and The Conformist are his two best; he never made a terrible film, but even as early as 1900 he was beginning to slide. I'm a fan of many cerebral artists but I think Bertolucci second-guessed himself into a creative impasse.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 8 January 2022 02:55 (two years ago) link