The 2018 end of the year music lists thread

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Roy Kinsey just performed at the Subterranean Friday night. Maybe I'll catch him in January at Steppenwolf.

The FOPP list pushed Kamasi to the top, and Idles to #4. I like what Idles' Joe Talbot said about my top post-punk album in MOJO: "The best thing I heard all year was easily Bambara and their album Shadow On Everything. [Singer/lyricist] Reid Bateh brings this savage realism but the noir-ish depth of the music takes you away on Birthday Party-type vibes. I just love everything they do - and I think they're one of the best live acts I've ever seen. They're from Atlanta, Georgia but based in Brooklyn. They're violent and passionate, interested and interesting and good-looking, and they're much cooler than we are."

Other artist recommendations:
Kim Deal/Breeders - 1080dB single
Shabaka Hutchings - Kojey Radical, D Double E, Ghetts
Stephen Malkmus - This Is The Kit, C.C.T.V., ILL

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 25 November 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link

Gary Numan - Görkem Sen
Ryley Walker - Ben LaMar Gay

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 25 November 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link

An interesting simultaneous trend I’m noticing in these lists is

1) a definite move towards a more “personal”, less faux-objective generalist dilletante’s attempt to cover “everything good” and more of an attempt to create a specific relative aesthetic (and it seems like a conscious effort to make that aesthetic heterodox at the same time, rather than culturally monolithic) — this is, fwiw, my preferred way of engaging with lists

2) the second edge of that sword is there’s definitely been a backing away from populism (a dirty word in a political sense bleeding over into this one?), from “trash culture,” from poptimism, moving towards a kind of tastefulness, respectability, aesthetic conservatism, art that exists in a kind of private, undisputable space... like critics have in response to the broader cultural arguments, become more conflict-averse

This is a trend I’ve noticed over the last few years and obviously i don’t know many of the artists mentioned in the above lists so someone can tell me if I’m way way off but it feels right

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 25 November 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link

^^I’ve never heard of most of the stuff on these lists, so this sounds right to me...

my guitar friend wants his money (morrisp), Sunday, 25 November 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link

I hope that’s the trend because otherwise 2018 is the year I’m officially old.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 25 November 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link

I’ve also never heard of most of these publications or blogs or whatever... I’m assuming that Pitchfork and Rolling Stone’s lists will be more “populist” (i.e., feature albums/artists I’ve actually heard of)?

my guitar friend wants his money (morrisp), Sunday, 25 November 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link

(NB – I’ve heard of Time magazine, and their list illustrates my point)

my guitar friend wants his money (morrisp), Sunday, 25 November 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link

2) the second edge of that sword is there’s definitely been a backing away from populism (a dirty word in a political sense bleeding over into this one?), from “trash culture,” from poptimism, moving towards a kind of tastefulness, respectability, aesthetic conservatism, art that exists in a kind of private, undisputable space... like critics have in response to the broader cultural arguments, become more conflict-averse

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40)

i think of this in the sense that i've read about russian aestheticism, in particular the thing about being apolitical being a political act... i don't know if there's a russian world for "self-care" but things there long ago reached a point where engaging politically became both futile and immensely self-destructive. the post-hippie era in america had the same sort of disillusioned disengagement, which was roundly denounced by the political radicals at the time (before the political radicals all wound up killing themselves).

dub pilates (rushomancy), Sunday, 25 November 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link

I haven't heard of many of these artists/publications, but it's been that way for a few years now. At peace with it.

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 25 November 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link

I’ve also never heard of most of these publications or blogs or whatever... I’m assuming that Pitchfork and Rolling Stone’s lists will be more “populist” (i.e., feature albums/artists I’ve actually heard of)?

― my guitar friend wants his money (morrisp), Sunday, November 25, 2018 1:07 PM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

To be clear I’m partly looking at this through the stuff that I *do* know on these lists & all the stuff I’m seeing excluded

I’m sure mainstream mags will include more pop but i feel like there was way more consensus earlier years among these smaller pubs when it came to ie rap music (cf the year everyone decided Lil b was a genius or w/e)

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 25 November 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link

There are countless bands doing what RBCF (who are good though) and Parquet Courts (who are not good) do but yeah those two have publicity and labels and money behind them so you're gonna see them on these lists and not, say, the Goon Sax or the Woolen Men or whatever.

charlie brown from outta town (GM), Sunday, 25 November 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link

The Parquet Courts album seemed to get a lot of positive press when it came out, but I’m wondering if list-makers will have come to their senses in the cold light of December.

my guitar friend wants his money (morrisp), Sunday, 25 November 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link

This PQ album the first one of theirs where I actively felt non-plussed, and just couldn't grasp the hype at all.

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 25 November 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link

That’s insane. Wide Awake is my favorite record of the year easy

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 25 November 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link

I mean, it's great that you like it and others do too! (Not mad, not everything's for me obviously.) It's just not the sound I come to this band for at all. Did kinda like the first single though.

Interesting to see that people really are into the lyrical content. This record is teaching me that to some extent - at this point in my life anyway - the music has to sell me before the words register, and the music isn't getting there.

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 25 November 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link

Wide Awake! is their best album, IMO.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 25 November 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link

Whatever man, you love CHVRCHES.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 25 November 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link

It'll be interesting to see if Cardi B tops a lot of album lists.

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 25 November 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link

I think the lyrics sound like a Twitter feed I wouldn’t care to follow, but to each their own (per Raymond, if I liked the songs otherwise, I wouldn’t care).

my guitar friend wants his money (morrisp), Sunday, 25 November 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link

(wouldn’t mind the lyrix)

my guitar friend wants his money (morrisp), Sunday, 25 November 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

Whatever man, you love CHVRCHES.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, November 25, 2018 9:11 PM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well, I'm certainly not going to deny this. They also released a very good record this year.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 25 November 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

thanks 2 Fastnbulbous for helping me get a head start on sorting through all this stuff. it's so stressful trying to cram for the january ilm exam. this year i'm getting a head start!

budo jeru, Sunday, 25 November 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link

parquet courts so so boring imho

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 26 November 2018 08:50 (five years ago) link

I’m sure mainstream mags will include more pop but i feel like there was way more consensus earlier years among these smaller pubs when it came to ie rap music (cf the year everyone decided Lil b was a genius or w/e)

I also feel like there was a lot more rap in general on most other lists from earlier this decade. It feels like we've reached a bit of a saturation point, and the quality of music has suffered - I think rap in 2018 will be remember for everything except for the quality of music released. I made a similar point in another thread, but it really felt like this year was the first time in a while that the worst excesses that the genre is capable of (pointless deaths, beefs, too much low effort music, style over substance) pushed creativity and interesting music out of the spotlight. Undeniable that it remains the most popular pop idiom, but aside from a couple of releases, I haven't really enjoyed too much rap from this year.

triggercut, Monday, 26 November 2018 10:11 (five years ago) link

eh i think there's some truth to the idea that everything feels saturated & it might take longer than usual to sort out what's really sustained from this year but there are plenty of dope projects out IMO -- they just failed to generate any real critical consensus

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 26 November 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link

xpost what a silly argument

Tim F, Monday, 26 November 2018 10:31 (five years ago) link

Without wanting to start handwringing about how algorithms are killing pop music or whatever, we're now at the stage where the artists that are the most popular, the most trashy, are also the ones whose careers are the most dependent on streaming. As a result they've either become less album-centric or or the albums themselves have become way too baggy and undefined. The Cardi B album felt like it struck the perfect balance there but I haven't heard too many others that have nailed it like that.

Matt DC, Monday, 26 November 2018 10:38 (five years ago) link

Which is my way of saying that it sort of stands to reason that the albums lists are coalescing around a kind of middlebrow worthiness best encapsulated by that Fopp list, and that more places should be doing tracks lists.

Matt DC, Monday, 26 November 2018 10:39 (five years ago) link

I know bloat has been an off-and-on problem with hip-hop albums for decades now but this did seem like a particularly bloated year with artists trying to game the streaming charts by putting out these behemoth records like Drake, Rae Sremmurd, Wayne, and of course every permutation of Migos. and this is always a push-and-pull for me when it comes to ranking, like I am always going to gravitate towards ranking an album higher when it has 10 tracks and 7 of them are good as opposed to it having like 22 tracks and 9 of them are good. which is at least a little weird because the latter album did have more good songs so I'm basically just punishing it for making me skip tracks a bunch.

evol j, Monday, 26 November 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

BBC 6 Music Albums

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5b2YkzSbF7wfvDxL0SR9fdS/6-music-recommends-albums-of-the-year-2018
https://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/1026-bbc-radio-6-musics-albums-of-the-year-2018/

10. She Drew The Gun - Revolution of the Mind
9. The Orielles - Silver Dollar Moment
8. Sons of Kemet - Your Queen is a Reptile
7. Beak> - >>>
6. Gabe Gurnsey - Physical
5. Low - Double Negative
4. Arctic Monkeys - Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino
3. Kamasi Washington - Heaven and Earth
2. Khruangbin - Con Todo El Mundo
1. Idles - Joy as an Act of Resistance

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 26 November 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link

Glide 20 best albums (unranked)

https://glidemagazine.com/217222/the-glide-20-glides-20-best-albums-of-2018/
https://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/1028-glides-20-best-albums-of-2018/

Becky Warren - Undesirable
Caroline Rose - Loner
Colter Wall - Songs of the Plains
Courtney Marie Andrews - May Your Kindness Remain
Erika Wennerstrom - Sweet Unknown
Frank Turner - Be More Kind
Ghost - Prequelle
Glorietta - Glorietta
Israel Nash - Lifted
Jonathan Wilson - Rare Birds
King Tuff - The Other
Parquet Courts - Wide Awake!
R+R=NOW - Collagically Speaking
Rainbow Kitten Surprise - How To: Friend, Love, Freefall
Shannon & The Clams - Onion
The James Hunter Six - Whatever It Takes
The Marcus King Band - Carolina Confessions
The Wood Brothers - One Drop Of Truth
Trampled By Turtles - Life is Good on the Open Road
Wayne Shorter - Emanon

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 26 November 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link

Revolver's 30 Best Albums of 2018

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/30-best-albums-2018
https://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/1027-revolvers-30-best-albums-of-2018/

30. At The Gates - To Drink From The Night Itself
29. The Black Queen - Infinite Games
28. Underøath - Erase Me
27. Tribulation - Down Below
26. ZillaKami & SosMula - City Morgue Vol. 1: Hell Or High Water
25. CANDY - Good To Feel
24. Horrendous - Idol
23. Emma Ruth Rundle - On Dark Horses
22. Old Wounds - Glow
21. Ghostemane - N / O / I / S / E
20. YOB - Our Raw Heart
19. Tomb Mold - Manor of Infinite Forms
18. Cane Hill - Too Far Gone
17. Harm's Way - Posthuman
16. Nothing - Dance on the Blacktop
15. High on Fire - Electric Messiah
14. Kælan Mikla - Nott eftir nott
13. Pig Destroyer - Head Cage
12. Deafheaven - Ordinary Corrupt Human Love
11. Cult Leader - A Patient Man
10. A Perfect Circle - Eat the Elephant
9. Gouge Away - Burnt Sugar
8. Behemoth - I Loved You at Your Darkest
7. The Soft Moon - Criminal
6. Zeal and Ardor - Stranger Fruit
5. Sleep - The Sciences
4. Judas Priest - Firepower
3. Turnstile - Time & Space
2. Vein - Errorzone
1. Ghost - Prequelle

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 26 November 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link

I've definitely heard the guys at the Ringer banging on about RBCF for a few years so I figured they'd make some lists when they released a full length. ilm reaction to them here no surprise of course.

President Keyes, Monday, 26 November 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link

hey here's Paste's list

charlie brown from outta town (GM), Monday, 26 November 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link

That Revolver list is pretty interesting. I like Tribulation, Ghostemane, High On Fire, The Soft Moon, Judas Priest, and Ghost, and I'm checking out the Kælan Mikla record now; it's kinda dark synthwavey post-punk. I'm into it.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 26 November 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link

the Vein album is super fun if you can deal with some bro-y heft in your metal, like a slightly more melodic Code Orange. Emma Ruth Rundle is an inspired inclusion

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

Paste list hits almost every irritating mark it could have. Stand by, I'm going to develop a theory about this

imago, Monday, 26 November 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

paste's no. 1 (lucy dacus historian) is a fucking amazing album at least

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

placing the decemberists at 15 is sort of a "what, did you run out of good albums" choice though

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

lol before I even clicked the link I thought, "Lucy Dacus is probably number one."

President Keyes, Monday, 26 November 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

US Girls, Camp Cope, Caroline Rose, Haley Heynderickx and a bunch of other stuff I like on there too

President Keyes, Monday, 26 November 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

gonna really have to stump for Natalie Prass in the ILM poll cause her consistent snubbing in these lists is upsetting

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link

everyone fronting that TFS didn't toss all the rest of Australian indie into a blender this year is basically an ideological enemy of mine

imago, Monday, 26 November 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link

They might end up as my #1 tbh. are there any Aussie-centric lists out yet?

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link

Definitely top 5 material as far as I'm concerned.

pomenitul, Monday, 26 November 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link

idk i want to find a non-asshole way of indicating that some of these lists might have been compiled with more than half an eye on what looks right as opposed to the actual quality of music, while simultaneously observing that if there magazines did their jobs properly and listened to enough goddamn music they could solve both problems by putting Black Dresses on top of all their lists

imago, Monday, 26 November 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

I really like the Kelly Moran record on Paste’s list

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Monday, 26 November 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

Man, Amanda Shires is getting hosed in these. She released what is easily one of the best records of the year with To the Sunset.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 26 November 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link

can we all agree that ppl responding to these lists with "it's only November!" or w/e is *the worst*

alpine static, Monday, 26 November 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

where's the ilm list? It's AFTER thankgiving ffs

President Keyes, Monday, 26 November 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link


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