The Lion King (Jon Favreau-directed 'live action' remake, 2019)

what ... were you guys imagining when they said live action lion king

like ... trained lions?

monkeys smokin cigarettes

dogs wearin hats and crackin jokes

I was imagining exactly this waste of resources

despise this animation style tbh

john oliver as rowan atkinson is just too much

I do enjoy the idea that “you can’t actually make a live action lion king don’t know if you knew that” would be like a death blow to the idea that this is a pointless waste of time

oh it's definitely a waste of time, it just seemed weird that you guys didn't realize that until you saw the preview

Can there at least be trained meerkats?

I mean I can’t speak for others but I’m not seeing much evidence of surprise itt - it’s in the first post

It's not a question of realizing it, it's more about the fact that the marketing team is using the phrase "live action" and it's being released by a corporate division called Disney Live Action and it's like, words actually mean things, you know?

I’ve heard of words.

a lion king remake that actually used real lions would be hilarious, i imagine it'd be just shot after shot of lions sitting around looking bored accompanied by celebrity voiceovers

Baby Simba is cute as hell, at least.

mmm furry deepfake

unperson, you are right and this is making me insane now

They remade an animated movie with ... a different type of animation!

this is like not even a remake, its a remaster, thank you

original Lion King is not good, boring story and terrible songs etc, but it made a billion dollars and I guess it really will never die.

with this and dumbo they make some of the animals look realistic and then they make the main character a cg blob. maybe it's because they're the only one you see up close with facial expressions. idgi.

Do kids actually want to see these weird looking movies or is it just for like

shut the fuck up pic.twitter.com/WFN4EoWW2N

— ? (@JucheMane) November 2, 2017

Kids will get dragged along I guess, the real target has to be the kidult army

I thought hearing about a live action Lady & the Tramp recently sounded really dodgy but hadn't heard anything about this.
Probably worth seeing for rubbernecking reasons. I don't know, is it worth seeing truly execrable films just so that you know the contrast?

so is disney now 100% devoted to churning out cynical copyright-extension remakes of its previous successes while pixar does all the new ip?

My understanding is yes

Oh no wait they've got Wreckit Ralph 2 coming out for the tru cinephiles

not gonna lie, i'm looking forward to that

if they keep the songs then I'm gonna see this about a dozen times, my kids can't get enough of those tunes & this movie will be better than 99% of the trash that's in theaters aimed at kids

i want to see a cheetah's mouth open up and human talking come out

There are at least 2 Eddie Murphy movies i think you'll be interested in then

The “live action” marketing angle is their way of saying that it has a more realistic style than Madagascar

so is disney now 100% devoted to churning out cynical copyright-extension remakes of its previous successes while pixar does all the new ip?

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idk Coco was a high-water mark for both Disney and Pixar imo

at least they didn't waste money on a new screenplay huh

Maybe Nala can take over Pride Rock in this one.

lmao a new writer actually DID get a screenplay credit for this

Needed to punch up the fart gags

Cant wait for 2024 when they spend 200 million to reenact the sword in the stone including the bits where they ran out of money and had to repeat whole chunks of animation

If only they'd run out of money

can't wait for 2040 when they remake the live-action remake of cinderella with hand-drawn animation

Pride Rock Steven Tyler concert

hey eric andre is in this thing

I was hoping this would be like an old timey Disney cartoon where stock footage of lions is used and some 70 year old baritone narrator tells the audience what that translates to in human-speak

Jesus, Disney has three of these coming out in the next year. Lion King, Dumbo, and Aladdin with Will Smith playing Robin Williams. This is the most horrid thing happening in modern cinema.

Can't wait for the 20 scenes of elephant shit

Who's playing the crows in Dumbo?

Sacha baron Cohen iirc

what's the over/under on easter eggs referencing weed

I was hoping this would be like an old timey Disney cartoon where stock footage of lions is used and some 70 year old baritone narrator tells the audience what that translates to in human-speak

extremely otm. lost opportunity by Disney to get 10 dollars from me & 10 from Neanderthal and zero from everybody else

Nah i'd've gone to that too

Can't wait for the 20 scenes of elephant shit

The unforeseen consequence of Aladdin's first wish

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idk how far back you wanna trace the lost prince vs. usurper of the throne plotline but it goes back way before Hamlet

(and that's not really one of the aspects that are fascistic)

this looks like dogshit

half the point of hamlet is that it is a psychedelic self-deconstructing version of a story you already know. it couldn't be hamlet if its plot were original. the lion king has more to do with henry iv anyway imo.

did not see wapo piece but yes clearly the hyenas are an underclass repressed in the name of a supposedly virtuous natural hierarchy that organizes sentient beings by species. scar at least is an interesting figure tho: not merely a pretender but a political adventurer, glibly fluent in revolutionary language for the purpose of exploiting class division on his way to supreme personal power. (his death at the vengeful hands of the very disaffected who formed his core support is nifty.) given this villain all the movie actually needs to become antifascist (if not antimonarchical) is for simba to learn values from timon and pumbaa that convince him to abandon his evil father's pious blather about the food chain and grant the hyenas full citizenship. by avoiding both this ending and its tragic mirror, in which t+p are cruelly banished (like falstaff) in a symbolic restoration of (im)moral order, i'm sorry to say that the film renders itself juvenile.

Lotta Richard III in Lion King too, obviously.

def-- scar is nothing like claudius tbh

half the point of hamlet is that it is a psychedelic self-deconstructing version of a story you already know. it couldn't be hamlet if its plot were original. the lion king has more to do with henry iv anyway imo.

I'm assuming that the people who wrote disney's the lion king are not experts in pre-early modern english literature and that the basic structure of "heir to the throne's father is killed by his uncle - who makes it look like an accident and usurps power to become king. prince fucks around a bit for a while - hamlet with the actors and rosenkrantz and guildenstern, simba with poomba and timon (ok poomba and timon are good guys and r and g are spies for claudius). mufasa is horatio (ok that's a stretch)" is more likely to have been taken from one of the best known pieces of world literature than not.

Which Shakespeare play is it where a warthog's dank farts kill all fauna within six yards' distance?

merry wives

there are a number of fart jokes in shakespeare's oeuvre

thanks for the fascism heads up comrades, my cousin wanted me to take him to see this so i punched him in the face

Good!

cousin-punching is praxis

They talk, yes, which makes them likely to set up a fascistic dictatorship (the dictator dictates, i.e. speaks) but the fact that these are animals is not irrelevant to the tale. Aesop, La Fontaine and their ilk are least interesting when read as allegorical anthropomorphists.

i have shot mine arrow o'er the house,
and punched my cousin

Comedy of Errors: "A man may break a word with you, sir, and words are but wind
Ay, and break it in your face, so he break it not behind."

Othello: "CLOWN: Are these, I pray you, wind instruments?
FIRST MUSICIAN: Ay marry are they, sir.
CLOWN: O, thereby hangs a tail.
FIRST MUSICIAN: Whereby hangs a tail, sir?
CLOWN: Marry, sir, by many a wind instrument that I know."

And many more!

dlh otm, maybe you should write a wapo editorial about this movie

…and apply for an assistant professorship in Media Studies at the University of Utrecht.

*"The Aristocrats!" tone of voice* "The Lion King!"

"The Aristocrats!" also would have worked at the end of Midsommer.

They're deepfake-action remaking The Aristocats now too?

Yep! And Mulan!

And Little Mermaid!

They talk, yes, which makes them likely to set up a fascistic dictatorship (the dictator dictates, i.e. speaks) but the fact that these are animals is not irrelevant to the tale.

well it cuts both ways right cuz its preshishely becaushh they are animals that the natural order of predation can be so explicitly defended (just as human fascism must wrap itself in darwinian rhetoric). and since they not only talk but all talk the same language-- and since, ed aside, they are all fully sapient (made with such large discourse, looking before and after)-- it is hard for me to read the movie as glimpse into alien landscape. intrigued tho

in fairness the hyenas are shunned due to their overconsumption - which when allowed to continue unchecked under scar destroys the ecosystem - and thus are not really analogous to subaltern populations in our world - who consume much less than the rich and powerful

counterpoint: that characteristic slots neatly into caricatures of "welfare queens", "lazy" black people etc.

or Jews as rapacious parasites etc

Oh right, Jon Favreau directed it!

xp

well it cuts both ways right cuz its preshishely becaushh they are animals that the natural order of predation can be so explicitly defended (just as human fascism must wrap itself in darwinian rhetoric). and since they not only talk but all talk the same language-- and since, ed aside, they are all fully sapient (made with such large discourse, looking before and after)-- it is hard for me to read the movie as glimpse into alien landscape. intrigued tho

It does cut both ways, no question about it, but speaking on behalf of kid pomenitul, exposure to fable-like narratives was primarily a means of encountering an otherness and strangeness beyond human ken rather than a mere mirror of adult mores. Denying their pedagogical, domesticating function would be silly, but allegories are always more (or less) than just allegories: there is an inevitable opaqueness to them that thwarts authorial and hence moral intent. Utterly transparent allegories (or symbols, for that matter) are a pipe dream and child me was mostly glad to catch a glimpse of the animal 'kingdom', irrespective of its presumed social/hierarchical structures, which I found less interesting than the individual characters on display, as well as the art and voice acting that brings them to life.

oh for sure, to be clear i watched this movie on vhs more or less daily 1995-1996 and had a crush on nala

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Which just goes to prove ...

Lion King reviews are camp.

— Kyle Stevens (@cinementalist) July 11, 2019

watching this on TV now, how on earth did they manage to fuck it up this badly? every character looks like it's been killed, stuffed and had its lips animated with the wombo app

i saw two seconds of it, channel-hopping, and it looks even stupider than i imagined

their rules are baffling - their realism accepts lions talking and singing and believing in the divine right of kings but not dancing or emoting or being gay (disney won't rest until they've reimagined all their great villains as straight)