The Bobby Gillespie Bullshit game

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Primal Tap is so OTM. Many Tap-esque moments in this thing..."first thing he ever says to me was what's your favourite Bob Marley b-side", Bobby sniffing the record, McGee undermining the whole concept by saying that with hindsight the released version of the album was the right thing to do, Noel G saying all pre-Screamadelica Creation Records are shit - which would include the first 2 Primal Scream albums, and many, many more. Good laughs in this.

everything, Thursday, 22 November 2018 07:36 (five years ago) link

i saw them live in the Velocity Girl era and they were great, tbf. '86, probably, supporting Julian Cope. They were a six-piece at the time; one guy just played tambourine, but he wore black leather gloves to do it: as the son of a shop steward Boab was a stickler for the health and safety of his employees.

fetter, Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:00 (five years ago) link

I also saw Primal Scream live a couple of times around the time of their first single (they were supporting James and the Blue Aeroplanes, respectively) and yeah, they were perfectly fine indie jangle. Very short sets - they plainly didn't have many songs.

I don't recognise everything's claim that nobody wanted to hear records by the Creation also-rans. Like many other rec labels with a brand identity, plenty of people, self included, bought into the whole Creation aesthetic and would buy pretty much anything released on the label. And that Slaughter Joe single is a belter.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:29 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DPe-2HuApE

mark s, Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:33 (five years ago) link

Slaughter Joe single was popular, relatively, as were Jim Beattie's Primal Scream actually, Biff Bang Pow or Revolving Paint Dream on the other hand - but, hey ho, it was his label after all.

Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:33 (five years ago) link

Slaughter joe did go on to run a worthwhile record label too.

Stevolende, Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:59 (five years ago) link

which would include the first 2 Primal Scream albums

fwiw the 1st Primal Scream album wasn't on Creation

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 22 November 2018 13:53 (five years ago) link

So it was on McGee's other label but the point remains that his association with JAMC and Bobby generally being a meme propped them up throughout the early years. Obviously they were liked and had their fans - I was one of them. But even at the time they seemed bad and retrospectively they were so much worse than their peers at the time. And I don't mean bands like the Clouds or the Razorcuts. Got an old flyer for Rooftop Club in Glasgow with the headlining bands for successive Sundays in Sept 1987 - Primal Scream, the Chills, Bambi Slam, Felt/House of Love and The Swans. Primal Scream at the time were not even close to being the equal of most of those bands. Later they were, but not then.

everything, Thursday, 22 November 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link

oh boy the bambi slam were the fucking worst

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Thursday, 22 November 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link

I've completely forgotten who they were ybh.

Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 November 2018 21:12 (five years ago) link

.. to be honest, not you be honest.

Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 November 2018 21:12 (five years ago) link

kind of a tune free version of the mary chain with the added feature of someone sawing away at a cello, all swagger and racket sort of thing. think the main guy was canadian?

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Thursday, 22 November 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

They look kinda gothy. But then the Mary Chain look was sort of modified gothy.

Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 November 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link

they were definitely goth adjacent! andrew eldritch was their manager for a short while iirc and got them signed to a major

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Thursday, 22 November 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

Primal Scream at the time were not even close to being the equal of most of those bands. Later they were, but not then.

yes but this is surely what made McGee worthwhile for several years - that he could see potential and nurture it. this is what A&R and label owners should do! it used to take most ppl an album or two to actually get good.

Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Friday, 23 November 2018 09:01 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

Bob's Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/primalscreamofficial) is a must, for all your rock 'n' roll iconography / radical politics needs.

Don't ever change, big man.

fetter, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link

Classic Boab.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrZmKBkX4AAnXud.jpg

calzino, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 18:36 (five years ago) link

Bob's Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/primalscreamofficial🕸) is a must...


For real. I love it. Same goes for his partner.

nathom, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link

it's good but it's not

https://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/55/2011/06/PrimalScreamWomblesPR170611.jpg

koogs, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 20:20 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

bobby gearing up to let varoufakis have both barrels on why he's wrong about the merits of the mc5 vs the stooges

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 April 2019 11:42 (five years ago) link

varoufakis "hawkwind fan"

About 2 results (0.21 seconds)

mark s, Monday, 15 April 2019 12:13 (five years ago) link

he totally is though

mark s, Monday, 15 April 2019 12:15 (five years ago) link

he has two ears and a heart iirc

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 April 2019 12:17 (five years ago) link

he has a hog he doesn't need that other stuff

mark s, Monday, 15 April 2019 12:18 (five years ago) link

*varoufakis hog throbbing in the background*

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 April 2019 12:20 (five years ago) link

blimey, dave brock cleans up nicely

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 April 2019 12:31 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

haven't read this, i only noticed it because there was a copy on the floor of the tube and the cover said something like 'the undimmed majesty of bobby gillespie'

https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/esmagazine/bobby-gillespie-primal-scream-interview-a4131261.html

anyway, there's another 'best of' coming soon. and this one does include things from before Loaded.

koogs, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:49 (four years ago) link

Even after years of living in Islington, his Glaswegian accent is unchanged, as is his face, the passage of time somehow having contrived to swerve it entirely.

I had no idea I'd given an interview to the Evening Standard.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link

Gillespie exhibits the sort of passion and knowledge that makes you wish he’d follow in the footsteps of his union official-turned-Labour Party-candidate father (also Bob) and run for office.

... and lose a seat the Labour Party had held for centuries.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link

okay now i've gone full acclerationist and i want prime minister bobby gillespie, fuck it

"Whit? An audience wi' th' Queen? Fuckin' Brian May and his fuckin' badgers? GET TAE FUCK!"

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link

> with two sons, Wolf, 17, and Lux, 14

koogs, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link

is wolf a call-back to his spiritual father, citizen smith?

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link

Has he got an album out or something?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/11/this-much-i-know-bobby-gillespie-primal-scream

Really laying on the working class Glaswegian hero bit with a trowel here. Give it a fuckin' rest, Bobby.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 May 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

Has he got an album out or something?

from the link:

Primal Scream’s new album Maximum Rock ’n’ Roll: The Singles is out on 24 May.

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 11 May 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

I saw violence on the streets. I saw it at football matches and I saw it at school. I had to be careful as the minute I stepped out on to the street anything could happen.

So, basically it was like fucking everywhere else, then.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 13 May 2019 11:53 (four years ago) link

I have no idea but it sounds nothing like Mount Florida. God knows what he'd be saying if he'd grown up in Toryglen alongside (genuine Celtic fans) Jim Kerr and Charlie Burchill.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Monday, 13 May 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link

Madonna is a prostitute, proclaimed Bobby on tonight’s Newsnight (for playing Eurovision). Also he is not an anti-semite, since “all his heroes are jews”, Karl Marx and Bob Dylan were cites.What a pure fud. Also he went to King’s Park Secondary which, while hardly a private school, ain’t exactly the ghetto. Bullshit indeed.

the article don, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link

Cited, not cities

the article don, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link

Here's the Newsnight clip:

“Madonna would do anything for money"

- Primal Scream's Bobby Gillespie on Madonna performing in Tel Aviv at Eurovision.

Madonna has said she will “never stop playing music to suit someone’s political agenda" https://t.co/dIXMXIzVwU

MORE TONIGHT 22:30#newsnight #Eurovision pic.twitter.com/iRnpJk2TFE

— BBC Newsnight (@BBCNewsnight) May 17, 2019

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:39 (four years ago) link

... Mike & Bernie Winters, Maureen Lipman, Mr. Abie.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Friday, 17 May 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link

Ivor Cutler, Denis Norden, Marty Feldman

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 May 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link

Wow, Mr. Abie's life took a dark turn, if this article by UNKNOWN is to be believed...

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/troubled-radio-star-mr-abie-2409095.amp

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Friday, 17 May 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link

fucking hell

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 May 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link

Christopher and Robert, then aged 26 and 20, savagely beat and slashed the grandfather-of-15 in his Westwood bungalow. The brothers had wrongly believed the 65-year-old had assaulted their alcoholic mum.

one for the "real scotland" thread if it existed

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 May 2019 23:22 (four years ago) link

Like an episode of Taggart.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Friday, 17 May 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link


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