> In the documentary is it weird that they blipped right over the band's jangly beginnings and went straight to the self-titled record era?
the recent best-of did exactly the same.
i love sonic flower groove and crystal crescent fwiw. and that second revolving paint dream lp is one of my all-time faves.
― koogs, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link
tbf the recent* one included songs from the first two albums, it was the one before that** which didn't
* March 2004** November 2003
― Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 23:07 (five years ago) link
* March 2004 ***
*** Japan only 8)
Ha, "recent"
― koogs, Thursday, 22 November 2018 04:47 (five years ago) link
yes, further away from the present than the release was from Loaded :D
― Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Thursday, 22 November 2018 06:45 (five years ago) link
Primal Tap is so OTM. Many Tap-esque moments in this thing..."first thing he ever says to me was what's your favourite Bob Marley b-side", Bobby sniffing the record, McGee undermining the whole concept by saying that with hindsight the released version of the album was the right thing to do, Noel G saying all pre-Screamadelica Creation Records are shit - which would include the first 2 Primal Scream albums, and many, many more. Good laughs in this.
― everything, Thursday, 22 November 2018 07:36 (five years ago) link
i saw them live in the Velocity Girl era and they were great, tbf. '86, probably, supporting Julian Cope. They were a six-piece at the time; one guy just played tambourine, but he wore black leather gloves to do it: as the son of a shop steward Boab was a stickler for the health and safety of his employees.
― fetter, Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:00 (five years ago) link
I also saw Primal Scream live a couple of times around the time of their first single (they were supporting James and the Blue Aeroplanes, respectively) and yeah, they were perfectly fine indie jangle. Very short sets - they plainly didn't have many songs.
I don't recognise everything's claim that nobody wanted to hear records by the Creation also-rans. Like many other rec labels with a brand identity, plenty of people, self included, bought into the whole Creation aesthetic and would buy pretty much anything released on the label. And that Slaughter Joe single is a belter.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:29 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DPe-2HuApE
― mark s, Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:33 (five years ago) link
Slaughter Joe single was popular, relatively, as were Jim Beattie's Primal Scream actually, Biff Bang Pow or Revolving Paint Dream on the other hand - but, hey ho, it was his label after all.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:33 (five years ago) link
Slaughter joe did go on to run a worthwhile record label too.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:59 (five years ago) link
which would include the first 2 Primal Scream albums
fwiw the 1st Primal Scream album wasn't on Creation
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 22 November 2018 13:53 (five years ago) link
So it was on McGee's other label but the point remains that his association with JAMC and Bobby generally being a meme propped them up throughout the early years. Obviously they were liked and had their fans - I was one of them. But even at the time they seemed bad and retrospectively they were so much worse than their peers at the time. And I don't mean bands like the Clouds or the Razorcuts. Got an old flyer for Rooftop Club in Glasgow with the headlining bands for successive Sundays in Sept 1987 - Primal Scream, the Chills, Bambi Slam, Felt/House of Love and The Swans. Primal Scream at the time were not even close to being the equal of most of those bands. Later they were, but not then.
― everything, Thursday, 22 November 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link
oh boy the bambi slam were the fucking worst
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Thursday, 22 November 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link
I've completely forgotten who they were ybh.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 November 2018 21:12 (five years ago) link
.. to be honest, not you be honest.
kind of a tune free version of the mary chain with the added feature of someone sawing away at a cello, all swagger and racket sort of thing. think the main guy was canadian?
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Thursday, 22 November 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link
They look kinda gothy. But then the Mary Chain look was sort of modified gothy.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 November 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link
they were definitely goth adjacent! andrew eldritch was their manager for a short while iirc and got them signed to a major
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Thursday, 22 November 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link
Primal Scream at the time were not even close to being the equal of most of those bands. Later they were, but not then.yes but this is surely what made McGee worthwhile for several years - that he could see potential and nurture it. this is what A&R and label owners should do! it used to take most ppl an album or two to actually get good.
― Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Friday, 23 November 2018 09:01 (five years ago) link
Bob's Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/primalscreamofficial) is a must, for all your rock 'n' roll iconography / radical politics needs.
Don't ever change, big man.
― fetter, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link
Classic Boab.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrZmKBkX4AAnXud.jpg
― calzino, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 18:36 (five years ago) link
Bob's Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/primalscreamofficialđ¸) is a must...
― nathom, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link
it's good but it's not
https://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/55/2011/06/PrimalScreamWomblesPR170611.jpg
― koogs, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 20:20 (five years ago) link
Did no-one think to invite Orinoco?
https://diem25.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/photo5908732877753921029.jpg
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Monday, 15 April 2019 11:26 (four years ago) link
bobby gearing up to let varoufakis have both barrels on why he's wrong about the merits of the mc5 vs the stooges
― arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 April 2019 11:42 (four years ago) link
varoufakis "hawkwind fan"
About 2 results (0.21 seconds)
― mark s, Monday, 15 April 2019 12:13 (four years ago) link
he totally is though
― mark s, Monday, 15 April 2019 12:15 (four years ago) link
he has two ears and a heart iirc
― arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 April 2019 12:17 (four years ago) link
he has a hog he doesn't need that other stuff
― mark s, Monday, 15 April 2019 12:18 (four years ago) link
*varoufakis hog throbbing in the background*
― arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 April 2019 12:20 (four years ago) link
https://bilder.t-online.de/b/72/52/84/52/id_72528452/610/tid_da/sieht-sich-immer-wieder-attacken-aus-griechenland-ausgesetzt-finanzminister-wolfgang-schaeuble-.jpg
― mark s, Monday, 15 April 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link
blimey, dave brock cleans up nicely
― arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 April 2019 12:31 (four years ago) link
haven't read this, i only noticed it because there was a copy on the floor of the tube and the cover said something like 'the undimmed majesty of bobby gillespie'
https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/esmagazine/bobby-gillespie-primal-scream-interview-a4131261.html
anyway, there's another 'best of' coming soon. and this one does include things from before Loaded.
― koogs, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:49 (four years ago) link
Even after years of living in Islington, his Glaswegian accent is unchanged, as is his face, the passage of time somehow having contrived to swerve it entirely.
I had no idea I'd given an interview to the Evening Standard.
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link
Gillespie exhibits the sort of passion and knowledge that makes you wish heâd follow in the footsteps of his union official-turned-Labour Party-candidate father (also Bob) and run for office.
... and lose a seat the Labour Party had held for centuries.
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link
okay now i've gone full acclerationist and i want prime minister bobby gillespie, fuck it
― michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN âfoetaljuiceâ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:56 (four years ago) link
"Whit? An audience wi' th' Queen? Fuckin' Brian May and his fuckin' badgers? GET TAE FUCK!"
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link
> with two sons, Wolf, 17, and Lux, 14
― koogs, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link
is wolf a call-back to his spiritual father, citizen smith?
― Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link
https://keyassets-p2.timeincuk.net/wp/prod/wp-content/uploads/sites/42/2018/04/rexfeatures_739847ae-630x400.jpg
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link
Has he got an album out or something?
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/11/this-much-i-know-bobby-gillespie-primal-scream
Really laying on the working class Glaswegian hero bit with a trowel here. Give it a fuckin' rest, Bobby.
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 May 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link
from the link:
Primal Screamâs new album Maximum Rock ânâ Roll: The Singles is out on 24 May.
― blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 11 May 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link
I saw violence on the streets. I saw it at football matches and I saw it at school. I had to be careful as the minute I stepped out on to the street anything could happen.
So, basically it was like fucking everywhere else, then.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 13 May 2019 11:53 (four years ago) link
I have no idea but it sounds nothing like Mount Florida. God knows what he'd be saying if he'd grown up in Toryglen alongside (genuine Celtic fans) Jim Kerr and Charlie Burchill.
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Monday, 13 May 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link
Madonna is a prostitute, proclaimed Bobby on tonightâs Newsnight (for playing Eurovision). Also he is not an anti-semite, since âall his heroes are jewsâ, Karl Marx and Bob Dylan were cites.What a pure fud. Also he went to Kingâs Park Secondary which, while hardly a private school, ainât exactly the ghetto. Bullshit indeed.
― the article don, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link
Cited, not cities
Here's the Newsnight clip:
âMadonna would do anything for money" - Primal Scream's Bobby Gillespie on Madonna performing in Tel Aviv at Eurovision. Madonna has said she will ânever stop playing music to suit someoneâs political agenda" https://t.co/dIXMXIzVwUMORE TONIGHT 22:30#newsnight #Eurovision pic.twitter.com/iRnpJk2TFE— BBC Newsnight (@BBCNewsnight) May 17, 2019
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:39 (four years ago) link
... Mike & Bernie Winters, Maureen Lipman, Mr. Abie.
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Friday, 17 May 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link
Ivor Cutler, Denis Norden, Marty Feldman
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 May 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link