I think the Kinks were fairly progressive for the time considering it all, and Dave Davies wrote about being bisexual in the 60s in his autobio including a relationship with Long John Baldry
― The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link
dave davies is touring! i love the kinks i just think lola is not their best song by a huge wide gigantic margin
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link
I'm surprised that "Shangri-La" never managed to become a huge hit. Maybe it was a couple years too early?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link
i love the kinks i just think lola is not their best song by a huge wide gigantic margin
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:21 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah agreed it's not close to one of their best!i like it overall thoughpart of it was it was a song i liked hearing on classic rock radio as a kid
― The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link
which in that context it felt kind of daring to me
― The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link
I always just read it as meaning that he was young and inexperienced.
"Well I left home just a week beforeAnd I've never ever kissed a woman before"
― ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
... the preceding line suggests exactly that.
― ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
I think the story is even “better” if he’s a masculine man, no?
― my guitar friend wants his money (morrisp), Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:47 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I am the world's most masculine manHigh-T alpha with a red pill in my hand
― The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link
xp Yeah, but there’s a difference btw. inexperienced and “no experience,” which is the choice made in the song. Even before “leaving home,” many blokes have snogged a crush or two (do I sound like I’m British?)
― my guitar friend wants his money (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link
"Lola" is a great song whose sentiment has aged remarkably well imo
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link
of the Brit pop songwriters of the era I don't think any of them were more sympathetic/empathetic to non-hetero-male POVs than Davies
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link
Townsend, Lennon/McCartney, Jagger/Richards all p much simplistic cavemen by comparison when it came to sexuality & gender roles
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link
I think you're over-thinking this tbh.
― ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link
davies definitely doesn't know what accent he's doing a lot of the time, he has a lot of fun with it
― ogmor, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link
Y-O-D-A YOOOOODA
― twin sinema (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link
xp oh, I’m nitpicking for sure... it’s just the one aspect of the song that jumped out at me a little, from the “modern” pov (in response to the original question).
― my guitar friend wants his money (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
"life on the road" --underappreciated kinks song written from a POV of inexperience described in colorful detail (with a few lyrics that are nagl by today's standards) fun song, lots of good lyrics in spite of the bad ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsybNX5I2tQ
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
dedicated follower of fashion tho
― old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link
any of those ruffle-shirted kinks songs are better representatives of the inexperienced narrator than "lola", which i realize now has always had a distinctively broey vibe to me
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link
ok maybe not ANY but many
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link
"Two Sisters" is a pretty gender-demeaning song.
― timellison, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link
it's not as empowering as Lennon's "Run For Your Life"
― The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
lol
― timellison, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link
The two characters in the lyrics of "Two Sisters" (Sybilla and Priscilla) were inspired by Ray Davies and his brother, Dave Davies. Ray was more introverted (and was the only one of the two married) while Dave was a party animal who was very outgoing. This clash of personalities was often the cause of many band in-fights, which would come out in their songs (ex. "Dandy", which is often thought to be about Dave).
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link
Ran ‘round the house with her curlers on
― timellison, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link
I can well imagine Dave doing that tbf.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link
If we're talking pre-Muswell Hillbillies, then I would have went for 'Who'll Be the Next in Line?' or 'Come On Now' long before 'Two Sisters' ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link
'Run for Your Life' is the obvious Lennon/McCartney example, but there's also 'Another Girl', 'You Can't Do That' etc.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link
The female harmonies of The Pursuit of Happiness are as good, if not better than, Fleetwood Mac's harmonies.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 00:38 (five years ago) link
Since Moe does their lead vocals, referring more to the match of Kris & Leslie together, vs Stevie and Christine as lead vocals.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 00:42 (five years ago) link
Wait, we're comparing TPOH's backing vocals to Fleetwood Mac's lead vocals?? And finding the latter wanting?
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 01:43 (five years ago) link
Always a pleasure to pull out "Beautiful White" anyway.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 01:44 (five years ago) link
More comparing Lindsey on lead, with Stevie and Christine harmonizing. I've just been stuck on how pure Kris and Leslie sound, and how they elevate the band.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 02:12 (five years ago) link
― timellison
worth keeping in mind that the davies brothers had six older sisters, at least one of whom led a fairly wild life and died when they ray and dave were still young
"lola" sounds better when the raincoats do it
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 02:51 (five years ago) link
Ramsey Lewis's 1970s albums are AT LEAST as good as Herbie Hancock's work from the same era, and in the latter half of the decade, they're better.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 18:43 (five years ago) link
As good as the Mwandishi albums?
― Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link
What's Ramsey Lewis' equivalent of Sextant, I want to hear that
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link
Lewis never did anything as weird as Mwandishi, but his albums from Golden Hits (seriously funked-out re-recordings of his 1960s hits) through Solar Wind, Sun Goddess, and Don't It Feel Good are as good as anything by the Headhunters (slightly more mainstream-oriented, of course), and Salongo, Tequila Mockingbird, Love Notes and Legacy are easily the equal of, or better than, Man-Child, Secrets, Sunlight, Directstep or Feets Don't Fail Me Now.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
"All About That Bass" is good
― rip van wanko, Thursday, 22 November 2018 04:21 (five years ago) link
Me Too is a proper earworm too.
― triggercut, Thursday, 22 November 2018 05:01 (five years ago) link
Queen > The Beatles
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 25 November 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link
the best ramsey lewis record is "mother nature's son"
it's probably the best collection of beatles covers i've ever heard outside of mixtapes i've made for myself
forget the '70s, just dig this funky weirdness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwsbVWeN6-M
― budo jeru, Sunday, 25 November 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link
^ thanks for sharing, this is great
― flappy bird, Friday, 30 November 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link
Troye Sivan is a better guitarist than Jimmy Page.
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, September 7, 2018
― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link
there is nothing wrong with comparing female artists to other female artists; we should instead be asking why we never compare male artists to women, and how it never seems noteworthy when a male artist is compared to dozens of men
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 30 November 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link
I find this conclusion to be bizarre tbh
― Οὖτις, Friday, 30 November 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link
same
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 30 November 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
i don't know what y'all are doing in those grimes and 1975 threads but it's probably not worth the effort
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Saturday, 1 December 2018 02:12 (five years ago) link
― budo jeru
i'll one-contrup that: there's one good record in "the white album", and it's ramsey lewis's "mother nature's son"
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Saturday, 1 December 2018 02:14 (five years ago) link
Charlie Watts' best playing is on the last few Stones albums.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link