Autechre: Elseq

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pendulu hv moda is so magnificent

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link

so much of what they do is so dark that when they decide to go sunny it's like a vitamin d overdose

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link

It's certainly magnificent, maybe my favourite of all their recent releases. And I guess it is quite sunny, yeah, until the grey clouds roll in and the alien mutant thunder rumbles low over the hills.

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 09:36 (five years ago) link

Returning to this release my first thought these days is how poorly mastered it is. Compared to NTS (excellent return to form mastering wise), Exai and especially Oversteps, this is overly compressed, narrow sounding and in your face. Shame, since this is some their best work.

octobeard, Thursday, 22 November 2018 00:51 (five years ago) link

otm

macropuente (map), Thursday, 22 November 2018 00:59 (five years ago) link

Definitely one of their harsher sounding collections.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 22 November 2018 01:37 (five years ago) link

Not sure of the authenticity of this but seems to be 400+(!) 1-2 minute pieces with accompanying slit-screen animations.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5ow3ZyXAhopA4NUdSIuAfTCvWTemihut

Pyschocandles, Thursday, 22 November 2018 02:46 (five years ago) link

^^ ugh my bad. didn't see the other thread.

Pyschocandles, Thursday, 22 November 2018 02:58 (five years ago) link

My God I never even considered the possibility of needing to shell out for Ae remasters some day

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 22 November 2018 04:01 (five years ago) link

It's kind of nuts that they need to be mastered (but I recall Frank Arkwright's name on many of their best releases). I'd imagined it might be possible to run the files through some kind of mastering algorithm as a final step, but on reflection that would mean it was possible for any digitally recorded music, and there are clearly people who are very good at mastering.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 22 November 2018 04:31 (five years ago) link

I've thought the same about elseq. The harshness and compression might be baked in, but perhaps not.

Noel Summerville did NTS and I marvel at how nice it sounds. Creamy smooth 'texture' but plenty of detail and impact.

Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 22 November 2018 08:20 (five years ago) link

What crosses my mind in terms of practicalities is that there's obvs a significant cost to getting that much material mastered. NTS was put out by Warp so presumably they will have paid mastering and production costs upfront but elseq was essentially self-released Maybe they could put a few quid back and get it redone. Wishful thinking.

Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 22 November 2018 08:28 (five years ago) link

Noel Summerville has mastered all their main releases since Draft 7.30, apparently, with the possible exception of elseq.

Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 22 November 2018 08:42 (five years ago) link

Further confirmation that I don't have 'golden ears'. Exai is the only one that's consistently given me audio fatigue.

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Thursday, 22 November 2018 08:52 (five years ago) link

Exai is quite dense and mid-rangey, perhaps. But that's more just a function of the music itself.

Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:09 (five years ago) link

audio aural fatigue, of course. Listening to elseq 5 now, maybe it's just the power of suggestion but it does sound slightly harsh and thin. You fuckers!

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:17 (five years ago) link

I'm listening to this now for the first time in a while and am liking the harshness.

silverfish, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link

eastre (which I'm listening to right now) wouldn't be as good with NTS-style mastering I think. Having all these tiny bits exposed are what make this track, if this track was on NTS it would probably be more hidden beneath the main up and down melody

silverfish, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link

pendulu hv moda definitely reminds me of Eidetic Casein from Confield in that it's based off a fun and perhaps even catchy melody that gets garbled to the point of no return. but I think it's a better track b/c it demonstrates just how far they've progressed. maybe it's b/c this is the only way my dumb millennial brain works but to me they've sort of paralleled the evolution of video games, during the same time frame too - early stuff like Amber & Tri Rep like the SNES, tangible, limited but very artfully done...Confield/Draft/Untilted being the forays into 3-D worlds that were closed off...now this & the NTS records being like these huge open-world games where everything seems possible. each era being classic in its own way, but man - there's such a vastness to their recent work that's hard to explain. like...that gurgling pinball bass thump never quite goes away in this track does it? it's always lurking somewhere.

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

here's a track that I don't see people talking about much here: "foldfree casual". there's such a heartbreaking melody in there. it's as gorgeous as anything on Oversteps if you ask me. I don't think there's a bad track on here. Besides "TBM2" I guess, which strikes me as something that probably wouldn't have gone on any of their other albums. The 4 hours just breeze by ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

frogbs, Thursday, 17 January 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link

It's very much in the style of Drane2 (a good thing).

large bananas pregnant (ledge), Friday, 18 January 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link

Elseq 5 is 'lost in the vast underground caverns, afraid of the monsters' par excellence.

large bananas pregnant (ledge), Friday, 18 January 2019 14:25 (five years ago) link

ten months pass...

"feed1" is the best thing that's ever happened to me

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 November 2019 16:08 (four years ago) link

I love how Autechre's music has slipped free of easy reference points, from instrumentation to titles.

Though, that plus release velocity makes finding a tune you half-remember quite a task.

(pendulu hv moda, this time)

lukas, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 06:26 (four years ago) link

if you just play them all the time then you don't have to remember anything

j., Tuesday, 3 December 2019 06:26 (four years ago) link

c16 deep tread and eastre are the alpha and the omega here for me

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 07:20 (four years ago) link

Has their been a trend piece on big-name electronic musicians from the 90s (Autechre, Aphex Twin, Underworld) turning to a strategy of releasing massive amounts of material? Underworld's Drift seemed a little more structured than Aphex Twin's big Soundcloud drop, though maybe if you graphed Autechre's release history over time there would be a pattern.

with hidden noise, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 07:54 (four years ago) link

everyone releases massive amounts of material now

j., Tuesday, 3 December 2019 08:15 (four years ago) link

of course since Oversteps their releases have roughly gone 1, 2, 4, 8 hours in duration - awaiting the next with interest

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 08:24 (four years ago) link

In a time when the internet can quash any initial mystique about a piece of pop culture in just a few clicks, Autechre's music still feels enigmatic and mysterious to me.

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 09:30 (four years ago) link

don't forget the 28 hours of live performances.

koogs, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link

and those weird colour-noise videos

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link

indeed, they are restless spirits

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 11:15 (four years ago) link

you could also maybe add FSOL's endless stream of archival releases & Moby's very long ambient albums, though this along with the Aphex dump all seem like very different things than what Autechre & Underworld are doing. both those groups have always produced a ton of music & I think the 'trend' is just to go, "what if we didn't have to cut this to an hour?". to me there isn't a huge difference in what Ae is doing now and say, the Tri Rep/Garbage/Anvil Vapre period, or say LP5/EP7, just that those releases were edited to fit the CD and these aren't. which in turn affects the sort of things they choose to pursue. in Underworld's case, they've always had endless B-sides and non-album tracks for people to obsess over, most of which just never got released

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

to me this definitely feels like artists not having the constraint of physical media as the main distribution method anymore and adjusting accordingly + having a solid enough fan base so that they can release really long and possibly difficult material and know that enough people are willing to put in the required time to listen to that material

silverfish, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link

Also more releases probably = more streaming revenue, right?

lukas, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:08 (four years ago) link

Well, since streaming revenue is per track listened rather than time listened, then autechre are possibly making bad business decisions.

silverfish, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link

of course since Oversteps their releases have roughly gone 1, 2, 4, 8 hours in duration - awaiting the next with interest

Two more and they'll be up there with Terre Thaemlitz's Soulnessless (16GB microSD card, 32 hours). I never bought that, but I did get that Farmers Manual DVD-ROM back in the day. About 93 hours of material on that. Of which I think I've heard about 2%. Still, time off over Xmas, eh?

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

if you just play them all the time then you don't have to remember anything

― j., Tuesday, December 3, 2019 1:26 AM (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is pretty much my philosophy

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

fretting about remembering track titles is for boomers

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

to me this definitely feels like artists not having the constraint of physical media as the main distribution method anymore and adjusting accordingly + having a solid enough fan base so that they can release really long and possibly difficult material and know that enough people are willing to put in the required time to listen to that material

― silverfish, Tuesday, December 3, 2019 10:44 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

tbf this level of loyalty currently applies to about .02% of all living / working artists

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

https://8apr.de/transmediale/

j., Saturday, 4 January 2020 04:14 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Listening to curvcaten and the percussion feels like it's crawling into my ears
(love that wall piece too, j.)

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 6 March 2020 05:38 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

"feed1" is the best thing that's ever happened to me

― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, November 21, 2019 9:08 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 4 December 2020 04:53 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

7th slip is so weird. It's really weird audio. It starts off weird and then gets weirder.

silverfish, Thursday, 15 June 2023 18:20 (ten months ago) link

very weird. some autechre tracks are like a really bizarre cursed image to me. i listen in horrified awe.

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 15 June 2023 22:05 (ten months ago) link

Nine is the most cursed of them all

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Thursday, 15 June 2023 23:44 (ten months ago) link

Not Mine, Bine

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Thursday, 15 June 2023 23:44 (ten months ago) link

Argh fecking phone.

I definitely mean Bine. Not Nine. And certainly not Mine, which is a track on their next album

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Thursday, 15 June 2023 23:45 (ten months ago) link

I feel like there's cursed but I dig it, and just plain cursed - lots of NTS 2 & 3 and the entirety of l-event just has me scratching my head.

ledge, Friday, 16 June 2023 08:16 (ten months ago) link


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