cosigning andrea long chu's thread about trans women having male privilege before they transition, which... others have pointed out is unnuanced for various reasons & however true it might sometimes be is rhetoric used towards explicitly transmisogynistic ends
oh cool i hate this argument
you're roundly otm here eric thank you
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 19 November 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
Thanks for the elaboration, eric. I haven't followed the response to her video on "The Aesthetic", but did find it murkier and more conflicted than many of her others. There is a risk if cis audiences are taking these to be the definitive trans perspectives.
― jmm, Monday, 19 November 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link
There is a risk if cis audiences are taking these to be the definitive trans perspectives.
There's also a risk that some idiot will think the Tabby character is speaking directly to them, and encouraging them to hit people with a bat. Contrapoints has always been explicit about speaking for herself and only herself.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 19 November 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
there's always a risk when you're speaking for a marginalized or minority community that ppl will take your opinions as definitive for the community and not just your personal takes with which others can reasonably disagree but it seems to me like we should credit natalie (and ilxors maybe?) to understand the difference, esp bc taking that as an assumption ("you're speaking on behalf of X group and these ppl in that group disagree with you") is itself a conflation of the individual + collective. anyway sorry for the digression + thk you for clarifying i can definitely see how ppl might disagree w/ her on those points (tho i certainly think she's entitled to have & express them).
― Mordy, Monday, 19 November 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
her describing non-passing trans women as not quite women bc of their inability to pass
I...don't believe she did this, and I watched that video a couple of times?
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 19 November 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link
it would be fine if you were talking about the mode
― sarahell, Monday, 19 November 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
love these weasel takes which i consider to be at the v least adjacent to not-great
― ogmor, Monday, 19 November 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
don't we have threads for this?
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 19 November 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link
Technically we have threads for every post itt yes
― coetzee.cx (wins), Monday, 19 November 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link
in the future, all events will be automatically discussed by bots that comb through old ILX posts and copy and paste things into the appropriate threads
― Karl Malone, Monday, 19 November 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link
already got the wombat poop thread covered, we can use that in the bot training set
― j., Monday, 19 November 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link
is the truther pony dead?
― sarahell, Monday, 19 November 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link
Ilx is a chat room, what are these "threads" of which you speak
― brimstead, Monday, 19 November 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link
Do they have a new album out? Is that why they are in the news?
― Frank Lloyd RONG (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 01:55 (five years ago) link
they're all terrible because the medium is terrible
― Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:26 (five years ago) link
I too hate it when the still images are displayed in rapid succession, creating the illusion of motion
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link
Hey I kept it out of the thread 😁 but I cannot see the appeal of people feyly blethering into a camera taking hours to make points that could be made in a paragraph of writing but mostly aren't worth making. This pushes all of my tyranny of humour buttons at once I guess.
― Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link
See also: podcasts ffs
― Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link
I'm not even close to wanting to make a coherent case here tbh, just noting that the YouTube mode of address grinds my gears like almost no other form of media :D
― Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:39 (five years ago) link
if that were still the format ppl worth watching were using, I'd agree, but that's becoming less and less the case (both in terms of length and style)
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:40 (five years ago) link
If there's a bunch of non-talking heads movies out there that'd be lovely as long as they don't feature theories
― Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:43 (five years ago) link
anyway NV sorry for trespassing on the safe space of the second thoughts thread, we now resume our regular programming
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link
No problem, I figured this was a legitimate use of it for me to moan about this thing I hate without trampling dirt on the actual thread carpet
― Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link
fucking whomst tho
― old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link
belgian?
― sarahell, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
Stan M strikes again?
― ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link
i think we accept they are spending all that money yes
― early rejecter, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
xp this time I'm innocent!
― StanM, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
i was talking about fries, from the tuber family
― sarahell, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
Seriously, there's no one who can sprinkle cyanide powder into his KFC bucket?
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
no kidding?
― old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link
Jfc you're not getting any better
― Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 November 2018 01:13 (five years ago) link
I seriously think this thread has cured me of the appetite for sweary Malcolm Tucker-esque "comedy" rancour for the rest of my life
― Jacob Lohl (stevie), Thursday, 22 November 2018 11:26 (five years ago) link
I might start providing a public service by C&Ping these comments without the names attached into the relevant thread, if I can guess it.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 22 November 2018 11:39 (five years ago) link
That sounds like fun
― Mama Weer All Tankee Now (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 November 2018 11:42 (five years ago) link
tbh mine could be c&p'd in almost every thread, like a bob bosko or something
― Jacob Lohl (stevie), Thursday, 22 November 2018 11:47 (five years ago) link
Better to have posted and lost than not to have posted at all. I guess?
― pomenitul, Thursday, 22 November 2018 11:53 (five years ago) link
I actually can't remember who irked me last night, lol pitiful alcoholic
― Mama Weer All Tankee Now (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 November 2018 11:56 (five years ago) link
claiming it so
― old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 November 2018 11:58 (five years ago) link
OK now I remember and it isn't anybody of note
― Mama Weer All Tankee Now (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 November 2018 11:59 (five years ago) link
― Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Thursday, 22 November 2018 12:15 (five years ago) link
pretty certain it wasn't one of mine, though I did go through a alcoholic bit of comedy socking years back that I only remember some of the details of
― sarahell, Thursday, 22 November 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link
were you the bellhop kid
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 November 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link
no, that sock was boring and tedious, I was more "hit and run"
― sarahell, Thursday, 22 November 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
i loved and still love brodie, bite your tongue
― rip van wanko, Thursday, 22 November 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link
i view comedy socking as more of a caper or plot-driven thing, whereas some take more of a "world-building approach" which I can respect, but is not my style
― sarahell, Thursday, 22 November 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link
Worst sock ever, sorry that is just how I feel
― Mama Weer All Tankee Now (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 November 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link
some of mine were probably pretty bad, but I only remember the ones I still take some pride in
― sarahell, Thursday, 22 November 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link
https://static.makeuseof.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/windowsxp-end-670x335.jpg
― sarahell, Thursday, 22 November 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link
can't keep track of all my socks tbh
― F# A# (∞), Thursday, 22 November 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link