Fallout 76 - tricentennial edition

But without NPCs or narrative, I can’t see the point of playing until the game gets built up after a year or so

I think there’s a game experience that companies have yet to really sell, because the return isn’t guaranteed: the evolving world. Bethesda is trying this, possibly more honestly than others have, by giving a limited experience that isn’t open-ended as far as gameplay, but as far as the game experience itself. It’s unplanned space: the things added to the game world will be reactive based on player actions and feedback, and the price early adopters pay is not for a product but for the reactive addition of gameplay elements. It’s an interesting feedback loop because without additional cost to the consumers, the entire incentive on the developer is the continued improvement that spurns further adoption.

Whether it ends up like a suburban development where people end up moving in and population demands result in more stores and schools or it becomes like one of those unpopulated cities built for a future workforce that fails to materialize before the buildings begin to fall into disrepair, is yet to be seen

that's an interesting idea, but how would it work in practice? the things that i immediately think of things like larger settlements/cities organically evolving from player decisions, or maybe things like players designating market areas for trading, and then developers adding tools or items to help players do things like that.

but those sounds more like things that could happen in a MMORPG, not so much a 24-player server. so do you mean things more like developers responding to players being frustrated with the poor aiming controls by implementing better auto-aim or something similar?

xp i remember reading about someone's idea that cloud game streaming would open up the possibilities of much more dynamic MMO worlds, as you could have the world change more frequently and/or more drastically without the burden of having to constantly push out massive clientside updates to make it work

figure out what unexpected players do and expand on it

like the corpse-humping in fps games? now we have horrible victory emotes

on second thought...

Marked down to $40 already on Xbox

Down to £30 here in the UK today.

The reviews have been pretty bad mind

granted they'll probably try and make a lot of dlc money on this but i can't remember the last time a game got this discounted this quickly. people who bought it on day 1 have barely had it a week?!

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46959170_261663328037086_8640284648229830656_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=fcaaacb490039297dcbe2eed3a773763&oe=5C68AFA3

The boiling rage this has gotten from Gamers has been pretty amusing.

Nerds tryin to put together a class action lawsuit because the fucking tote bag included in the Ultra Deluxe edition was nylon instead of canvas. Todd Howard being burned in effigy in message boards across the land.

fallout 76 patched last night and the patch has broken guns. guns no longer kill enemies. only melee consistently works. good, great

— Waldorf Sixpence (@WaldorfSixpence) December 5, 2018

not often a game exceeds my expectations of how shitty it’s gonna be, hats off to Bethesda

I had a bunch of time over Thanksgiving and bought FO4 for PS4 for like $15 and played it.

I mean, on one hand I wasn't doing much and didn't feel like reading from the stack of books I've been holding back on during those couple days. On the other hand, if I had anything more pressing to do with my time and wasn't a masochist I would have done about anything else. So, this 76 thing is probably not anywhere on my radar for the foreseeable future.

FO4 had some interesting locations and like... a couple interesting characters? I feel like the things they're valuing in that game, and seemingly in this one, is just giving you junk to do without providing an interesting story about why you're doing it, or making any of the things you do unique in any way. I go to this area to set up a dongle on a building, and there'll be super mutants because it's in game quadrant X. I do the same elsewhere and it's game quadrant Y, so it's feral ghouls. And the only quests attached to over half the locations is these gruntwork things that never end.

bethesda games tend to be buggy and iffy on quality even when it's something they poured their hearts into now you get this cynical cash in

I started out expecting to hate it - because I don’t like online games that much. But now my inner contrarian (who I try to keep in line) wants to like this. Either way, I can’t afford it this close to Christmas.

ok I know ending montages are less of a thing these days but I really miss the old-style fallout endings where they talked about all the different factions and what happened according to your choices, and how settlements along the wasteland fared

just “finished” fo4 and it’s like “oh hey I guess you did stuff and life is different. we got things to do still and btw buy the dlc”

bethesda really just can't stop explosively shitting themselves huh

Some of the people submitting tickets to get their replacement Fallout 76 canvas bag have encountered a surprise: they’ve been given access to parts of Bethesda’s support system, including the ability to open and close tickets, as well as check out customer’s personal information.

The loophole has since been closed, but not before a number of users on Reddit and the company’s forums claim to have been shown all kinds of things they should not have been shown. Jessiepie, for example, says:

I am receiving every single one of your support tickets on my Bethesda account. Mostly it’s your receipts for you power armor set requesting a new bag. These receipts contain all your info. Your email and home address and the card you used to buy this extremely glitched game.

RadioactiveTrinket, meanwhile, says:

I went on the support website today, to update a ticket of mine, and surprisingly (or not...) I ended up being able to see all sorts of tickets, with people putting their personnal informations in them, like receipt screenshots, names, addresses and so on.

whoops

Ha

Am I the only person playing Outer Worlds?

no

Is it any good?

The one person I know who's got it said it's far too easy and all the missions are pretty similar.

it’s not without its charms but it’s not bringing much to the table either - i’m 15 hours or so in and wondering whether i should keep going

i haven’t found it particularly challenging but i’m a time-strapped gamer dad now so it’s not really been a problem cuz i can’t be arsed getting killed over and over again in a story-focused game nowadays

(this is a weird thread to be having this convo in btw since it’s not a fallout game and it’s not developed by the people who made fallout 76)

the one person I know with it aaid its the best RPG he's ever played

outer worlds is not very fun, the writing is bad (and there's SO MUCH of it) and the shooting is horrible (and there's SO SO MUCH of it)

I like it but I went in with low expectations. Color scheme is pleasing and I think those are truffala plants outside of Edgewater???

(this is a weird thread to be having this convo in btw since it’s not a fallout game and it’s not developed by the people who made fallout 76)

Polygon just wrote that piece

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2019/11/7/20952172/outer-worlds-rpg-length-20-hour-game-100-hour-story-campaign

Much love to any remaining staff from the Fallout 1/2 era, but Outer Worlds looks uh... kinda lame. I guess there’s a push from angry nerds to be all “This is how Fallout SHOULD be Bethesda!” but the gameplay footage I’ve seen has not been enticing.

rockpapershotgun posted some article about how fallout 76 fans were enjoying the new changes to the game and i snarked on twitter fake news there are no fallout 76 fans and for like 5 days there wasn't a single other comment on the rps twitter thread which seemed to validate my assertion but then i guess the 5 players that do still play (and some of whom were quoted in the original article) found my comment and one wrote "there are more players than you have twitter followers" which i certainly hope is true but doesn't say much for the playerbase and then all 5 of her clanmembers in the game i guess posted "you burned him!" gif memes and basically highfived tbph i thought it was extremely cute but i do feel like probably these teens/young adults (idk) would benefit from playing better games.

hahaha

The human toll of Fallout 76’s disastrous launch: https://t.co/1x5ncPZ1ZH pic.twitter.com/29lwyWGkMj

— Kotaku (@Kotaku) June 8, 2022

when I saw this thread reappear in my bookmarked threads I thought it was a thread on this game, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_%2776, which I dare say was more fun