Have a pretty big-time track ID, Appleblim's Mutek set closer: a kind of trancey beepy synth, perhaps arpeggiated, and vocals involving "rising sun". Any insight would be much appreciated.
― formerly: mehlt, edward saroyan (EDB), Thursday, 4 June 2009 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i like anaconda a lot. sweat and dante are alright, sweat to my ears at least has an 80s house/dubstep/2step consolidation thing happening, dante seemed to not have much to do with dubstep at all. its cool so many dubstep producers are diversifying but half these tunes that bring in outside influences seem to have little to do with the host genre.
i need to find a good dubstep show to listen to regularly - is there one where you can hear a mix of the wobbly/straight ahead and the more leftfield stuff? anti social seem to play too much laid back/comatose stuff.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 4 June 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Phil. Talking of ideas around the margins, this post is next level: http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/2009/06/loving-wonky.html
― Martinclark, Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:46 (fourteen years ago) link
This can be heard in Flying Lotus’s ‘Tea Leaf Dancers’ as the volume for every track except the drumloop rapidly decreases immediately before the kick and rapidly increases immediately after, giving the overall texture an ametrically undulating profile.
FL Studio peak controller madness! Been playing with this a lot, too. Could be any other program, I guess, but FL lets you trigger ridiculous things with peaks.
― slugbaiting (rockapads), Thursday, 4 June 2009 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link
it's called sidechain and its daft punk's bread and butter
kinda cool to hear the technique used in other genres
― The Macallan 18 Year, Thursday, 4 June 2009 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, the reason I think some of it is peak controller is because, from what I understand, it's not a real sidechain. You can use it to trigger any effect, and - I'm not sure if this is the case with sidechain - you don't have to heard the track that's triggering it. I also gather from reading too much dubstepforum that tons of these dudes use FL.
― slugbaiting (rockapads), Thursday, 4 June 2009 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link
quick! i've just download dubstep allstars volumes 1 through 6, which do i search and what do i destroy?
― samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
downloaded
http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=92378
^^^would crash
― DJ MARTIAN IS A KING AMONG MEN. Dan Perry, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 18 June 2009 09:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I've been messing about with Reason to make dubstep tracks recently, and sidechaining is essential, but I'm interested to find out if peak controlling is possible in this program too?
― dog latin, Thursday, 18 June 2009 11:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Really really love the Cooly G Hyperdub 12" and the King Midas Sound EP. I guess neither are technically dubstep though (so much for policing the scene!)
― Alex in SF, Friday, 19 June 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
okay, i don't listen to this stuff, but i got this new album by CLOAKS in the mail and they are supposed to be dubstep and if other dubstep stuff sounds like this then count me in!
― scott seward, Friday, 19 June 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Listening to the audio samples on their myspace they are a bit more breakcore than most dubstep. You might really like aXXo though. They are similarly heavy.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 19 June 2009 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
no idea who cloaks are but was listening to beezy i think on rinse on wed night and it was seriously doing it for me.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 19 June 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
that cooly g ep is one of my favourite things of the year. i love her. seeing her dj in a week @ tactile, can't wait
― lex pretend, Friday, 19 June 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Lex have you heard the Dub Organizer stuff she's done?
― Alex in SF, Friday, 19 June 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i've got dub organizer vol 1 - 'dis boy pt 4' is so beautiful. "he says he wants to run away..."
― lex pretend, Friday, 19 June 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Are they just CD EPs then?
― Alex in SF, Friday, 19 June 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i think there's just one, and mine is on cd - it's not even on discogs :/
(is yr clobbersaurus email up to date?)
― lex pretend, Friday, 19 June 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Yup.
There are three listed on the BM-Soho shop. 4 songs a piece.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 19 June 2009 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Someone should do a cheesy wobbled-up remix of Live to Tell by Madonna. That would be wicked.
― chap, Monday, 22 June 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
This mix that Untld did for FACT is really doing it for me at the moment
― Number None, Thursday, 25 June 2009 12:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Untold
joker's set from sonar http://bit.ly/eEKXp
― society for cutting up (tricky), Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Wow, thanks for that, tricky.
Also, nobody's mentioned Tectonic Plates Vol. 2 yet? It's probably the most comprehensive and cohesive dubstep label statement since the early Dubstep Allstars, IMO...
― Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
been obsessed with this lately, as effectively used in Joker's Sonar set:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYCzZCmPypk
― Malcolm Money, Friday, 10 July 2009 04:19 (fourteen years ago) link
for reasons im not sure i still really like totally generic dubstep like what youngsta was playing on rinse last night.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 10 July 2009 11:48 (fourteen years ago) link
So does anyone know of that track I requested an ID (Appleblim's Mutek set closer) a kind of beepy synth, arpeggiated, and vocals involving "rising sun". Any insight would be much appreciated.
― EDB, Friday, 10 July 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
enjoying the self titled Clubroot release .
― drone/a/sore, Friday, 10 July 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Caspa did the essential mix this weekhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/essentialmix/
― koogs, Monday, 13 July 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link
v unfashionable to say i know but im not very into that joy orbison track. maybe its just over myspace but it just sounds a bit thin. and a bit TOO well produced. polite almost.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I think it's nice but not revelatory. If I want that kind of thing I'll listen to "Serious Thugs" or the funky tunes that go for the same vibe. Not that I know their names, only their female vocal samples, being:
- "IT'S the new sound!"- "KEEP'S HAPPENING!"- "ey-EY-ey!"- "... AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU!"
Oh, and Pearson Sound's "Wad" of course, which is at least nominally quasi-dubstep. Apparently Pearson Sound actually is Ramadanman, which doesn't surprise...
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
these should prob go in the "wonky" thread but this one's here and i still don't want to dignify the term "wonky"…but they're absolutely beautiful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww0K7XW8WJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bIR_YmiuVw
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Those are great. I like "wonky" that basically sounds like primo grime instrumentals.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link
have you heard much else by guido and joker, tim?
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link
those are wonky ;)
newish blackdown post that has the internet going macadamias:http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2009/07/where-do-u-call-it.html
lol@this guy in the comments box:"Blood how can you say mainstream dubstep has lost it when Snoop Dogg is all over it?"
blood, thats exactly how.
anyway, i get what mr clark is saying, but i dont really need to ever hear about 'ldn', feminine pressure, the zone of pointless intensification (is that the one?) or any of those things ever again. the sooner bloggers get rid of those phrases the better, no offence. (also see: references to 'wot do u call it'). but then i dont *totally* hate (well not all of it) the stuff i suspect he says is metal step (or maybe i do, not sure - i quite liked spongebob). im not totally sure how you can write off dubstep but not write off grime either, although i can see why a hard to the core dubstepper might. its easier to discard it completely when you love/believe in something so much rather than have an endlessly frustrating relationship to it.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Lex, I know most of Joker's "big" tunes ("Gullybrook Lane", "Play Doe", the Kapsize EP, "Holly Brook Park" etc) and really like almost all of them; from Guido I only know the Orchestral Lab 12 inch, which is only alright.
I also love Jack Sparrow's "For Me" in this general vein.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
"only alright"? the 'orchestral lab' 12" is astoundingly gorgeous, really beautiful.
'digidesign' is the most essential joker track you didn't mention...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzHOdfSHZgs
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link
To be fair I haven't given the Guido enough of a chance, I think a lot of this stuff just makes me want to listen to old Low Deep tracks and other similar grime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCI6EObCXuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PpCwdyer2Y
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
I think the straightforwardness of the rhythms on the Guido 12 inch made me a bit inclined to underrate it a bit - obv the melodies are very pretty and, um, orchestral. But this stuff usually needs good and interesting rhythm programming to keep me coming back.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Tim, yo should def. give the Orch Lab 12" B side, Way You Make Me Feel, another chance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZTcfMCsNu4
― scottpl, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
without getting super heady about why, I love Hyphy Mngo off the bat
― Malcolm Money, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
good debate on that post i mentioned earlier - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=96096&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20&sid=489c836b9783dd0dd56be07f089346cc
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
I heard a great mix by Ben UFO while following links from that Blackdown post, which ended with the Hyphy Mngo song, and I left the mix at work. Anyone know which one I'm talking about and have a link by any chance?
― mr. me too (rockapads), Saturday, 18 July 2009 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link
ah nm I found it - was in the pitchfork article. http://sonicrouter.blogspot.com/2009/05/interview-ben-ufo.html is where it's at.
― mr. me too (rockapads), Saturday, 18 July 2009 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link
oh god, the sweat/dante sounds sooooooooooooooooooo good listening to it proper on vinyl.
Also, once again: Boxcutter, this guy kills me.
― EDB, Thursday, 23 July 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
i dont get the point of all these new tunes reworking old 2 step rhythms. that brackles one (lhc?) is quite interesting melody-wise for instance but i wish they came up with something a bit fresher on the rhythmic front. it feels too soon (and obv i know 2 steppy revival beats arent new) to be reviving that already.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 24 July 2009 23:34 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6NHi0ios4I
― The Macallan 18 Year, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
crackstep
Mount Kimbie have a new EP out called "Sketch on Glass." On first listen it seems like a definite step-up from "Maybes", which i loved
― Number None, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 13:42 (fourteen years ago) link