this is kind of it really:
which is easier to quit?— one-time pad (@adrjeffries) November 14, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link
I quit Facebook something like 9 or 10 years ago with one relapse after I graduated college and was lonely; it was easy
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link
Amazon…I have one more video game preorder from them coming but I'm mostly done ordering stuff from there otherwise. Obviously AWS is the dominant cloud computing provider and we're all constantly using Amazon in that respect.
Of course this only means I'm going to end up ordering home goods from like Bed Bath and Beyond or Target which probably isn't "better" on any axis
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link
I don't really get anything I need from Amazon. I pretty much only use it to purchase random books I'd like to own
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
we do use it for birthday/gift lists for the families, so that's a helpful thing that I couldn't easily replace
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link
i wonder about like
facebook collapses, twitter becomes a ghost town
they were both so rapidly interwoven with us culture that their absence, at least from where i'm sitting right now, would feel like a gap
but i guess all i really mean is like 'they show tweets on the news' or 'facebook elected donald trump' and i suppose any next big thing could slot in there for 2028
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link
A large part of my sustenance is tied to spinning up instances to AWS. I also buy a few things every couple weeks from Whole Foods.
I use the "memories" side bar feature of FB to delete content from my account every day, which is probably the most useful and enjoyable feature of FB I've ever used.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link
TV elected Kennedy iirc
xp
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link
twitter is still great for real-time search, sadly
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link
we can replace Twitter's role there with a website that's just "type here if something terrible is happening around you"
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 23:10 (five years ago) link
let us never forget the short rise and fall of bloopblorp
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 15 November 2018 00:48 (five years ago) link
Neither Twitter nor Facebook is going anywhere imho, they have total network effect - Facebook was the first place where everyone you knew was on it, and it will serve as a way of keeping in touch with people and arranging gigs / parties for decades to come.
And Twitter is what they show on the news, and what elected the US president.
I mean, both of these are a corollary of "the vast majority of people don't give a shit about the stuff that extremely online people give a shit about"
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 15 November 2018 01:17 (five years ago) link
remember when people thought Facebook was going to be around forever and was an indispensable part of modern living
they'll be a shell of a company in 10 years, a zombie like Yahoo
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, November 14, 2018 5:22 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
people's memories are on there
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 15 November 2018 02:25 (five years ago) link
Neither Twitter nor Facebook is going anywhere
AOL still exists. Out there. Somewhere.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 15 November 2018 02:28 (five years ago) link
It is called Verizon
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 November 2018 02:36 (five years ago) link
This thread is good
I spoke to @ColorOfChange’s director about Facebook’s reported use of an anti-Semetic smear campaign to undermine their activism. https://t.co/omMP9hhx9f— Julia Carrie Wong (@juliacarriew) November 15, 2018
There’s something about this Soros story that feels significantly different than the usual Facebook scandal. Most recent negative Facebook stories are issues relating to challenges of scale and a tendency toward passivity.— Julia Carrie Wong (@juliacarriew) November 15, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 15 November 2018 05:13 (five years ago) link
most of what i hear about social media is through my co-workers
my spouse finally deactivated their facebook yesterday after spending months not interacting with anybody there and just reading. i guess that's some indication of how hard it is to let go. my boss was talking to me about an unpleasant argument with one of their relatives from the midwest on facebook. i think we have all this ideal of communication and exchange of ideas but there's this creeping realization that nobody is actually listening to each other. losing the pretexts people use to justify using facebook is an important step imo. the addiction is real but the good thing is the more people who quit the easier it becomes to quit, and i don't see facebook managing to reverse the process.
a lot of the youth seem to be gravitating toward instagram, which they think of as a superior alternative to facebook. the ignorance is depressing but i have yet to see the elder generation jumping on board.
twitter is good at getting talked about but in terms of actual usage i don't think it's gotten near the market share of facebook. it seems like everybody is on facebook, whereas twitter just has the loudest people. i do have some friends who insist there are viable uses for it, and of course folks here are tremendously fond of it, but i think it could sink more easily than facebook.
i continue to get most of my information from the feed on my android phone. mostly this is because i have spent several months telling it not to give me any information that isn't today's "nancy" and there's a sunk cost there. eventually something new will come along and it will probably turn out to be as bad as or worse than what we have now, i have no doubt. probably amazon will have something to do with it.
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Thursday, 15 November 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link
feel like twitter is only for the extremely online and facebook will be increasingly for the olds, like my aunt who still has an aol email address
fb will still have vast reach, but capitalism tends to frown on enterprises that can no longer grow
― mookieproof, Thursday, 15 November 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
this is always worth a look: https://www.statista.com/statistics/272014/global-social-networks-ranked-by-number-of-users/
hard to see FB dying anytime soon when you also include Messenger, WhatsApp, and IG
― rob, Thursday, 15 November 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link
if that's accurate it's amazing to think of the inflated media importance Twitter carries over say Tik Tok
― rob, Thursday, 15 November 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
i don't even know what tik tok is
― marcos, Thursday, 15 November 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
yeah it's for the youthhttps://www.theverge.com/2018/11/5/18009260/tiktok-musically-youtube-challenge-vine
― rob, Thursday, 15 November 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link
not surprisingly FB wants to devour them: https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/24/facebook-musically-competitor/
― rob, Thursday, 15 November 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link
what % of Tik Tok users are in China, would be my question
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link
good point. I should have just pointed out that Twitter has almost the same number of users as Reddit
― rob, Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
this is the real danger for facebook imo
this sort of seems like a ... correct diagnosis, no? like a gresham's law of social networks, the less normal people trust facebook the crazier it will get? https://t.co/QCnPIuGrEb— Matt Levine (@matt_levine) November 15, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 15 November 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link
i haven't read the referenced article because i have twitter blocked on my computer, but i'm not sure gresham's law would apply here - facebook is far more centralized than a site like for instance twitter is, and for extremism to increase there facebook would have to be okay with making extremism their overt business model. i think its particular doom is more likely to look like aol, but hell i can't predict the future
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Thursday, 15 November 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link
I don’t think there is any evidence at all that Facebook is not ok with making extremism their business model
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 15 November 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link
it's possible. i think there's going to be a fairly significant push for the new house to put them under significant scrutiny. we'll see how facebook manage that challenge - calling us all "anti-semites" will only get them so far, particularly if they're courting the daily stormer's audience at the same time.
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Thursday, 15 November 2018 23:41 (five years ago) link
what is a doom that looks more like aol? aol has failed in so many different ways over such a long time.
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 November 2018 23:46 (five years ago) link
a history of aol's acquisitions reads a bit like the golden state warrior's draft history before steph curry
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 November 2018 23:53 (five years ago) link
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, November 15, 2018
AOL's failure is kind of like Yahoo!'s -- mostly just failure to admit you caught lightning in a bottle once and you're never ever going to do it again.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 16 November 2018 06:40 (five years ago) link
Er, Yahoo is the sixth most visited website.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 16 November 2018 06:48 (five years ago) link
How much of that is because they bought the default search engine slot in Firefox though?
― koogs, Friday, 16 November 2018 07:50 (five years ago) link
(oh, it's back to Google again now, but for a while they switched to Yahoo)
― koogs, Friday, 16 November 2018 07:53 (five years ago) link
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 16 November 2018 08:29 (five years ago) link
The thing I don’t get about this FB scandal is that I’ve literally never seen the effects of it? Like I’ve never seen anyone getting slammed by Soros conspiracy theorists for criticizing Facebook. Am I misunderstanding how this works?
― crüt, Friday, 16 November 2018 13:41 (five years ago) link
different filter bubble?
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 November 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link
maybe it only happened on twitter
― crüt, Friday, 16 November 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link
the article's a bit vague about it, but I think those Soros theory articles were fed to conservative news sites (e.g., Breitbart)
― rob, Friday, 16 November 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link
it wasn't just one conspiracy theory angle, is the deal
it sounds like it was almost all seeded to right-wing sites like beetbort, but the point in that type of campaign isn't to create a compelling single narrative as to why facebook is a net good. it's to cast doubt on facebook critics from as many angles as possible so there's no consensus or allied front that would push for a boycott or punitive legislation. you just want to make anyone who criticizes facebook seem like a crackpot
― mh, Friday, 16 November 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
― mh
i'm not sure they're doing a very good job of this tbh
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Friday, 16 November 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
the big problem is that there are still a lot of people using facebook and _none of them like it_
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Friday, 16 November 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link
or maybe _some of them don't like it_
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 November 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link
_NONE_
― j., Friday, 16 November 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
even suckerberg seems to have lost his joie de vivre
with his dumbass posts about his stupid wonderful discoveries of life or whatever
― j., Friday, 16 November 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
never see those anymore
facebook is a self-maintaining birthday calendar that allows me to be as lazy as possible about stupid shit like birthdays. for this, i am eternally grateful.
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 November 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link
At some point approx a decade ago I somehow exported the birthdays in FB to my computer's calendar, and I've had it activated ever since. Every now and then I drop someone with whom I have only fairly tenuous attachment a little birthday note - VIA EMAIL - and cackle to myself
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 November 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link