I've only ever heard 'skism'. In keeping with all of those other Ancient Greek words like 'chaos' where the χ (ha) becomes a k.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 11:59 (five years ago) link
xxp (checks nearby 90s revision of Fowler's Modern English Usage)
Ah yes, "schedule" is that way round, Colonel Poo OTM. I think I theoretically knew that once but still always had the fear about it and then forgot the right way round.
Also re schism it says "The OED (1910) had only /'sɪz(ə)m/" (sizm, if my IPA doesn't come out) which is still preferred in church usage. Which I did not know, on either count.
skism still good to me, probably will stick with skedule in future now my tweedy ex-classicist former boss (much <3 to him) has retired, cz it was mainly him I felt self-conscious about language matters in front of. The main thing, though, would be to pick one and not get confused partway through.
― a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 12:02 (five years ago) link
In Ecclesiastical Latin, I assume it's pronounced 'shisma', much like the French 'schisme' (sounds like 'shism'). So the Anglican pronunciation is possibly sui generis, as is its wont.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 12:08 (five years ago) link
Interesting and most appropriate that its neutral gender in Greek and Latin should have given rise to an East-West split among Romance languages: masculine in French, Spanish and Italian, feminine in Romanian.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 12:12 (five years ago) link
Shism. I forget the meaning of the word and would have gone with skism if I could remember how ppl around me say the word but I can’t hear anyone say it in my mind.
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 12:39 (five years ago) link
it's not an english word; it's greek -- σχίσμα
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 13:28 (five years ago) link
I mean, σχίσμα is a Greek word; schism is an English word whose roots lie in Greece.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 13:35 (five years ago) link
That was exactly what I first said yesterday upon learning the annoying history of this English word. Then I said, I'll make a poll.
― mick signals, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 15 November 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link
Successful poll.
― ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link
I learned this word from Anthrax
― The Poppy Bush Autozone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 November 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link
scheptical abt this
― unproven (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 November 2018 00:11 (five years ago) link
so is the difference that it's pronounced sism in the UK and skism in the US, or is it more random than that
― Dan S, Thursday, 15 November 2018 00:19 (five years ago) link
No-one pronounces it sism and I know ILX is US dominated now but 33 to 1 seems unlikely.
― ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link
The two sism-sayers I met that inspired this poll are Americans in their 60s.
― mick signals, Thursday, 15 November 2018 00:32 (five years ago) link
According to one of them, if you ask Siri, Siri says sism.
― mick signals, Thursday, 15 November 2018 00:36 (five years ago) link
'Siri, say sism'
― Mark G, Thursday, 15 November 2018 09:51 (five years ago) link
Time to pass these findings on to the OED.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 November 2018 10:19 (five years ago) link
Whoa, "male from United States" says "sism" here: https://forvo.com/word/schism/#en . I honestly had no idea there was more than one pronunciation of this word.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 November 2018 11:56 (five years ago) link
'Female from United States' says both. Could it be a regional thing?
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 November 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link
My informants are from the working-class northeast but I was guessing it may be generational.
― mick signals, Thursday, 15 November 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link