Keep Your Head To The Sky: The EARTH, WIND & FIRE Track-By-Track Listening Thread

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I took the weekend off, but I'm back, so let's finish this first album up. First, the relatively weak soul track "This World Today":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrmHapuVIxk

And finally, "Bad Tune":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFP0K8RirR8

As sampled by Brand Nubian:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBM52Hd-KAQ

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 12 November 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link

"This World Today" is filler, but "Bad Tune" is an enjoyable instrumental trip.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 04:40 (five years ago) link

Earth, Wind & Fire's second album, The Need of Love, came out seven months after their debut (the first was released in February 1971, the second in November of that year). There were no singles, and it opens with a 10-minute track that transitions from BYG free jazz circa 1969 (seriously, compare those first two-three minutes with Archie Shepp's "Blasé") to Westbound-Funkadelic-with-horns, then goes into hardcore jazz-funk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VjcfhLJJNI

As sampled by DJ Shadow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDom9eXLUdI

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 13:19 (five years ago) link

this world today isn't bad, seems like it would serve well as soundtrack music. but there's not so much going on except those hilarious louis armstrong-esque background vocals at the end.

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link

Wow, who's playing sax on this? I caught up with the rest of the first album this morning, and there are some nice tunes that I might come back to, but this is far more ambitious and exciting to me, and sounds fantastic.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link

beginning of "Bad Tune" almost recalls Konono No. 1

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link

“Energy”: They’re still searching for their sound, but what an ambitious way to do it!

Loving The sample feature, btw.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link

"Energy" is amazing to me. I only own their Columbia albums (I bought the big box set with all of them), but there's a UK CD that has remastered versions of these first two on a single disc, and I'm gonna be buying it for sure.

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

lol this is the one I thought was the debut that I have a trashed copy of, it was also just reissued on vinyl

Blase comparisons are scarily otm

did they sign to Columbia after this one?

sleeve, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link

"Beauty" (The Need of Love, 1971)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDSrxMuQisc

Surprisingly not a single...or a sample source!

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link

Really get glimmers of what was about to happen in that one.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link

Obv a more straightforward tune than "Energy" but it makes a more indelible impression than most of the first album for me. Dreamy layered vocals and horns.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

did they sign to Columbia after this one?

Yeah, the band actually broke up after this album, and re-formed with a whole new lineup and signed to Columbia.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link

I don't love it, but probably the most EWF sounding thing so far. The horns are nice.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

The first two EW+F albums are their best.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link

Thank you for that. Looking forward to your thoughts on the first half of I Am in a few months' time.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

"I Can Feel It In My Bones" (The Need of Love, 1971)

Another Sly Stone/George Clinton knockoff...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD8kk4V6DkM

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 15 November 2018 14:33 (five years ago) link

"I Think About Lovin' You" (The Need of Love, 1971)

A plush ballad. Not a single, but it landed on Billboard's Hot Soul Songs chart anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PyUfKNdCuk

As sampled by the Fugees:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8sNnNRhQ2g

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 19 November 2018 12:30 (five years ago) link

Who's doing vocals on this?

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 02:13 (five years ago) link

I got a little ahead of myself and am listening to Open Our Eyes.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 02:20 (five years ago) link

"Everything is Everything" (The Need of Love, 1971)

Yes, it's a cover of the Donny Hathaway song "Voices Inside (Everything is Everything)", released the previous summer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hw_GtTLZs4

That's it for album #2; tomorrow, we start their Columbia Records debut, Last Days and Time. Note: that album contains three very short interludes, which we won't be bothering with.

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:03 (five years ago) link

I'm afraid I don't have much to say about the first two albums on the whole, but there are definitely rough draft sketches of "Shining Star" in that last tune.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link

"I Think About Lovin' You" stands out most from the last three for me. I can see why the Fugees sampled it. Other two are not bad.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

hammond tone on everything is everything is A+

twin sinema (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link

no Salty Peppers at the top? for shame

kidding. great thread!!

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link

xp The vocalist and songwriter for I Think About Lovin' You was Sherry Scott. She and the rest of the band quit after The Need of Love leaving Maurice and Verdine White. They also got dropped by Warner Bros.

Ρεμπετολογια, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:01 (five years ago) link

"Time Is On Your Side" (Last Days and Time, 1972)

They've switched labels, from Warner Bros. to Columbia, and assembled an almost entirely new lineup as discussed above, including Philip Bailey on vocals for the first time (accompanied by female singer Jessica Cleaves, who would leave after 1973's Head to the Sky). Smooth jazz saxophonist Ronnie Laws was also a member at this time. The music is still very Sly Stone-ish, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7gdjhox3vs

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link

One other note: the cover painting is by Mati Klarwein, who did Miles Davis's Bitches Brew and Live-Evil, Herbie Hancock's Sextant and Santana's Abraxas, among others.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 13:00 (five years ago) link

Yeah, this is def my fave EWF record cover. I so wish I'd picked up the coffee table book on Klarwein's album art before it hit the collector's market.

doug watson, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link

Surprised those horns haven't been sampled!

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 23 November 2018 12:11 (five years ago) link

Skipping a 23-second interlued brings us to...

"They Don't See" (Last Days and Time, 1972)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rxb4IP0vg4

Slick Philly-style soul. Their trademark style is starting to come together, but this is still pretty derivative of others' work.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 23 November 2018 12:29 (five years ago) link

Nice tune

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Friday, 23 November 2018 14:10 (five years ago) link

"Energy" is definitely my favourite so far, with "Beauty" next.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Friday, 23 November 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link

"Make It With You" (Last Days and Time, 1972)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdoU_iT3Q48

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 26 November 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link

Jessica Cleaves

is this the only overlapping personnel between EW&F and P-Funk?

Οὖτις, Monday, 26 November 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

does anything interesting ever happen in this catalog, asking for a friend

Οὖτις, Monday, 26 November 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link

Prove it.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link

The vocals on this remind me more of The Stylistics than EWF. Not a bad thing.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 00:53 (five years ago) link

Yeah, they were definitely doing a Philly soul thing at this point.

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link

"Power" (Last Days and Time, 1972)

This track feels like EWF coming into their own. It's an eight-minute instrumental that starts with a spacy kalimba-keyboard intro before the guitar comes in, and when the beat really drops at 2:15, it's saxophone solo time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZZDgsAHYSg

As sampled by Organized Konfusion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnUwGZwBpWI

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 12:22 (five years ago) link

now this cooks

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 12:47 (five years ago) link

Hell yeah.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link

"Remember the Children" (Last Days and Time, 1972)

Is it OK if I forget this song, though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4t-m1OqpNw

As sampled by DJ Quik:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXHeOL7_krg

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link

Belatedly, "Power" is their first fully awesome track.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link

(Though I kind of like the Gratitude interpolation with "Africano" better.)

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link

Belatedly, "Power" is their first fully awesome track.

perhaps not coincidentally, also the first one that's caught my ear and feels less derivative than other stuff (even though it definitely slots right in with similar stuff by Kool & The Gang, Cymande, Mandrill etc.) but it just sounds better thought out and composed, and the sax solo is appropriately freewheeling. Maybe I just don't like their vocals idk.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link

"Where Have All the Flowers Gone" (Last Days and Time, 1972)

Yes, the Pete Seeger song. Meh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC3VH-aAfyU

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 14:24 (five years ago) link

The most hysterical cut in their entire catalogue.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link

The vocal arrangement doesn't fit for the song. Just a bad idea all around.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

Yeah, this feels like an arrangement you'd write for a college music degree assignment. Apparently Clive Davis, The head of their new label, suggested they cut this and "Make It With You". I guess you don't tell your new boss where to stick his bad ideas.

Ρεμπετολογια, Thursday, 29 November 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link

Let's fast track that, please.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link

Glad you mentioned Powerlight because the singles at least rule.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link

I even stan for parts of Electric Universe but I realize that's probably taking it a step too far.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

I love that thin slinky post-disco sound of Raise!-Powerlight

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link

I just went through a EWF binge after reading Maurice White's book, and as much as I like them I think it would be a hard slog, because there are none of the obvious missteps or just plain crap songs that made the Eagles or Rod Stewart or Billy Joel fun to comment on. You need the good and the bad. How about Marvin Gaye post WGO, or Aretha?

― Ρεμπετολογια, Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:16 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't say I didn't warn you

Ρεμπετολογια, Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link


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