Homecoming, a good show on Amazon Prime

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don't click: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7008682/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

and it really is good, surprisingly so

incredible soundtrack and production design on this. love the long lingering ending shots

this guy delivers
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I'm assuming we can discuss end-of-series spoilers

did we get a resolution to his boss's phone call or was that a thread left untied?

haven't watched this yet but do heart Shea Whigham

oh yeah, this is a SPOILER THREAD just to be clear

I liked how anonymous the investigator is. We learn almost nothing about him.

If you guys missed this when I posted in the other thread, the soundtrack is all cobbled together from other movie soundtracks!

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8482923/homecoming-score-soundtrack-amazon-series-julia-roberts-music

What do you think Audrey was dabbing on her wrists in the post-credits sequence (thanks for pointing out that there WAS a post-credits sequence Jed_!)? Some other new medicine, or something to erase her memories?

think it was diptyque philosykos oil roll-on

Good theories here:
https://www.vulture.com/2018/11/homecoming-amazon-ending-credit-scene.html

has anyone listened to the podcast? is it very different?

Hong Chau is excellent in that long boardroom scene with Cannavale. Cannavale himself seems like wrong casting at first glance but it really works.

I agree that Shea is the star turn though.

I wonder what the budget for this was compared to the budget for The Return.

Cannavale really impressed me in this, more than anything else I've seen him in.

What do we make of the scene that opens episode six or seven where Julia Roberts sits at her desk and goes to move her pen, then the stapler, which are fixed in place then picks up the ringing phone but when she goes to lift the receiver the whole phone lifts off the desk and she grins. It's an excellent scene but I'm not sure what to make of it. It's almost like a prank by the production. I though JR was excellent in this btw.

What do we make of the scene that opens episode six or seven where Julia Roberts sits at her desk and goes to move her pen, then the stapler, which are fixed in place then picks up the ringing phone but when she goes to lift the receiver the whole phone lifts off the desk and she grins.

It was a prank Walter played on her - gluing all her stuff to her desk. She has her revenge later, in a really good scene.

I must have missed that setup!

But yeah, my problem is that she isn't adequately punished. She may not have known the full extent of the programme, but she knew she was imprisoning and drugging people against their will. The guys whose minds have been fried don't get to go on a roadtrip and have a second chance.

Now, I know that it's kind of about moving on from wrongs - whether the men moving on from their tours, Colin's wife's box, his mother saying that it's better he doesn't remember, filing the form and moving on, etc. But if the main takeaway is that it's okay to write your wrongs on a bit of paper, put it in a box and move on, that's kind of terrible.

That's a v interesting take. I hadn't thought about that at all.

Not a good take - it seems to have killed the thread...

I very suddenly stopped enjoying this show circa episode 8 when it lost a lot of its mysteriousness.

I really loved this. I liked getting to some conclusions, and not just leaving everything a mystery. So much to think about.

Wiping the soldiers' memories in order to send them back into combat seemed overly cruel, and unnecessary. Just eliminating their memories in order to help them back into their lives still raises some heavy questions. I mean, it seems wildly selfish for anyone who hasn't served to judge a soldier for erasing the memories of the shit they had to do. We (I haven't served) get to basically do that anyway, only engaging with the horrors of war as deeply as we prefer. On the other hand, the ability for commanders (or even soldiers) to wipe out the memories of war crimes and atrocities seems incredibly evil and ripe for abuse.

The punishment of Heidi is an interesting question. Should you be punished for something you don't remember? What if you made yourself not remember it? What would be the point of that punishment?

I don't know, I guess it's all freshman philosophy stoner shit, but I'm still thinking about it, so it worked for me.

good show. the plot/scheme didn't really make much sense ultimately but it looked great, was well-acted, had great music, etc.

did anyone else notice in the flashback where colin is interviewing heidi for the counseling job, they're at some other corporate office and its logo looks exactly like the leaf that schreier gave to the investigator?

So weird that a podcast was apparently made into a good show. I wonder if this will be more common in the future (doing audio proof-of-concept versions of shows to sell them).

https://www.theringer.com/tv/2018/11/26/18111849/dirty-john-homecoming-podcast-tv

there's a whole article about that trend. though it's oddly centered around "dirty john" which was an article before or at the same time it was a podcast and was, you know, real life before that

The investigator's boss and her phone call brought to mind phone Breaking Bad's Lydia.

I'm was getting a feeling that maybe part of the military's aim was to be erase something specific that Walter and his team saw/did on tour, and that the boss call had something to do with this.

Good show. I thought the acting/writing was clunky in the first episode but then I caught on to the Twilight Zone vibe.

this could have been in done in one episode of Black Mirror but I enjoyed it nonetheless. Acting/music/filming/editing was all A+ and the short episode run times made for a good short watch.

.@JanelleMonae is now the lead of Amazon’s Homecoming series https://t.co/PQV1L2batb

— Pitchfork (@pitchfork) July 23, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgW4IhG_xLg&feature=emb_title

disappointed that Shea Wigham doesn't seem to be in this. It also looks a little by the book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgW4IhG_xLg

I really liked s1. I've probably thought more about that season of TV more than most. This one seems a little more basic, yeah. What happened to all of the fun aspect ratio stuff.

This is not very good, sadly. It's now bad and still watchable but it's much more mundane and it just seems like another one of these kinds of TV shows, stylish in a banal way. Homg Chau seemed such a weird uneasy presence at the end of s1 and I thought that had so much potential, sadly they went another way with her character.

Hong Chau, that is.

i had a similar letdown with the second series of the podcast, but oscar isaac not being in it probably had just a leeetle bit to do with it

This is not very good, sadly. It's now bad

NOT bad, that should have said.

Four episodes into this. All I had were general recommendations from two friends; knew absolutely zero otherwise, so the paranoia-thriller mood was a welcome surprise. Went nuts trying to identify what turned out to be Carrie's prom music in Episode 4--I kept thinking Hitchcock--and then found out I'm missing all sorts of famous-soundtrack stuff from The Conversation, All the President's Men, etc.