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DON'T WANNA KNOOOW ABOUT THAT LOVE THANG!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 11 November 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

Wannabe, Say You'll Be There and 2 Become 1

a much lower strike rate than All Saints or even Eternal tbh

boxedjoy, Sunday, 11 November 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link

Those tracks are still great, but c'mon... 'Love Thing', 'Stop', 'Too Much', 'Viva Forever' ...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 11 November 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

"Stop" is just a really boring pastiche and "Too Much" and "Viva Forever" are just really sludgy, inert songs that don't play to their strengths as a group or as individual singers. I've never knowingly heard "Love Thing" mind you

boxedjoy, Sunday, 11 November 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link

and importantly, it isn't just that those not-good songs are simply not good: ones like "Spice Up Your Life" and "Mama" are actively bad

boxedjoy, Sunday, 11 November 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link

spice up your life is actively good tho

mark s, Sunday, 11 November 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

importantly

mark s, Sunday, 11 November 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

it's not really though - where those early singles were like real situations of friendship, intimacy, trust, etc, "Spice Up Your Life" sounds like a hard sell for a branding project, albeit one where a line like "yellow man in Timbuktu" seems to have been overlooked

boxedjoy, Sunday, 11 November 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link

'Spice Up Your Life' was written and recorded in an afternoon, and is all the better for it. Have a look at 'Recording' here, it's a bizarre story

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_Up_Your_Life

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 11 November 2018 22:50 (five years ago) link

"Chicago Sun-Times critic Jim DeRogatis was unimpressed with the lyrics, yet when comparing it to Aqua's "Barbie Girl", he found that its "unifying sentiment is more admirable"

:D

mark s, Sunday, 11 November 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

spice up your life bangs

Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Monday, 12 November 2018 02:05 (five years ago) link

meant bangs as a verb, but feel free to take the whole sentence as a command

Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Monday, 12 November 2018 02:07 (five years ago) link

It sounds like you’re sarcastically admonishing a long-dead rock critic to be more “poppist”

too busy or too stoned (morrisp), Monday, 12 November 2018 03:02 (five years ago) link

After being in love with rap for my whole life, 2018 has been the first time that I've felt like it has a very bad year for rap music. Dumb beefs, pointless deaths, lazy + phoned-in songs, bloated albums, and infuriating politics have become the centre of all discussions, with genuinely interesting and exciting music seeming to disappear completely. This is also a call for me to be proved wrong, please, if you do think there have been genuinely great things about in rap in 2018.

triggercut, Monday, 12 November 2018 10:39 (five years ago) link

rico nasty, tierra whack and a lil b mixtape (the admittedly bloated platinum flame) are the only rap i've liked this year, but i'm not rap's best spokesperson

listen to those things though

imago, Monday, 12 November 2018 11:13 (five years ago) link

Saba's Care for Me is quality.

pomenitul, Monday, 12 November 2018 11:33 (five years ago) link

i don’t get Durutti Column

― flopson, Freitag, 9. November 2018 20:37 (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just sounds like guy noodling on reverby guitar


What? Listen to this. Tribute to the singer of the greatest band of all-time.
https://youtu.be/xizIGLXT6Kg

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 12 November 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link

Saba's Care for Me is quality.

Really enjoying this, thank you.

triggercut, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 12:25 (five years ago) link

I recall several covers. ELO?


Yeah they often threw in a sort of half-assed “Do Ya” around that time

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link

Glad you like it, triggercut! 'Prom / King' in particular is a tour de force. I'll have to check out his debut as well.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 12:33 (five years ago) link

the saba is very kendricky and agreeable

ogmor, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link

i feel deeply in love with the sheck wes record but that's less agreeable

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 13:08 (five years ago) link

Mudboy is ace!

calzino, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link

Noname is doing great stuff as is Rapsody but they don't really fit into good narratives about what is cool in rap and also are women and too backpacker

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:11 (five years ago) link

Hadn't heard of Rapsody. Sounds cool, noted.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

I can't think of a single Kinks song other than 'You've Really Got Me' that I'd ever like to hear again.

pomenitul, Monday, 19 November 2018 11:27 (five years ago) link

('You Really Got Me', rather.)

pomenitul, Monday, 19 November 2018 12:43 (five years ago) link

Agree. And I'd rather listen to Van Halen's version than the original anyway.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 19 November 2018 13:15 (five years ago) link

Good stuff.

ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Monday, 19 November 2018 13:19 (five years ago) link

I'd rather hear Come Dancing or Apeman than You Really Got Me.

Frank Lloyd RONG (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 19 November 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

"Father Christmas" is the best Christmas song

brimstead, Monday, 19 November 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link

Hoping you mean Greg Lake's "I Believe in Father Christmas"

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Monday, 19 November 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

Hoping you mean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In3x_8cI2vY

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 19 November 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

I'd rather hear Come Dancing or Apeman than You Really Got Me.

I'd hardly call myself a Kinks fan, but Apeman is a sweet song.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 19 November 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

Not only is Apeman a good song, but (controp alert) the soundtrack to the movie "Club Paradise" - on which it appears - is a good record. Jimmy Cliff. Yellowman. Elvis Costello. Mighty Sparrow.

The movie itself is a goof but it has its charms. Twiggy, Peter O'Toole.

Frank Lloyd RONG (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 02:09 (five years ago) link

apeman is certainly the kinks most racist song. it's not where I'd begin my defense of them

ogmor, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:41 (five years ago) link

The absolutely gorgeous "This Time Tomorrow" is on the same album and we're stanning for Apeman? They have 3-4 dozen better songs

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:43 (five years ago) link

Is it more racist than "Black Messiah", ogmor? (I'd probably take "Black Messiah" over "Apeman", musically, though, if only by default.)

"A Rock 'n' Roll Fantasy" is my favourite of the Kinks songs I know. I don't really know why someone wouldn't also like "All Day and All of the Night" if they like "You Really Got Me".

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link

I don't really know why someone wouldn't also like "All Day and All of the Night" if they like "You Really Got Me".

yeah this just weird to me, the sound of those records is just perfect

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link

It had completely slipped my mind but yeah, I do like that song. Fuzzy Kinks are best Kinks.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:11 (five years ago) link

Is it more racist than "Black Messiah", ogmor?

I was gonna say, "Black Messiah" is pretty much explicitly racist.

"Apeman" is by far my least favorite song on Lola, and the live versions -- especially in the '80s/'90s -- are atrocious. I'd take 3/4ths of the not-exactly-amazing Everybody's In Showbiz over "Apeman."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:15 (five years ago) link

I don't really know why someone wouldn't also like "All Day and All of the Night" if they like "You Really Got Me".

yeah this just weird to me, the sound of those records is just perfect

― The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:56 AM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I always associated "Until the End of the Day" as part of that trilogy in my mind

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link

worst Kinks song lyrically has got to be "Art Lover", no question. despite Ray's reputation as a world-class lyricist he has a tendency to be really clunky when he writes outside his niche.

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link

I'd not heard black messiah... I think the accent is less straight up offensive than the one used to sing "i'm a king kong man, i'm a voodoo man, no i'm an apeman", it sounds more like sting.

ogmor, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link

How do we think the track Lola has held up on the problematic/unproblematic spectrum?

triggercut, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link

I think it's -- considering it's age -- remarkably good natured

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

i love the kinks but lola is embarrassing imo

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

I think the “worst” line is, ”Well I'm not the world's most masculine man.” Why couldn’t the narrator be a masculine man?

my guitar friend wants his money (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link

I think the story is even “better” if he’s a masculine man, no?

my guitar friend wants his money (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

this song was written in 1970

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link


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