This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2018

i guess it's a good thing Eminem didn't play that role

lmao that's such a dumb controversy, like obviously he shouldn't be dropping n-bombs but given the context there's clearly zero malice involved

has never mattered to snowflakes

they deserve all the awards

In a contest between Green Book and snowflakes ...

tbh I don't think anyone will remember this when the movie comes out and makes massive bank

I'm obviously being tongue in cheek. If Casey Affleck can win an Oscar ...

No idea if this is a thing or not, but this thread is baked on the premise of a whole bunch of non-things, so:

12th Annual Cinema Eye Honors

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN NONFICTION FEATURE FILMMAKING
Bisbee ‘17
Directed by Robert Greene | Produced by Susan Bedusa, Bennett Elliott and Douglas Tirola

Hale County This Morning, This Evening
Directed by RaMell Ross | Produced by Joslyn Barnes, Su Kim and RaMell Ross

Minding the Gap
Directed by Bing Liu | Produced by Bing Liu and Diane Moy Quon

Of Fathers and Sons
Directed by Talal Derki | Produced by Ansgar Frerich, Eva Kemme, Tobias N. Siebert and Hans Robert Eisenhauer

Three Identical Strangers
Directed by Tim Wardle | Produced by Grace Hughes-Hallett and Becky Read

Won’t You Be My Neighbor?
Directed by Morgan Neville | Produced by Caryn Capotosto, Nicholas Ma and Morgan Neville

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN DIRECTION
Robert Greene | Bisbee ‘17
RaMell Ross | Hale County This Morning, This Evening
Bing Liu | Minding the Gap
Talal Derki | Of Fathers and Sons
Sandi Tan | Shirkers

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN PRODUCTION
Susan Bedusa, Bennett Elliott and Douglas Tirola | Bisbee ‘17
Stephen Maing, Ross Tuttle and Eric Daniel Metzgar | Crime + Punishment
Josh Lowell, Phillip Manderla and Peter Mortimer | The Dawn Wall
Elizabeth Chai Vasarhelyi, Jimmy Chin, Evan Hayes and Shannon Dill | Free Solo
Ansgar Frerich, Eva Kemme, Tobias N. Siebert and Hans Robert Eisenhauer | Of Fathers and Sons
Daniel McCabe, Geoff McLean and Alyse Ardell Spiegel | This is Congo

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN EDITING
RaMell Ross | Hale County This Morning, This Evening
Julien Faraut | John McEnroe: In the Realm of Perfection
Joshua Altman and Bing Liu | Minding the Gap
Michael Harte | Three Identical Strangers
Jeff Malmberg and Aaron Wickenden | Won’t You Be My Neighbor?

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN CINEMATOGRAPHY
Jarred Alterman | Bisbee ‘17
Shevaun Mizrahi | Distant Constellation
Jimmy Chin, Clair Popkin and Mikey Schaeffer | Free Solo
RaMell Ross | Hale County This Morning, This Evening
Emmanuel Gras | Makala
Bing Liu | Minding the Gap

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN ORIGINAL MUSIC SCORE
Keegan DeWitt | Bisbee ‘17
Travis Wilkerson | Did You Wonder Who Fired the Gun?
Marco Beltrami | Free Solo
Nathan Halpern and Chris Ruggiero | Minding the Gap
Ishai Adar | Shirkers
Dan Deacon | Time Trial

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN GRAPHIC DESIGN OR ANIMATION
Syd Garon, Anton Goddard and Chris Kirk | Bathtubs Over Broadway
Toby Cornish | Beuys
Patrick Mate | Harold and Lillian: A Hollywood Love Story
Shofela Coker | Liyana
Lucas Celler and Sandi Tan | Shirkers
Ariel Costa and Rodrigo Miguel Rangel | Won’t You Be My Neighbor?

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN A DEBUT FEATURE FILM
América | Directed by Chase Whiteside and Erick Stoll
Distant Constellation | Directed by Shevaun Mizrahi
Hale County This Morning, This Evening | Directed by RaMell Ross
Minding the Gap | Directed by Bing Liu
Shirkers | Directed by Sandi Tan

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN NONFICTION SHORT FILMMAKING
Baby Brother | Directed by Kamau Bilal
Concussion Protocol | Directed by Josh Begley
My Dead Dad’s Porno Tapes | Directed by Charlie Tyrell
Skip Day | Directed by Patrick Bresnan and Ivete Lucas
Volte | Directed by Monika Kolecka and Karolina Poryzala

SPOTLIGHT AWARD
The Distant Barking of Dogs | Directed by Simon Lereng Wilmont
Island of Hungry Ghosts | Directed by Gabrielle Brady
The Other Side of Everything | Directed by Mila Turajlic
Roll Red Roll | Directed by Nancy Schwartzman
The Silence of Others | Directed by Almudena Carracedo and Robert Bahar
A Woman Captured | Directed by Bernadett Tuza-Ritter

Lol, love the single weird nomination for 'Makala' which is indeed one of the best shot films I've seen all year. Otherwise I'm rooting for 'Minding the Gap'.

has anyone seen the Greene?

the doc I keep hearing about this year is What are You Going to Do When the World's On Fire?

been meaning to check out both, not sure if they passed through yet

I'm obviously being tongue in cheek. If Casey Affleck can win an Oscar ...

― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, November 9, 2018 11:40 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he won in early 2017 - if Manchester By the Sea had come out a year later, he wouldn't have even been nominated. he won by the skin of his teeth.

x-post: Yeah, it's good. Solid reenactment doc, sorta like an Act of Killing for US anti-union history. But I felt I've seen most of it before.

yeah missed Bisbee when it ran here but i'm sure there'll be some year-end screenings

flappy otm re the New Oscars

European Film Awards noms

https://www.europeanfilmawards.eu/en_EN/nomination-current

^all five of those nominated films look interesting to me

went to a decently packed matinee of Boy Erased yesterday and the projectionist started playing Beautiful Boy instead 😂

Skip both

Jeez, Independent Spirit Award nominations are announced this Friday.

Boy Erased is like Joel Edgerton's acting.

I thought Flea was OK

I'm reading the memoir, and, boy, is it funnier/more fun than the movie

Some of the bigger dates this season, btw:

Film Independent Spirit Award Nominations (ISP) – November 16, 2018
National Board of Review (NBR) – November 27, 2018
New York Film Critics Circle (NYFCC) – November 29, 2018
Golden Globe Nominations (HFPA) – December 6, 2018
Los Angeles Film Critics Circle (LAFCA) – December 9, 2018
Screen Actors Guild Nominations (SAG) – December 12, 2018
Oscar Shortlists Announced – December 17, 2018

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-oscar-race-became-a-referendum-netflix-1160629

Some Academy skeptics are railing against Netflix's reliance on four-walling, a strategy akin to self-publishing in the cinema world, in which a distributor pays theater owners for the privilege of screening to the general public, rather than booking a theater and sharing a percentage of the gross. By four-walling, Netflix removes the burden of revealing any unfavorable box office numbers, a privilege none of the other companies releasing their best picture contenders the traditional way will enjoy. If Netflix secures a best picture nomination for Roma based strictly on these purchased screenings, multiple knowledgeable sources say they believe the film will become the first ever four-walled movie to do so in the modern era.

that's an interesting wrinkle

It’s November 15th. pic.twitter.com/RuifiA2FpD

— Mike D’Angelo (@gemko) November 15, 2018

John Waters is the only first list, year in and year out, to me. Nonetheless ...

http://time.com/5454739/best-movies-2018/

STEPHANIE ZACHAREK
01. Roma
02. Won’t You Be My Neighbor?
03. First Reformed
04. Eighth Grade
05. The Favourite
06. Can You Ever Forgive Me?
07. A Star Is Born
08. If Beale Street Could Talk
09. Bohemian Rhapsody (!)
10. Paddington 2

Truth be told, though, I don't know of any particular Phantom Thread or Silence proposition waiting in the wings this year. (Vice for sure ain't it.)

Alan Sepinwall tweeted that due to print deadlines, not only had he had to do his Best of 2018 list already, he had already seen a new tv show that deserved to be on that list.

LOL

i detest this premature shit more every year

You detest everything more every year

07. A Star Is Born
09. Bohemian Rhapsody
10. Paddington 2

waht

P2 is a defensible choice and it'll show up on more lists

And Bohemian Rhapsody is a runaway hit and I'm sure she's getting heat from her editor.

Paddington 2 is from 2017 in my book, but if it came out somewhere in 2018, it's definitely among the best of that year.

Yeah, it's pretty securely on my list at this point, and pre-judging what's yet to come.

i'm certainly running away from BR

Can You Ever Forgive Me? was good and its place in the bottom half of a top 10 is appropriate in a relatively mediocre year

Yeah, I'm not much in love with movies this year tbqh.

Feeling very 2006 to me, only this time there isn't a David Lynch to pull me out of it at the last minute. (Though there is a Cuaron.)

Damn, and 2006 was the year of sandbox, and there isn't much of a detrius thread to relive it: end-of-2006 film stuff (detrius 2, the Richard Donner Cut)

the Cuaron doesn't look like it's gonna get here until 2019 (just like Inland Empire in 2007)

otherwise i'm most excited for The Favourite and If Beale Street Could Talk

Infinite Football towers over anything else released this year, imo. But I'm guessing An Elephant Sitting Still will win most polls.

I hope everyone gets to see Transit before the year's out.

I have, but looks like 2019 for the US.

I'm guessing An Elephant Sitting Still will win most polls.

You're admirably odd.

wrong adverb

lol. I do want to see it

a lot of the films that got talked about at Cannes and Venice this year looked interesting to me: 3 Faces, Asako I & II, Ash Is Purest White, Border, Burning, Cold War, Capernaum, Donbass, The Favourite, Girl, Lazarro Felice, Long Day’s Journey Into Night, The Image Book, Manta Ray, Roma, Shoplifters, The Sisters Brothers, Suspiria, The Wild Pear Tree. I haven’t seen any of them yet, probably won't until 2019

I rolled up every shirt sleeve I own as I prepare to fight the "Roma fucking sucks, you lemmings" fight this season.

To clarify, I'm not saying 2018's slate of movies is bad (or 2006's, in retrospect). Just saying I'm in a hibernation cycle.

Ash Is Purest White rules, at least. Burning has been slightly overrated.

xxp I don't even have a bete noir this year :(

heh -- some of Denis' early '00s films were more annoying than LTSI.

I was going to say the advertising materials for LTSI are crucial to understanding what it's making fun of, but then I remembered what the poster for Certified Copy looks like:

https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/u-g-F4S5LB0.jpg

L'intrus made Twin Peaks: The Return seem pretty straightforward to me.

fabulous pinatas she's hanging from her ears

certified candy within

feels to me like Burning and Shoplifters were the two of the most amazing films of 2018

I count Zama as 2017

eventually saw it twice, think it is by far my favorite film of the last couple of years

neglected to post this

https://filmmakermagazine.com/107353-23-films-35mm-released-in-2018/#.XNXQJ6l7lBw

on that score, i'm enthusiastically looking forward to your review of Detective Pikachu

re: the 2018 films shot in 35mm, I really wanted to like Vox Lux (score by Scott Walker!) but I thought is was terrible, particularly Natalie Portman's performance

prob my least favorite movie of 2018 next to Proud Mary

yeah it was awful

the only thing I liked was that they ran the entire credits ~15 minutes in, but they play again at the end... stupid

but interestingly the credits ran backwards at the end

there were a lot of visual components of this I liked

but overall,,,no