Your 2020 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

not votin' for no cop

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, November 8, 2018 11:26 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think we'll all have to keep our minds open

I’m not gonna say word one against anyone who won’t vote for Harris bc she’s a cop

It seems like all these people have partnered with ActBlue for small $ fundraising now because it's easier maybe? But it does seem like the default setting, even though it gives you the option to play around with the allocation, is to go 50/50 and there's no way none of their web people have overlooked that.

a district attorney is not the same as a "cop" ffs

The attorney general of every state (or of the US as a whole) is commonly referred to as the "top cop."

That's not a common phrase in my mouth, in my house, or among any of my acquaintances.

Maybe "common" was the wrong descriptor. More like it's not unheard of for people to use that term.

otm

inslee will run btw, locally we are all planning on it (then constantine v ferguson for wa gov)

a district attorney is not the same as a "cop" ffs

oh c'mon they are prosecutors which are basically the cop's evil twin

will not vote for her in primary if possible, would vote for her in general because of course duh

Gillibrand was comedically evasive on Colbert tonight, but the implication is--thanks to Tuesday night--her 2020 campaign office now has both a location AND furniture picked out.

These people aren't going to Iowa and South Carolina for the culture. I expect at least two of the major contenders to announce before Valentine's Day 2019. Warren may do it before the end of the year, considering how eager she was to do that DNA stunt.

not that into Gillibrand either, what with the deliberately proud Blue Dog stance

does Duckworth have any negatives? I don't see any immediate red flags for me there

the deliberately proud Blue Dog stance

How recently are we talking? Because she's been no Blue Dog in quite a few years.

Maybe it's calculated and opportunistic, of course, but I also don't dismiss it out of hand. I'm a hell of a lot more progressive now than I was 10 years ago too.

She’s a combat veteran and a mother but the GOP will find ways to smear her for both of those things

xps re duckworth

I'm just glad people finally seem to have shut up about Tulsi Gabbard.

Having donated to her first Senate election, Duckworth was one of the poorer public speakers I've seen at that level of politics. Halting, strange emphases, a charisma sink (despite the artificial limbs). She's much better on Senate committees, and I hope she's become more confident since.

Like or not, if we wants a combat vet to out silverback Trump on a debate state, its Seth Moulton. I saw the 2016 debates as an affirmation that Trump was a narcissist bully that shouldn't be let anywhere near power. Too many independents saw otherwise. That rapist posture, lurking, grabbing chairs, claiming all the oxygen in the room, was something they didn't reject out of hand. Winning those voters may take going Camacho.

a district attorney is not the same as a "cop" ffs

I am reliably informed that in the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the police who investigate crime, and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders.

These are their stories. DUN DUN

a charisma sink (despite the artificial limbs)

Admit it, it would be pretty awesome if she had, like, cyborg flamethrower attachments

xp the DAs carry BADGES and they continue to INVESTIGATE CRIMES until TRUTH and JUSTICE have won the day

"Look at that statue. Do you see that blindfold that Lady Justice wears? She woke up in a bathtub and found that someone had harvested her eyes. And that's why I voted Blue Cop!"

everyone knows how much I love cops and prosecutors right lol

people judging candidates based on their past careers/positions is kind of stupid imo. look at where the candidates are now and how they're triangulating their positions to get elected - a good candidate is one who responds to the needs of the electorate, and if that means they advocate for different positions than they used to, that's not necessarily hypocrisy or being untrustworthy, it's being smart.

in trump's case it is 100000000% accurate tho

Let's Kill All the Lawyers

in trump's case it is 100000000% accurate tho

not sure what this is in reference to tbh

I think Hunt3r's point is Trump's professional life accurately predicted his political one.

trump represents actual valueless hypocrisy, the dark side of politicians responding to voters - here the con man as shimmering blob, morphing into whatever his marks want to hear at any given time, to be forgotten again minutes later with no consequences.

I happily voted for a woman who was a former CIA officer and had a photo of her and GW Bush in her TV commercial (as well as the same photo of her with Obama); she flipped a gerrymandered as shit district that was held by an asshole republican guy for ages and I don’t feel even slightly uneasy about this.

morphing into whatever his marks want to hear at any given time, to be forgotten again minutes later with no consequences.

This is why, barring incontrovertible evidence of massive criminality, Trump will win the Republican nomination handily. He accurately mirrors what goes on inside the heads of his supporters, no matter how ignorant, misguided, racist, or nonsensical those thoughts might be.

These people aren't going to Iowa and South Carolina for the culture.

up yrs Johnny Fever, some of the strivers actually visit to pump up interest in congressional elections

I'll admit that's the bare minimum of them, but it happens

I'll try to be more proactive in documenting the Iowa visitors who are the definite presidential strivers this cycle

It will probably pay dividends for Dem candidates to study the effects Trump's tariffs and the Chinese countertariffs are having on Iowa corn, soybean, and swine exports. It may not be high culture, but taking a clear stand in favor of free trade in agricultural exports may shift a lot of habitual Republicans there...

As for South Carolina, I'm guessing that they've been historically dependent on German capital, like the BMW plant. Numerous German multinationals are holding off on further US investment for the duration of this presidency.

Harder pulling ahead in D10 in CA

Er wrong thread

Nobody's gonna shift any Republicans, habitual or otherwise. Republicans are a death cult, and Presidential elections are understood as a strictly binary choice - My Team versus Satan's Team. (I'm excluding third party voters from this discussion because fuck those moss-brained suck-asses forever.)

...except those of us who live in irrelevant states, riiiiight?

Are you disputing the moss-brained or the suck-ass

you cur, i am much closer to moss-assed and suck-brained

who sucked your head?

lads

...except those of us who live in irrelevant states, riiiiight?

I exclude no one. Vote third party in a "safe" state*, you send the message to moss-brained suck-asses in "unsafe" states that it's OK for them to do it, too.

*there's no such thing

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unperson would you feel differently if at some point down the line a set of reasonably popular set of left figures took a stab at a genuine left party or do you see the US as uniquely doomed to forever be a two-party country where 40%+ just don't engage

(this is not a defense of jill stein)

unperson would you feel differently if at some point down the line a set of reasonably popular set of left figures took a stab at a genuine left party or do you see the US as uniquely doomed to forever be a two-party country where 40%+ just don't engage

Yes, I would feel differently if at some imaginary future point "the left" started focusing on running candidates for - and winning - local offices (school board, city council, mayor, state legislature) instead of just running for president in acts of public masturbation so egregious they'd embarrass Vito Acconci. So wake me up when that happens.

you send the message to moss-brained suck-asses in "unsafe" states that it's OK for them to do it, too.

yeah, fuck that. such people would be thicker than you are, if they existed.

wait a sec, i'm confused, i thought the Democrat Party was the only "left" in America

you know, the party that went to Trump's last wedding and took his donations

umperson, Nerdstrom and iatee probably have weekly write-hatemail-to-Susan-Sarandon parties.

"in acts of public masturbation so egregious they'd embarrass Vito Acconci"

lol <3<3 this made my day