Julia Holter

there’s a run of a few songs on the back half of this that are 👌🏻

... call me another convert to the walking. amazing record

I’d be very pleased if one of the outcomes of this thread is a whole bunch of new fans of The Walking.

Traffic was especially slow for this evening's commute, so I was able to get through the whole of Aviary and, for the remnants of my drive, I decided to just go backwards with Julia and went with In the Same Room. Only got about three songs in, but man, that album is so good. Some of the (re)arrangements on it are very much in the vein of proto-Aviary. I've had and enjoyed all her albums for a couple years now, but Aviary really is turning me into a Holter Stan. It was beginning to get there after In the Same Room came out, but Aviary is just so fucking epic. All the comparisons to the Jane Siberry record feel really appropriate because the more I listen to Aviary, the more it sounds like one of those super idiosyncratic, intense and passion-filled albums that seemed to show up every few years in pop music since the late 60s. Those albums like Trout Mask Replica, Skip Spence's Oar, and I'm sure there's an entire thread dedicated to similarly confounding (yet also irresistibly fascinating) albums that completely defy most precedents. I know the album is still brand new, but I definitely see Aviary in that same class. It's just such an "I don't give a fuck" move for her, but that the music also happens to be absolutely captivating scores tons of points with me.

I'm gonna go smoke a blunt and listen to the rest of In the Same Room.

Also, yeah on the Julia / Alice Coltrane comparisons. If you had told me that same thing after Have You In My Wilderness came out, I probably would not have been able to hear it at that point. But, it really picks up on In the Same Room (if you're just looking for one representative song in this sense, skip ahead to 'Vasquez'; fraf). Holy hell. I'm just in complete MIND= B L O W N mode right now.

Sorry. I'm gonna go fuck off and listen to the Cardigans.

Agree, Austin. In the Same Room is easy to overlook and/or underappreciate but it's a solid album and the rearrangements are great.

It's so fucking good, man! Jeez, it's good.

And I'm really enjoying what Alex is saying.

Has she played this record out yet with a full band? I would imagine it could quite a force of nature live.

i don't think she's properly started touring it yet, but she's expanding her live band for this tour so it should be impressive. i'm hopefully going to see her in february

Hope to catch her live again at some point but I'd also love to see some live sessions for KEXP/KCRW/whatever.

like a Paul Bley album from 1986

Not to derail the thread but this lead me to his record with Chet Baker which is so damn near perfect right now I suspect witchcraft.

is it? fragments with surman, frisell & motian is about the most perfect ecm album imaginable.

I'm listening to this now - thanks for the recommendation. ECM is a lifetime's project.

The way the ground shifts under Another Dream.

Seeing her in two weeks and then again a week later with the Tashi Wada group. Can't wait!

I just found her NTS mix of inspirations for Aviary. It's fascinating if you've been spending a lot of time with the album, and confirms some of the comparisons above.

https://www.nts.live/shows/guests/episodes/julia-holter-26th-october-2018

Excited to listen to that mix. Really amazing album.

Holy hell, she's into Steve MOTHERFUCKING Tibbetts.

I want to have her babies.

Notice that he has a writing credit on "Why Sad Song." I didn't realize it was a quasi-cover. The original is the final track in the NTS mix.

that nts set is great, thx for posting

Cool video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kNELAl5pb0

The concert in the Funkhaus in Berlin on the East side of the river Spree was brilliant. The venue, the old GDR radio building is quite special with the wooden floor, the maybe 10 Meter high ceiling, the steps you sit on and finally the stage which is rather in the middle and not at the end of the hall. I really enjoyed that I could clearly distinguish each instrument. Especially the restrained melancholic trumpet sound was amazing but I even loved the violin (usually I am not a big fan). Not to speak of the sonorous double bass, the bagpipes and the percussion. Holter's way of singing does not cease to impress me. The often pretty complex melodies and harmonies of the songs are in her voice which somehow often seems to go up and is really uplifting and transcendental. I really got used to the openness of the songs. My favourite was the encore "Betsy on the Roof" from "Wilderness" where her voice visits places nobody's voice has ever been to. Grand cru.

Envious! Glad you had a good time and I hope I get to see her with this expanded band. Has the setlist differed much from this one: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/julia-holter/2018/schauspielhaus-bochum-germany-23972457.html ? Other than "Betsy" for the encore.

There were other small differences to that setlist. First they started with the calm "In Gardens' Muteness" and only then played the loud cacophonous "Turn the Light on" which sounds like they tune their instruments. I found that a good choice to go from silence to noise and not the other way round. And then there was "I Would Rather See" which she wanted to play solo on harmonium next time. The songs sounded all a little different than on record, not as explicit, slightly estranged. It was a magic evening.

I was there too, Alex. Great gig. Wonderful sound. My only quibble with the Funkhaus is that it is uncomfortable sitting on the wooden floor/steps.

You are right about that, I sat on the right side quite close to the stage and after about an hour or so as there was nobody behind me l laid down and stretched out my legs. I am not so sure about the sound actually,
I hardly understood anything of her in-between song banter. But the reason was probably that she kind of whispered into the mike.

She speaks so slowly that its actually hard to follow.

I think she spoke quite fast (in interviews she speaks slowly and articulates very well and is easy to understand), she seemed a little nervous and I had the impression that she spoke more to herself than to the audience.

both times I’ve seen her she’s nervously made lots of goofy in-jokes between songs

sounds great you guys, would like to see her in a setting like that

her voice is so mimsy

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I've had the beginning of I shall love 2 in my head all morning where her vocals are indeed very mimsy, and it's made me realise how enamoured I am becoming both with this album and with those sorts of affected, contorted vocals more generally. I think her singing is great on this, she sounds v much like herself. All her albums have drawn power and dynamism from a sense of scale, that comfort & delight in personhood, the intimacy of being your small self in a vast swirling world. it's v affecting and charming to me.

Nothing like a excellent show to solidify your favourite album of the year, or maybe it’s an excellent album that’s solidifying my show of the year. In any case Holter is the cement that is setting quickly around my 2018 highs. Beautiful night. V well behaved audience.

Tashi Wada (who was the bagpipes and synth tonight) is leading a show with Holter next week and I think it will be quite different, but still cannae wait

Ugh, jealous. I'm weighing whether to make the trip to Montreal to see her in February. I'm dying to hear what something like "Chaitius" will turn into live.

This is pretty easily my favourite album of the year.

it was a really good show, she was extremely feeling herself in a way I found q inspirational and the audience were suitably enthralled. I have quite a way to go with getting a grip on this album and chaitius in particular is obscure w/ all the occitanian troubadour biz. it was quite fragmented live, but everything seemed simpler and breezier, more a matter of flowing between moments. she wrote "stay sweet in the melting world" on the album I bought. I'm glad she didn't write "the bananas are getting yellow!!!"

Cosign whoever it was who said this is a totally different album on headphones, there's so much digital trickery flying around the vocals in places, hidden sounds that are only noticeable up close.

Giving it my first listen after staying prudently away (don't know her well, I liked HYimW to some extent).
So far I really like its fragmentary and chaotic flowing nature, though it occasionally stalls (she did lose me around Everyday Is-Another Dream). I must be liking long open-form albums more than before. The one artist I think of is not Laurie Anderson or Coltrane but Meredith Monk; the three work of course, as it's both composed and free. Nice chameleon of an album, it is like a cascading collage of sounds, and after a while you forget that each minute is its own little pond. Impressive. Still five tracks to go.

She ducked under the synth and gave a few of us at the front a goofy wave at one point that made me chuckle. It's a good contrast - how playful she is within the very structured pieces of music.

OTM, I found her unexpectedly playful as a live performer, too.

I put on the new LP tonight for the first time and it was kind of blowing my mind. I was distracted with work tho. Gonna have make time to listen again when I can get nice and stoned and give it my undivided attention.

Also now tempted to splurge on some fancy headphones especially for the occasion

This album is amazing. And only gets more amazing on headphones, 'tis true.

Lj, what is your beef with her? You seem to aggressively dislike her for some reason. Just wondering.

the music bores me and there's so much of it and it's so in love with itself

I had follow up questions but tbh your answer is sufficient. Diff strokes I guess?

yeah plus i listened to it all two and a half times in a row which was long enough for sentiment to calcify

How would you all rate this record in her overall catalogue? I've been dabbling in some of her older music (only having heard a few songs previously), but haven't connected with anything in quite the same way. I should probably just pick an album and listen to the whole thing.

I still prefer To Have You in My Wilderness but I think if you like her you will like them all*

*I am not an expert by any means wrt Holter

In the Same Room! It's amazing and is nothing but highlights!

finally getting properly into Have You In My Wilderness, just in time for seeing her live in a few days

i still find "Feel You" and "Sea Calls Me Home" quite awkward rhythmically and they're probably what stopped me for so long, being almost something i'd like but not quite. it turns out the rest of the album has a very similar appeal to Aviary, just less sprawling

saw her last night in sydney, so good, vastly better than the previous show i caught (2013! shit)

expanded band really delivers

kept getting robert ashley vibes - something to do with the oblique approach to vocal styling maybe? or maybe just general sense of US 80s "artiness", dunno

Report from Brooklyn: She and her band were tremendous tonight. "Aviary" translated beautifully and her older stuff sounded great as well. Go see her.

she was really wonderful when i saw her last month

Very excited for Friday. Loud City Song tour was already overwhelming to me, so I can barely imagine how this one will feel.