SB 51: the California politics thread

wait hunter won? jfc

What's the matter with San Diego?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/7/18066314/house-midterms-results-duncan-hunter-winner

Camp Pendleton

Nah, that's NE county SD exurbs, pretty red to begin with (2R:1D) & they are certainly not going to vote for a guy who is half-Palestine/half-Mexican.

San Diego is pretty deep blue, but not out there

https://hunter.house.gov/our-district

Santee!

Can't believe prop 11 passed, 'Let's all get together and screw private ambulance workers!'

But otherwise not too bad here in CA.

the sooner we can never adjust our microwave clocks again the better

also Ammar Campa-Najjar still wouldn't have won if he'd become a horse and changed his name to Bill Stevens, so deep is the backcountry chaparral love for vaping veterans

But otherwise not too bad here in CA.

― fajita seas, Wednesday, November 7, 2018 7:22 PM (yesterday)

well, except for the fact that people were more concerned about the living conditions of animals that will become food than human beings who are renters, which is quite shit

same in 2008! chickens 01, gay people 00

And probably all the 2008 chickens are long eaten by now

The LA podcast today is a post mortem of the election and also the fact that one of our councilmen Jose huizar was raided by the FBI the morning after. De Leon is a future mayoral candidate and was state senator for the district that covers the council district. They’re speculating and repeating rumours that de Leon will run for this seat then mayor (he would walk both races, and in some ways LA council is a promotion from state senate).

lol xp

Also they make the point that running a state ballot measure for rent control, rather than incremental and local changes where costa Hawkins and local circumstances allow it (which is a few cities in socal, not sure about up north), was a major tactical error. (Largely made by noted LA crank and AHF syphilis invasion billboard guy Michael Weinstein).

It’s a good podcast imo btw https://overcast.fm/+Mkf9-9PBU

which is a few cities in socal, not sure about up north

I would be surprised if San Francisco didn't have the strongest tenant protections in the state. Berkeley has some, as do Oakland, and some smaller Bay Area cities.

Right but the way Costa Hawkins work affects a city’s ability to vote to expand the rent control aspect of those protections in weird/complex ways. Prop 5 would have repealed costa Hawkins, but some city’s still have wiggle room. I’d be surprised if sf wasn’t already it it’s limits.

Ps https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/11/05/gavin-newsom-the-next-head-of-the-california-resistance

Did anyone see yet if there’s a supermajority in both houses? The count was drifting left in the sense it might be but it wasn’t enough yet when I tried to figure out.

Election Day may be over, but California has more than 4.5 million ballots left to count.

The uncounted ballots could push voter turnout to nearly 60 percent of those registered. Participation in a non-presidential election has not hit 60 percent in California since 1994, although it hit 59 percent in 2010.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article221392480.html

Did anyone see yet if there’s a supermajority in both houses?

Does this matter a lot with a Democratic governor?

A supermajority would allow the Democrats to pass any legislation without GOP help. As I understand it they already have a supermajority in the Assembly. In the Senate they need 27 seats, and according to Politico: “it now appears Democratic Sen. Ricardo Lara is in good shape to become insurance commissioner, which would leave a vacancy for months in the upper house. And the race in District 12 between Democrat Anna Caballero and Republican Rob Poythress remains too close to know if Democrats will have 27 even if Lara departs.”

Heard a politician refer to the legislature in Illinois now as a super-supermajority.

Does this matter a lot with a Democratic governor?

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, November 9, 2018 10:05 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes. certain kinds of legislation (mostly money-raising stuff, i think?) requires 2/3 majorities (in both houses?) to pass.

ohhhhh, OK

(mostly money-raising stuff, i think?)

Two-thirds is required for any tax-related stuff.

also Ammar Campa-Najjar still wouldn't have won if he'd become a horse and changed his name to Bill Stevens, so deep is the backcountry chaparral love for vaping veterans

― del griffith, Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:29 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wtf thats my name, dude. :o

How do you Angelenos like Garcetti?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0JNZhm3NNo

He didn't correct the "breakdancing" bit (he's popping), so I am already wary.

He sang the shit out of the national anthem at a roller derby event I went to when he was a city councilman but he kinda sucks. He’s ambitious as hell kinda like newsom.

He’s also less of a crowd pleasing blank slate than newsom. He has (bad) opinions. He will get nowhere if he runs in 2020.

the mayor of LA hardly does anything. the city council has all the power. hes a glorified cheerleader. all he accomplished was bagging the olympics that nobody really wants and is gonna fuck up the city.

he was in training for the job at 18 and presumably before that but hey I for one like him

I look forward to voting for him when he runs for governor

insanely close race (0.1% lead) but the public school guy just pulled ahead of the charter school guy in SPI

#.SPI Update pic.twitter.com/7brkOKjOyF

— CATargetBot (@CATargetBot) November 13, 2018

Oh hell yes! Go Tony!!

Feel like both of those guys have their merits but are both pretty flawed too...

That's kinda like saying Obama and Hitler are both pretty flawed

lol, you sound rational.

Charter schools are basically a scheme to allow speculators to harvest wealth from state and local taxes with education of children as an incidental side effect.

Universal free primary+secondary education is one of America's two good ideas and charter schools are a perversion

They're basically on the same page, hardline Dems who come from the non-profit education sector :

* Both Thurmond & Tuck are anti-FOR-PROFIT charter schools.
* Both want to shut down charter schools that are failing & mishandling public funds.
* Both are self-proclaimed neutral on whether they are pro- or anti- Charter Schools.
* Both had ugly, untrue campaigns of deception trying to slander the other candidate.

Their only significant difference is on local districts' ability to appeal charter schools approval (Thurmond anti-, Tuck pro-*)... *only in rural areas of California.

My main beef with Thurmond is he lacked the spine to vote on AB1220**, something that would help define his stance in the race but instead showed him to be prone to petty political power moves.

**http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB1220

I need to dig into this so thank you, but “non profit” education seems like very careful branding.

Charter schools are basically a scheme to allow speculators to harvest wealth from state and local taxes with education of children as an incidental side effect.

― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, November 13, 2018 9:52 AM (three hours ago

yes, and, to do so while fostering increasing inequity/inequality of opportunity for the children being educated. It's a real, serious problem in urban areas with a lot of poverty and income inequality

I need to dig into this so thank you, but “non profit” education seems like very careful branding.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, November 13, 2018 11:07 AM (two hours ago)

yeah, it pretty much is saying, I am fine with charter schools except for the ones that are too incompetent and stupid to fill out the right forms and check the right boxes so that they actually get denied tax-exempt status.

yo bryce, if you are reading this thread, post about this, because it's something you actually deal with irl, and we're just being typical ilxors who are having opinions about things

the problem we have with charters in oakland is that they don't enroll kids with special needs at the rate the district schools do, which leaves the district with higher costs even while they drain its coffers (up to $57M/year lost in oakland). there is little evidence that charters outperform public schools in general, and many locally have serious corruption problems. it's absurd that, per state law, the financial costs of charters can't be considered when deliberating their approval. i understand that thurmond at least backed a temporary halt to charter approvals so the state could properly assess their costs, while tuck did not.

i send my daughter to a public school here, but dealing with ousd administration is an exercise in futility. administrators regularly lie to parents with impunity, and our board member is disengaged with the community. i totally understand why parents would seek other options. that said, the teachers and principals we've dealt with have been fantastic. i agree with silby upthread. we need to properly restore funding to our public schools at all levels.

the nearest charter school to us shut two weeks into the school year.

Uh, so the Democrat who's probably about to win a usually-Republican seat on the California Board of Equalization is a disbarred lawyer and perennial candidate who was previously ordered to stay at least 100 feet away from comedian Brad Garrett. https://t.co/MkrlixLfqF https://t.co/RBGhb1sZ8A

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) November 13, 2018