I assume that's another thing we can thank Prop 13 for.
― Captain Hardchord (Leee), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link
wait hunter won? jfc
― Scam jam, thank you maβam (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link
What's the matter with San Diego?
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/7/18066314/house-midterms-results-duncan-hunter-winner
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:12 (five years ago) link
Camp Pendleton
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link
Nah, that's NE county SD exurbs, pretty red to begin with (2R:1D) & they are certainly not going to vote for a guy who is half-Palestine/half-Mexican.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link
San Diego is pretty deep blue, but not out there
https://hunter.house.gov/our-district
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
Santee!
― sarahell, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link
Can't believe prop 11 passed, 'Let's all get together and screw private ambulance workers!'
But otherwise not too bad here in CA.
― fajita seas, Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:22 (five years ago) link
the sooner we can never adjust our microwave clocks again the better
― del griffith, Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:27 (five years ago) link
also Ammar Campa-Najjar still wouldn't have won if he'd become a horse and changed his name to Bill Stevens, so deep is the backcountry chaparral love for vaping veterans
― del griffith, Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:29 (five years ago) link
β fajita seas, Wednesday, November 7, 2018 7:22 PM (yesterday)
well, except for the fact that people were more concerned about the living conditions of animals that will become food than human beings who are renters, which is quite shit
― sarahell, Friday, 9 November 2018 00:44 (five years ago) link
same in 2008! chickens 01, gay people 00
― Dan S, Friday, 9 November 2018 00:48 (five years ago) link
And probably all the 2008 chickens are long eaten by now
― sarahell, Friday, 9 November 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link
The LA podcast today is a post mortem of the election and also the fact that one of our councilmen Jose huizar was raided by the FBI the morning after. De Leon is a future mayoral candidate and was state senator for the district that covers the council district. Theyβre speculating and repeating rumours that de Leon will run for this seat then mayor (he would walk both races, and in some ways LA council is a promotion from state senate).
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 00:53 (five years ago) link
lol xp
― Dan S, Friday, 9 November 2018 00:55 (five years ago) link
Also they make the point that running a state ballot measure for rent control, rather than incremental and local changes where costa Hawkins and local circumstances allow it (which is a few cities in socal, not sure about up north), was a major tactical error. (Largely made by noted LA crank and AHF syphilis invasion billboard guy Michael Weinstein).
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 00:56 (five years ago) link
Itβs a good podcast imo btw https://overcast.fm/+Mkf9-9PBU
which is a few cities in socal, not sure about up north
I would be surprised if San Francisco didn't have the strongest tenant protections in the state. Berkeley has some, as do Oakland, and some smaller Bay Area cities.
― sarahell, Friday, 9 November 2018 01:00 (five years ago) link
Right but the way Costa Hawkins work affects a cityβs ability to vote to expand the rent control aspect of those protections in weird/complex ways. Prop 5 would have repealed costa Hawkins, but some cityβs still have wiggle room. Iβd be surprised if sf wasnβt already it itβs limits.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link
Ps https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/11/05/gavin-newsom-the-next-head-of-the-california-resistance
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 01:05 (five years ago) link
Did anyone see yet if thereβs a supermajority in both houses? The count was drifting left in the sense it might be but it wasnβt enough yet when I tried to figure out.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 01:09 (five years ago) link
Election Day may be over, but California has more than 4.5 million ballots left to count.The uncounted ballots could push voter turnout to nearly 60 percent of those registered. Participation in a non-presidential election has not hit 60 percent in California since 1994, although it hit 59 percent in 2010.
The uncounted ballots could push voter turnout to nearly 60 percent of those registered. Participation in a non-presidential election has not hit 60 percent in California since 1994, although it hit 59 percent in 2010.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article221392480.html
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 November 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link
Did anyone see yet if thereβs a supermajority in both houses?
Does this matter a lot with a Democratic governor?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 November 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link
A supermajority would allow the Democrats to pass any legislation without GOP help. As I understand it they already have a supermajority in the Assembly. In the Senate they need 27 seats, and according to Politico: βit now appears Democratic Sen. Ricardo Lara is in good shape to become insurance commissioner, which would leave a vacancy for months in the upper house. And the race in District 12 between Democrat Anna Caballero and Republican Rob Poythress remains too close to know if Democrats will have 27 even if Lara departs.β
― Dan S, Friday, 9 November 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
Heard a politician refer to the legislature in Illinois now as a super-supermajority.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 November 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link
Does this matter a lot with a Democratic governor?β Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, November 9, 2018 10:05 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
β Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, November 9, 2018 10:05 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes. certain kinds of legislation (mostly money-raising stuff, i think?) requires 2/3 majorities (in both houses?) to pass.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
ohhhhh, OK
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 November 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link
(mostly money-raising stuff, i think?)
Two-thirds is required for any tax-related stuff.
― Captain Hardchord (Leee), Friday, 9 November 2018 19:00 (five years ago) link
also Ammar Campa-Najjar still wouldn't have won if he'd become a horse and changed his name to Bill Stevens, so deep is the backcountry chaparral love for vaping veteransβ del griffith, Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:29 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
β del griffith, Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:29 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wtf thats my name, dude. :o
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 9 November 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link
How do you Angelenos like Garcetti?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0JNZhm3NNo
― Captain Hardchord (Leee), Friday, 9 November 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link
He didn't correct the "breakdancing" bit (he's popping), so I am already wary.
― Captain Hardchord (Leee), Friday, 9 November 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link
He sang the shit out of the national anthem at a roller derby event I went to when he was a city councilman but he kinda sucks. Heβs ambitious as hell kinda like newsom.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 9 November 2018 21:01 (five years ago) link
Heβs also less of a crowd pleasing blank slate than newsom. He has (bad) opinions. He will get nowhere if he runs in 2020.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link
the mayor of LA hardly does anything. the city council has all the power. hes a glorified cheerleader. all he accomplished was bagging the olympics that nobody really wants and is gonna fuck up the city.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 9 November 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link
he was in training for the job at 18 and presumably before that but hey I for one like him
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 10 November 2018 04:04 (five years ago) link
I look forward to voting for him when he runs for governor
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 10 November 2018 04:07 (five years ago) link
insanely close race (0.1% lead) but the public school guy just pulled ahead of the charter school guy in SPI
#.SPI Update pic.twitter.com/7brkOKjOyF— CATargetBot (@CATargetBot) November 13, 2018
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 03:32 (five years ago) link
Oh hell yes! Go Tony!!
― Fetchboy, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 03:35 (five years ago) link
Feel like both of those guys have their merits but are both pretty flawed too...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 04:23 (five years ago) link
That's kinda like saying Obama and Hitler are both pretty flawed
― sarahell, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 07:34 (five years ago) link
lol, you sound rational.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link
Charter schools are basically a scheme to allow speculators to harvest wealth from state and local taxes with education of children as an incidental side effect.
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
Universal free primary+secondary education is one of America's two good ideas and charter schools are a perversion
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
They're basically on the same page, hardline Dems who come from the non-profit education sector :
* Both Thurmond & Tuck are anti-FOR-PROFIT charter schools.* Both want to shut down charter schools that are failing & mishandling public funds.* Both are self-proclaimed neutral on whether they are pro- or anti- Charter Schools.* Both had ugly, untrue campaigns of deception trying to slander the other candidate.
Their only significant difference is on local districts' ability to appeal charter schools approval (Thurmond anti-, Tuck pro-*)... *only in rural areas of California.
My main beef with Thurmond is he lacked the spine to vote on AB1220**, something that would help define his stance in the race but instead showed him to be prone to petty political power moves.
**http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB1220
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
I need to dig into this so thank you, but βnon profitβ education seems like very careful branding.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link
β I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, November 13, 2018 9:52 AM (three hours ago
yes, and, to do so while fostering increasing inequity/inequality of opportunity for the children being educated. It's a real, serious problem in urban areas with a lot of poverty and income inequality
― sarahell, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link
β π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, November 13, 2018 11:07 AM (two hours ago)
yeah, it pretty much is saying, I am fine with charter schools except for the ones that are too incompetent and stupid to fill out the right forms and check the right boxes so that they actually get denied tax-exempt status.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link
yo bryce, if you are reading this thread, post about this, because it's something you actually deal with irl, and we're just being typical ilxors who are having opinions about things
― sarahell, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link
the problem we have with charters in oakland is that they don't enroll kids with special needs at the rate the district schools do, which leaves the district with higher costs even while they drain its coffers (up to $57M/year lost in oakland). there is little evidence that charters outperform public schools in general, and many locally have serious corruption problems. it's absurd that, per state law, the financial costs of charters can't be considered when deliberating their approval. i understand that thurmond at least backed a temporary halt to charter approvals so the state could properly assess their costs, while tuck did not.
i send my daughter to a public school here, but dealing with ousd administration is an exercise in futility. administrators regularly lie to parents with impunity, and our board member is disengaged with the community. i totally understand why parents would seek other options. that said, the teachers and principals we've dealt with have been fantastic. i agree with silby upthread. we need to properly restore funding to our public schools at all levels.
― wmlynch, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 23:35 (five years ago) link
the nearest charter school to us shut two weeks into the school year.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 23:58 (five years ago) link