Lou Reed & Metallica - Lulu Poll

yeah, there are early junior dads stretching back to 2008 or thereabouts ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhaUDl4jbS0

there's probably enough stuff for LULU: RELULUED ... 10th anniversary release?

thank you thread revive for inspiring me to rewrite my book proposal

brad, i will buy your book

if i ever get an agent i'll tell them we already have one book sold

make that 2!

i still have never listened to this album. maybe today is the day

xp Only two people bought Brad Nelson's book about Lulu, but both of them went on to write their own books about Lulu

Zero votes for "Cheat On Me" wtf guys

why do we cheat on ourselves

The window broke the silence of the matches
The smoke effortlessly floating

Is it unfair to ask you
To help pull me up

RIP Lulu producer Hal Willner

Listening to the boot of the VU to Lulu live set from Lou's last tour and right away on Brandenburg Gate, which otherwise sounds fine, the backing vox are just regular people singing "small town girl", like in a way completely normal people who went to college for music but also listen to Can and have a lot of good dub records would sing it and not the over-the-top "small-TOWN GRRRL!"s that we endlessly clowned James on for becuz he is a maniac and right there that is why Metallica is the ONLY band who could have made this record with Lou because Lulu is a record about maniacs, written by a maniac and played by maniacs. It isn't a good or polite or pretty record, it's a mean, weird grotesque played by and for people who sleep on a mattress on a floor and think about Lemmy as they fall asleep and first thing in the morning and have two different bullet-belts, a nice one and one for everyday wear.

otm!!!!!

SMALL TOWN GIRL

Say whatever else you want but you can never claim that when James sang it he didn't mean SMALL TOWN GIRL with every fucking fiber of his being

great post

lulu for life

I will say any concert that ends with Sad Song into Junior Dad better have grief counsellors in the fucking lobby

One of my favorite ilm posts in some time, v v v otm.

two different bullet-belts, a nice one and one for everyday wear

This in particular.

I actually got the impression that the people who liked this were Lou fans, not metal or Metallica fans.

...and sure, Lou obviously knows something about weird, mean grotesques also.

Lou fans, not metal or Metallica fans.

― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:46 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

all of the above, myself

surely the critics who pilloried this record love lou reed

Yeah, all the above for me too. Although when this came out I was def more of a VU and '70s Lou fan, it was actually this album that nudged me towards finally checking out his later solo stuff with more intention.

It seems to me that his reviews had been tepid since Magic and Loss 17 years earlier. None of the critics should have been "shocked" or disappointed by the lyrics on Lulu if they had listened to Ecstasy and The Raven.

I wonder if there is anyone (not a Metallica die-hard) who thinks this is Lou's only good record?

Listening to LULU right now

my small town girl

you're just a small town girl who's gonna give lulu a whirl

there is no time for guilt
or second guessing

and here's that VU > LULU set from 2012 chris mentioned: https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/641027816435089408/lou-reed-heineken-music-hall-amsterdam
it's good!

Yes! It is very good, the other funny thing on it is a regular human being drummer (a really good one at that) attempting to play Lars's parts on Mistress Dread

haha, yeah — it's pretty funny, Lou's drummer really has to handle a lot of different modes, from moe tucker's ultra-minimal "waiting for the man" thing to "mistress dread" ...

FYI Lulu headz — Metallica is selling the deluxe version for a song over here: https://www.metallica.com/store/clearance/?start=0&sz=12

Great revive

If only you could stream this! (I loaned this record to someone ages ago and never got it back.)

Well, surely Junior Dad is up on YouTube

it's on streaming now!

It is? I just checked Apple Music and didn’t see it

ah it's on Spotify they probably shelled out big bucks for the exclusive haha

Aha

I just stumbled on this

https://heinaliandmattfinney.bandcamp.com/track/junior-dad

Listened to the actual “Junior Dad” for the first time in a while and it reminded me (somewhat) of this underheralded LP, a Jane’s Addiction side project

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=961Cv9KsJUE

FYI Lulu headz — Metallica is selling the deluxe version for a song over here: https://www.metallica.com/store/clearance/?start=0&sz=12

― tylerw, Thursday, January 28, 2021 6:56 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Unfortunately, $51 shipping to the UK

Weird that Lulu isn't on Apple Music now becuz it certainly was at one point, fortunately I have it on at least two other formats, phew.

Forever sad that Lou & Metallica never did a real live show of this, only this German tv show deal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF2os5l2Nog

Unless tyler knows of an actual show and he's holding out on us!

i think that is it in terms of live Lulu w/ Metallica ... should we be hoping for a lavish 10th anniversary boxed set this year. (I jest, but I do think that there are probably early recordings of these songs w/o metallica ... he was playing some of them live in the years prior.)

I believe they did a spot on 'Later', certainly they did a version of "White Light White Heat"

I'm not a big fan of either Metallica or Lou Reed, but I am listening to this for the first time in a couple of years and man do I love this album.

I still remember my first listen of this when it was released or leaked. I was listening totally ready to make fun of it (and remember laughing at James's singing of "home town girl" and Lou's "C'mon James!"). I think it was sometime during "Mistress Dread" that I started thinking that this isn't bad actually. By the second half of the album I was totally into it.

I'm skipping Iced Honey though, that song just doesn't work

I think it was sometime during "Mistress Dread" that I started thinking that this isn't bad actually. By the second half of the album I was totally into it.

― silverfish, Friday, January 29, 2021 12:40 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

my first listen was the same experience

i have sung "iced honey" at karaoke it's great

I could see it being fun at karaoke

The biggest mistake they made in marketing this was not elucidating the narrative framework and characters. Not that it would have made the record a big seller, but it would have been a defence against people saying "this is just Lou's sex fantasy", etc. etc.

As it is, they threw out this long, wordy album and let the world make sense of it as best it could (not very generously).