I guess "cow" counts as one ingredient...
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 November 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link
I guess the theory is that potatoes contain all the essential amino acids which is where you'd be scuppered with other foods. Obviously vitamin and mineral deficiencies would be an issue
― Number None, Thursday, 1 November 2018 23:21 (five years ago) link
Some people at Stalingrad just ate clay from the ground for months and somehow managed to survive
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 November 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link
tbf some people at Stalingrad ate people
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 November 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link
someone should convince Jordan Peterson to give up water
PLEASE tell me you've all seen the article about the ppl who refuse to drink water cause it grosses them out
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 November 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link
anyway "pick only one food to survive on" would be a fun poll
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 November 2018 23:33 (five years ago) link
he really will get scurvy if he eat meat and absolutely nothing else. he reaaallly does not want scurvy.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 1 November 2018 23:36 (five years ago) link
Eggs
― brownie, Thursday, 1 November 2018 23:37 (five years ago) link
bananas, esp if this includes savoury bananas
― ogmor, Thursday, 1 November 2018 23:52 (five years ago) link
Rainwater and pure grain alcohol
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 2 November 2018 00:27 (five years ago) link
Mosquitoes
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 2 November 2018 11:44 (five years ago) link
Professor-Doctor Jordan B Peterson's introduction to The Gulag Archipelago is up on (of course) Quillette, if you want to claw your own eyes out. I imagine @PenguinBooks will end this month a little bit richer and a lot more ashamed than they were last month pic.twitter.com/rx9Q9tHsHi— PDK Mitchell (@pdkmitchell) November 2, 2018
― Neil S, Friday, 2 November 2018 11:55 (five years ago) link
The Sun does have much better reproductive opportunities than poor planet Earth
― Freda VanFleet (symsymsym), Friday, 2 November 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link
http://imgur.com/Qvtiqytl.png
― mick signals, Saturday, 3 November 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link
everything is unequal therefore that is how it should be; only the west is unequal because others have no wealth; adam smith's invisible hand is a judeo-christian tradition
― adam the (abanana), Saturday, 3 November 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link
I like this guy. I don't agree with everything he says, but he gets me to think about some esoteric shit.He's like a well read stoner who's always like, "what about this..."
I don't think he makes himself out to be a know-it-all. He's always saying "I don't know... I think it might be this..."
― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link
what do you agree with
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link
Considering the quality of your life, for one.
― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link
it's true, no one else in human history has encouraged us to contemplate the mysteries
― gbx, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
Wow I bet all the other self help grifters are kicking themselves for not coming up with that one
― coetzee.cx (wins), Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
I love that he suggests that it's to be expected to have some anxiety and fear and that life can be hard, and that one might want to be more aggressive and in the driver's seat to get by better.
― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link
Unlike self help grifters, I don't think he pushes a method.
― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
I love that he suggests that it's to be expected to have some anxiety and fear and that life can be hard, and that one might want to be more aggressive and in the driver's seat to get by better.― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, November 3, 2018 10:23 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, November 3, 2018 10:23 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is a thoroughly banal observation, though, and available to you from countless other sources that aren't misogynists, transphobes, and dietary weirdos
― gbx, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
Bullshit, except maybe the diet stuff.
― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
I look around at the world today and think yanno what's missing? needs to be more people being aggressive
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link
nicky, this is not gonna go where you want this to go
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link
What the world needs are more quick self-rightous judgements, and opinions.
― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link
i think the tweet from ilx's max was a good peterson obv--that he appeals to people who were deprived of having a good humanities education. peterson makes connections between the big questions of history and religion and the things that people grapple with in their own lives. this should be familiar to most people but it's not always because our education system tends toward specialization. so some of peterson's fans might not realize that there are other, better intellectuals to read who have addressed this subjects in more satisfying, less prejudiced ways
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
*peterson observation
i think jp sucks and is a charlatan but he is filling a certain lack that exists in our society
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link
just like McDonald's does
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
exactly. it's fast food humanities and--surprise surprise--like mcdonald's it contains the ingredients that are killing people, namely a right wing political ideology that posits inequality as fixed nature
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link
Can I have one example of him saying
Inequality is of a fixed nature?
― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link
that's the lobster thing. he sometimes pays lip service to the idea that societies should try to ameliorate inequality, but if pressed he'll be like, "we should go no further than ensuring equality of opportunity." anything beyond this, he says, is an effort toward "equity" which leads to the gulags.
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
He says inequality is a problem and it is a consequence, not a fixed reality.
I want to know what is everyone willing to give up today, so that others will have more?
― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
Inequality is the iron rule
How is this not saying that inequality is a fixed reality?
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
Idk if you're looking for an answer to your last question. Lots of people give up things so that others will have more, via gifts, charity, taxes, etc.
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link
lo-fi lighting
― coetzee.cx (wins), Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
The iron rule is the desire to make better and better for one's self.
So, again, who here is not greedy?
― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 3 November 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link
nicky, he says in that passage the path to reducing inequality is what he calls the "judeo-christian" effort to insist on the "ultimate responsibility of the individual." so collective action is out even though collective projects like the civil rights movement, the trade union movement, feminism, the gay rights movement, etc. are the only things that have had an actual positive impact on society. also, these movements found plenty of support from their own readings of the "judeo christian tradition" -- he's trying to claim it for the right. this is not a stoner who is just poking around at questions and looking into things in a new way. it's a right wing argument and it's as old as the hills.
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 3 November 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I mean, going further, the system he is attacking is one that was absolutely developed in the West. It is also just not true that non-Western societies were unable to create socioeconomic systems that could produce "a modicum of wealth" prior to Western influence.
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 November 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link
good to know only the West has ever produced any wealth, that sounds very correct
― Freda VanFleet (symsymsym), Saturday, 3 November 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
xp lol
writing is such a bad medium for him, all his tendentious bullshit can be easily taken apart and analyzed. nobody has time to do that with a 2 hour youtube
― Freda VanFleet (symsymsym), Saturday, 3 November 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link
sund4r otm. his whole thing is completely ahistorical and shockingly ethnocentric.
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 3 November 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link
I might be too cynical; I admit.
I think if you gave 100 people sudden wealth, 99 of them turn into the people that they just recently resented.
― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 3 November 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link
wealth itself is a relatively modern concept if you take the really long view, as peterson gestures toward
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 3 November 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link
that's probably why some planets have more mass than others xp
― Freda VanFleet (symsymsym), Saturday, 3 November 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link
Very possibly true; this could also work as an argument in favour of collective structures to reduce inequality of wealth. xp
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 November 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link