I like that, for Julie, turning down a genial racist billionaire in favor of a former child abuser represents character growth. I get that they didn't have a lot of time to set up Frank and Julie, but still, WTF?
― reddening (reddening), Saturday, 3 February 2007 00:52 (seventeen years ago) link
i still can't really believe this show got cancelled but it must be expensive
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 3 February 2007 00:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Saturday, 3 February 2007 02:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― sunny successor agrees: gay dad always trumps slutty mom (katharine), Saturday, 3 February 2007 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link
otm re: more crazy shit - and more comedy music/score - i love that.am fine with the frank&julie love - if this show does get renewed with another network, we will see tumultuous action btwn them for sure
i really want to eat a corndog right now :/
― rrrobyn, breeze blown meadow of cheeriness (rrrobyn), Saturday, 3 February 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
Anyway, I still like him for being so great with Kaitlin. I like Kaitlin way more than I thought I would this season.
― reddening (reddening), Saturday, 3 February 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link
OTM
I figured I would hate her. I bout gave up on it all last season when Kaitlin said that shit about "ruling Harbour". She's been good, though.
Bullitt is adorabley clueless. "He-Bro" was probably my favourite moment of the season. All very sweet, though. Which is nice.
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Sunday, 4 February 2007 05:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― rrrobyn, breeze blown meadow of cheeriness (rrrobyn), Sunday, 4 February 2007 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― sunny successor, Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― sunny successor, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Gukbe, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― nickalicious, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― akm, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― sunny successor, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 24 February 2007 05:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― rrrobyn, Saturday, 24 February 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 25 February 2007 10:20 (seventeen years ago) link
i miss the OC
― sunny successor, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I started watching the show a couple months ago and am now almost done with season 3. (I have been reading this thread piecemeal along the way.) I think the show reached a high point early in season 2: it was funny and self-aware and I appreciated how the two power couples (Ryan/Marissa and Seth/Summer) spent most of that season apart from each other, since it made for more interesting tension than the stupid conflicts they had when they got back together. The downfall probably began with Kirsten's alcoholism: when season 3 begins, with her away in rehab, things just feel sort of off. Can't wait for Marissa to die!
― jaymc, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:42 (sixteen years ago) link
i also miss the OC
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link
i miss the OC, is there a club i can join?
― Dy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 17:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I miss Dawson's Creek.
― milo z, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link
I never really watched the OC but it seems to me the show was considered good when it was a spoof of crappy teen dramas and went downhill when it actually became a lousy teen drama. Is that right?
― Cunga, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Look, they shouldn't have killed Marissa. Thats it.
Dawsons Creek is on at 8am every weekday morning
― sunny successor, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link
I've seen all those, I need new ones.
(OC on every afternoon on the Soap Channel, BTW)
― milo z, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't think it was ever a spoof per se, just very self-aware (cf. references to The Valley). One problem is the way the show began to make its sensational elements boringly tragic rather than breezily fun.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link
oh they always had tragic stuff - marissa oding in tj etc
― sunny successor, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah! i got excited when i saw the first ep on soap but when i went to make a series recording i thought 'duh - dvds.'
― sunny successor, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link
I think maybe "boringly" is the key word in my post there. Marissa ODing in TJ was kind of hilarious.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link
After three months, I'm done with the show. Watched the finale last night.
I don't know what you people saw in Season 4. Kaitlin was awesome, but I couldn't bring myself to care about Taylor or her and Ryan's relationship at all. I guess I just missed Marissa drama. :(
Also, the finale was pretty silly with the exception of Ryan walking around the empty Cohen mansion, all Kirk Cameron in the Growing Pains finale, which totally made me tear up.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I had stopped watching it by the time Marissa died, but wasn't it really weird to kill her off?
― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I suppose. I never really understood if Mischa Barton wanted off the show, or what.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link
She was being a pain in the ass to work with. Showing up to filming late, partying, commenting "uh, I don't know if I want to keep doing the show", etc. No great surprise that when they got around to dealing with her, they didn't just send her character away but killed her off. (my reacting to when the car exploded: man, they really want to kill her)
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, definite shades of McLean Stevenson. Also, TV's not shy about killing off characters in general these days.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
No great surprise that when they got around to dealing with her, they didn't just send her character away but killed her off.
Yeah, they could easily have sent her off with Jimmy so she wouldn't have to appear in Season 4, anyway. I kind of liked how the first few episodes of Season 4 were all about Ryan and Summer and Julie dealing with the aftermath, and taking their time doing so. It was only when Taylor became one of the core characters, someone we were supposed to care about instead of a goofy guest star, did the season start sucking.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Am I the only person that keeps reading this as "The OCD"?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Also, Che stuck around a few episodes too long, too. He was fine as the impetus for Summer's activist streak at Brown, but his arc should've ended when he got Summer kicked out of school. There was no absolutely no need for him to come to Newport and go on stupid adventures with Seth. And his appearances in Ryan/Taylor's coma dream and as Summer's champagne-fueled hallucination could've been fun if they didn't scream "9-episode contract."
― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link
kaitlin really was the best character during the last season, with julie and, yes, ryan coming in a close second and third
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link
"I mean, I make fun of everyone. Usually 'cause I'm high."
― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Evil Kaitlin was awesome. Kaitlin With A Heart, less so. (Kinda like Evil-then-Needy Taylor, awesome; Main Character Taylor not so much) I still haven't watched the last five or six episodes.
― milo z, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Kinda miss this show.
― a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Friday, 24 September 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Can't believe this shit isn't available on Hulu, Netflix or Amazon Prime.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 24 August 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
iirc s4 and 5 of this just went straight camp (not an oxymoron) to get away from the awful melodrama of 3, but 1 and 2 were genuinely sweet and funny teenpulp. i was in high school and i wasn't ashamed.
― one yankee sympathizer masquerading as a historian (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 25 August 2013 04:53 (ten years ago) link
peter gallagher was really terrific.
and julie cooper.
― one yankee sympathizer masquerading as a historian (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 25 August 2013 04:54 (ten years ago) link
melinda clarke. is her name. she was great.
― one yankee sympathizer masquerading as a historian (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 25 August 2013 04:57 (ten years ago) link
lololol i thought this thread was 64 posts i'll get out of underdog-championing tone
― one yankee sympathizer masquerading as a historian (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 25 August 2013 04:58 (ten years ago) link
point is i own s1 and 2 on dvd
― one yankee sympathizer masquerading as a historian (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 25 August 2013 05:03 (ten years ago) link
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