my antipathy towards MJ is well-established and if that's the result can't say I'll participate but whatever.
garth brooks I know nothing about
I'd be more interested in some country women (which is why I included Dolly) but not sure who else would really qualify? Loretta Lynn or Tammy Wynette maybe. Shania Twain lol
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link
and then garth brooks.
Great away of ensuring an Americans-only thread
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link
Ditto Rufus/Chaka Khan, Blue Oyster Cult tbh
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link
... though to a lesser extent.
if non-americans sit out on a rufus thread, their total fucking loss
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link
Maybe, they're not highly popular outside the US. Mind you, Serge Gainsbourg isn't highly popular outside France.
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link
Garth Brooks is a step too far though.
i don't see how he's a step beyond billy joel
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link
I don't now, I've never heard a Garth Brooks song.
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link
but maybe the dedicated listening could include the jacksons and motown solo michael?
I nominated MJ and what I meant was definitely to include any solo Michael Jackson albums released during his lifetime - so no Jackson 5 but all of the Motown solo albums. I haven't listened to any of the pre-Off the Wall MJ solo albums. Whether or not we include the two posthumous albums (which I also haven't listened to) was more up in the air.
Voted for Metallica, though.
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link
now's your chance to hear them all! xp
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link
Woohoo!!
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link
I forgot to nominate Vangelis.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link
Fwiw, based on Wikipedia, GB has two gold and one silver album in the UK, two platinum and one gold album in Australia, one gold album in New Zealand, and six multi-platinum albums in Canada. I probably wouldn't listen to them all either, though.
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link
O Canada
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link
This thread needs more new age: Mike Oldfield, Enya, Loreena McKennitt, Michael Hedges, etc.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link
Mike Oldfield is a good suggestion.
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
none of those people are anywhere near the commercial success league of previous thread subjects
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link
Neither are Blue Oyster Cult.
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
Hot Chocolate for the global audience.
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link
I can't imagine myself listening to Christmas Together by Garth Brooks and Trisha Yearwood.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link
try closing your eyes
― the Warnock of Clodhop Mountain (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link
the only problem with a garth brooks listening thread: impossible to stream!!
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link
^^ good point imo
― sleeve, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link
I nominated Love / Arthur Lee but it ain't there
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link
not huge and also not critically dismissed
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
Arthur's got a shitload of records that are critically dismissed, but usually for good reason
― Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link
sure, but Arthur himself not so much
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link
I voted for Rush (as I did in the OG thread), b/c they're a band who falls outside my usual "taste profile," but I've been intrigued by bits & pieces that I've heard. I've wanted an incentive to explore their catalog, but feel like I would benefit from running commentary by others who fall more into that wheelhouse. (Also, it just seems like it would be "fun" to churn thru their albums, even/especially the wacky stuff.)― greta van vliet (morrisp), Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:47 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― greta van vliet (morrisp), Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:47 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This is me exactly. The only Rush music I've heard I heard from watching their documentary. Some of the song snipets from the doc sounded awesome, some brought the lolz.
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
This thread needs more ridiculous pop: Cher, Celine Dion.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link
agreed. honestly I nominate Nickelback for the same reason
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link
ha Nickelback is kinda perfect tbh
all these white guy artists do kind of beg the question - just how many mega-popular non-white/non-male acts are there that critics tend to shit on/not care about?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link
don't you all get tired of talking about and listening to classic rock and AOR or if not that then groups of straight white american voc-lead-rhythm-drums groups in whatever genre? because i honestly have no idea where you all manage to muster up the enthusiasm for revisiting that stuff yet again. not trying to have a go at anyone, this is probably going to be something i will never get.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link
well the whole point of the Eagles + Billy Joel + Elton John threads was that outside of the hits most of those guys' catalogs were unfamiliar territory for most of the listeners (including me, and god what hideous territory it was)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:15 (five years ago) link
but if you think that "groups of straight white american voc-lead-rhythm-drums groups in whatever genre" comprise the majority of what anyone around here listens to I dunno what to tell you
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link
Cher is a great idea.
― jmm, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link
I listened to the first five Nickelback albums a few years ago (I worked for their label). They're a lot like the Eagles in the sense that the singles were the singles for a reason - they don't have a single good album cut in their catalog as far as I could tell.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link
xxp I don't! But guess it boils down to that i'm not sold on looking into these guys music for hidden gems when there's so much else out there
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:20 (five years ago) link
now envisioning a Nickelback cover of the Disco Strangler so thx a lot
xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link
Is it? I dove into some 70s Cher albums a couple weeks ago just to expand my knowledge and hoo boy once was more than enough.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link
I think the only Cher I ever tried to slog through was her Phil Spector singles and even those I couldn't take
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link
About the same misery index as The Eagles.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link
Nickelback, Rush, and Queen are not American tbf. (Queen not all straight either.)
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link
Guardian had a list of "Cher's 30 greatest songs" last week, I listened to the top 10, I liked I think three? And even those not much.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/oct/18/chers-30-greatest-songs-ranked
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:38 (five years ago) link
xp Rush & Queen are classic rock though. Let's not talk about Nickleback.
Not all white either.
Also, yeah, the missus and I spent a day listening to a bunch of Nickelback albums and live performances. We might have gained some insights but no, not many gems there. 2xp
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link
Anyway, if Cher is the alternative, I'd sooner dig through every 38 Special and Grand Funk album. Am up for Celine Dion, though.
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:44 (five years ago) link
I'd make a "no more white boy AOR" exception for Skynyrd, fwiw.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link
Given the voting options, it's toss up between Sly and The Bee Gees.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 23:40 (five years ago) link
They're both too good though.
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 23:52 (five years ago) link
well that's three of us... is that enough for a quorum? I'd be happy to run it. I guess we'd have to decide whether to include Sly productions/side projects like the Stone Flower records stuff etc.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 March 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link
lot of great early stuff worth checking out imo
doesn’t need to be comprehensive, but it would be fun to hear some of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whZ0SCHcb2A
― budo jeru, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link
maybe we should compile a list first
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:08 (four years ago) link
I'd never heard of that Stewart Bros track before, for ex., that predates what I thought were his earliest releases
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link
sounds good, i’ll put a list together
― budo jeru, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link
Thanks!
― coco vide (pomenitul), Monday, 23 March 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link
I know all the Sly & Family Stone + Stone Flower stuff, but his pre-Family Stone stuff is all over the place
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link
so i think this should be sufficient:
stewart four - walking in jesus name 78 (1952)stewart brothers - the rat 45 (1959 **conflicting info here, may not be sly**)
v/a - “sly stone: the doo wop years” (covers most of the rest of the early releases, be sure to OMIT tracks 15-19)
demonstrators - sunset violets 45 (1964)sly stewart - i just learned how to swim 45 (1964)sly - buttermilk 45 (1965)sly - temptation walk 45 (1965)
v/a - “listen to the voices: sly stone in the studio 1965-1970” (i’ll let you decide what’s worth including here: demos, rarities, some non-stone flower productions, the french fries 7” is essential imo)
sprinkle in stone flower releases as you see fit and i think we have a party
― budo jeru, Monday, 23 March 2020 17:08 (four years ago) link
n.b. this isn’t a comprehensive list, or even anything close. just stuff i’ve either enjoyed or always wanted to check out, and think would make a good prelude to the family stone stuff.
― budo jeru, Monday, 23 March 2020 17:11 (four years ago) link
that looks like a solid starting point to me - I'm inclined not to include productions, albeit mostly because including the Beau Brummels doesn't seem apropos lol
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 March 2020 19:35 (four years ago) link
OK so we're doing this, yeah?
― Οὖτις, Monday, 30 March 2020 14:22 (four years ago) link
Sure, I'm in.
― coco vide (pomenitul), Monday, 30 March 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link
budo, what is this:
demonstrators - sunset violets 45 (1964)
― Οὖτις, Monday, 30 March 2020 14:36 (four years ago) link
I don't have the liner notes to "listen to the voices" does anyone know what years the following tracks are from?
Freddie and the Stone Souls Something About YouFreddie and the Stone Souls SuperfunkSly and the Family Stone Man Does Not LiveSly and the Family Stone Take My Advice
― Οὖτις, Monday, 30 March 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link
sorry that should say “sweet violets” and on second thought i think we can skip that track, demonstrators was a group sly apparently played in
i have no idea about the years on that comp as i just have the files, sorry :/
― budo jeru, Monday, 30 March 2020 17:21 (four years ago) link
I think the two Freddie Stone tracks are 1965, not sure about the other two. whatever, I'll just throw them in there ahead of the first proper album. I think I have a relatively full list together, about 170 tracks. Will start tomorrow
― Οὖτις, Monday, 30 March 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link