My spouse recently got two black famous people confused and literally was making a case for the mistake, because I said the "I Know they all look alike" until I put pictures side by side and he felt properly chagrined.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
ugh joke parsing is the worst twitter/ilx but imo this joke only really lands when it's 'we all look alike'
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
xpost when I saw the clip and HC said it, I was like, BURN.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link
I mean the joke/trope is so old, but her timing was pretty good.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
I hardly ever confuse black people with Asian people.
― pplains, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link
I thought this was pretty funny but maybe not the best joke to make in a public setting
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link
I say this not knowing the color of everyone posting ITT, but sometimes with moments like this I wonder how many people are actually directly offended vs just arguing by proxy whether or not other people should/shouldn't be offended.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link
i think we're arguing about our pain at HRC uttering words in public
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link
I personally just like making people feel bad about being lazy bitches.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link
you sound like a ton of fun
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link
I am utterly charming.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link
i always knew she was crooked!
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/9/18080656/matthew-whitaker-trump-hillary-clinton-sessions-attorney-general?
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 10 November 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link
well, how are you supposed to prove it unless you keep investigating her until she is guilty.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 November 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/22/hillary-clinton-europe-must-curb-immigration-stop-populists-trump-brexit?CMP=twt_gu
nice lady
― k3vin k., Thursday, 22 November 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link
Great opinion. If only she'd put it on a mug she'd have won in 2016.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 22 November 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
lots of obvious dunks here but I do enjoy (and am hardly alone in noticing) how this nicely parrots the trash Angela Nagle published yesterday
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 November 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link
“I admire the very generous and compassionate approaches that were taken particularly by leaders like Angela Merkel, but I think it is fair to say Europe has done its part, and must send a very clear message – ‘we are not going to be able to continue provide refuge and support’ – because if we don’t deal with the migration issue it will continue to roil the body politic.”
Quite right Hil, those inconvenient people fleeing your bombing campaigns should just fucking drown! #stillwithher
― gyac, Thursday, 22 November 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
obv Chelsea has had some good and highly expensive dental-work, but put it away ffs. That pic on the bbc site was giving false hope to Shergar's owners.
― calzino, Thursday, 22 November 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
tony blair jumping in there with the legitimate grievances too
― Freda VanFleet (symsymsym), Thursday, 22 November 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link
Tony’s been beating that drum for a while now tbfttc.
― gyac, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link
For all the left wing people getting mad at this, I have some bad news about the Absolute Boy https://t.co/9Ma4oX4tLb— John🖕Galvano 🇲🇳 (@JohnGalvano) November 22, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
^whataboutery
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
curious if there's any criticism of HRC that Nerdstrom would agree with
― rob, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link
Yes, there is basically no difference between a politician who has campaigned for decades on refugee rights, who continues to speak at pro-refugee rallies, who has consistently pushed the U.K. government to do more to address refugee needs, etc, and one telling Merkel to shut the door lest the fash get restless, thank you.
Labour is far from perfect on immigration and the recent criticism of cuts to border police, etc, has been poor but this is moronic.
― Stollen Valour (ShariVari), Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link
I agree with the criticism of her here and many other times.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link
“No difference”
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
I don't really follow UK politics so maybe you can explain the relevance of Corbyn to this callous speech advocating that the "center left" adopt the extreme right's position on refugees to hold on to power, not that that ploy is particularly surprising coming from Clinton
― rob, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
When in doubt, punch left. Fishhook theory is real.
Given that a lot of the vitriol aimed at Corbyn is based on his closeness to Muslim and Irish communities and a lot of opposition to him dogwhistles about his support for them near constantly - I mean a guy tried to kill him because he thought Corbyn was a “terrorist” and that is 100% based on vile coverage about how he cares more about foreigners than the British in the media - the neck of that guy is unreal but not surprising.
Contribute to the Guardian? Not even fucking once.
― gyac, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
On #WorldRefugeeDay we express solidarity with people who have been forced to flee war, natural disaster, or persecution.We have a duty to act humanely and protect the rights of refugees, rather than forcing them into overcrowded camps, detention centres and abject poverty.— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) June 20, 2018
― gyac, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
“Fishhook theory” is kind of a convoluted meme
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
Are you going to address the points raised or answer why you brought up Corbyn in the first place?
― gyac, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
seems pretty simple to me tbh, maybe you were reaching for "obscure"
https://i.redd.it/ipw1tkw2v06z.png
xp
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 November 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link
xp no I don’t have time for that.
Yeah obscure is probably a better descriptive
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 22 November 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link
that's some zen master shit right there
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 November 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link
turning a big dial taht says "Racism" on it and constantly looking back at the audience for approval like a contestant on the price is right— wint (@dril) March 15, 2017
― gyac, Thursday, 22 November 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link
god hilary is the worst
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 22 November 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link
In a strong field
― Mama Weer All Tankee Now (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 November 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link
inconvenient people fleeing your bombing campaigns
fwiw, a high percentage of refugees into Europe in the past several years were fleeing Assad's bombing campaign, which I don't think you can pin on HRC. otoh, the outcome of the NATO campaign to oust Gadhafi has generated plenty of refugees and HRC was a big driver behind that one, along with the French president. Also, plenty of refugees are just fleeing wretched poverty and social violence, not bombs.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 22 November 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link
Yeah I was thinking of Libya when I said that.
Also, plenty of refugees are just fleeing wretched poverty and social violence, not bombs.
This is an argument used to deny entry to any refugees into Europe though - “they’re all economic migrants!!!1”.
― gyac, Thursday, 22 November 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link
fleeing Assad's bombing campaign, which I don't think you can pin on HRC
libya otoh...
― k3vin k., Thursday, 22 November 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link
did you read my post?
otoh, the outcome of the NATO campaign to oust Gadhafi has generated plenty of refugees and HRC was a big driver behind that one, along with the French president.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 22 November 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.)
couldn't help but read this but "obvious drunks" and as always, this is a great idea
"fish hook theory" was endorsed by a cartoon in "the book of the subgenius" back in the 1980s, i'm not sold on it as a political philosophy
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Thursday, 22 November 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link
whats it mean, that there's only 'us' and the far-right?
why give that a name, "with us or against us" is old as the hills
― old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 November 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link
That the centre will always gravitate towards the right rather than give anything to the left - or that centrist opinions are very close to far right ones.
― gyac, Thursday, 22 November 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link
The name is mostly turning the idea of ‘horseshoe theory’ back on the people promoting it. Liberalism = fascism is not necessarily useful analysis.
The idea that, given a choice between accommodating left-wing ideas and appeasing the far-right when forced to pick between the two, a lot of people who think of themselves as the sensible centre are more comfortable with the latter seems pretty undeniable though. Understanding how they can be stopped is hugely important.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 22 November 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link
i'm glad to see the concept of "social fascism" is back in vogue, it doesn't make one sound at all like a tankie
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Thursday, 22 November 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link
Probably not a great look to refer to someone who would feel the sharp end of mainstreaming fascist ideas as a tankie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― gyac, Thursday, 22 November 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link
Ahem
― Mama Weer All Tankee Now (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 November 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link
none of this would've happened if Trump kept his promise and locked her up. ugh.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 22 November 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link
Trump's campaign was also based on blatant misogyny but Hilary seems oddly circumspect on whether the 2020 Democrat nominee should talk about hating women a bit more.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 22 November 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link