More often than not, Emmylou Harris' harmony vocals are distracting.
Don't get me wrong: I think she's terrific and I've probably listened to Wrecking Ball six thousand times. But I feel like her voice is too distinctive to blend or something.
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday,
uh the opposite! She's a zero as a lead singer, immaculate as harmonizer.
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 October 2018 00:10 (five years ago) link
Have you heard the Parton-Harris-Ronstadt Trio? A wondrous record.
Discipline is better played, better written and far more exciting than Remain in Light.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link
I definitely like it more. Idk if I even have an opinion on "better played" or "better written".
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link
is there some connection between those albums?
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link
Adrian Belew
― Number None, Monday, 29 October 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link
i'll go w/the album where he's not allowed to sing
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
I kinda wish I liked St Anger more
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, October 28, 2018 5:06 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
Beyond just Adrian Belew, I'd say Discipline is highly influenced by Talking Heads overall. I like RIL better, but both are classic.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link
This x1000. I can tolerate Belew making the occasional squiggly noise in the margins, but anytime he's allowed to take a dominant role on a song (by anybody), things go straight into the ditch.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link
Fear of Music, Remain in Light, and Speaking in Tongues are each > Discipline, but Discipline, Beat, & Three of a Perfect Pair are each > Talking Heads before 1979 or after 1984.
Belew isn't a terrible singer in the sense that he ruins otherwise great songs, but I think one needs to delve into deeper cuts like "Heartbeat" and "Waiting Man" before he adds to them. Byrne/Belew/Colin Hay were sort of an early 80s trio tthat even constricted, neurotic voices like mine could be expressive.
― They Bunged Him in My Growler (Sanpaku), Monday, 29 October 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link
^ that taught me that even..
― They Bunged Him in My Growler (Sanpaku), Monday, 29 October 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link
i actually find Belew's voice kind of beautiful when he's singing and not squawking on stuff like "Three of a Perfect Pair" and "Matte Kudasai"; the ones Sanpaku lists are definitely good examples. I realize it's my own issue but Byrne just annoys the heck out of me or leaves me cold a lot of the time.
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
I think Belew is a guitar genius so he can sing however and whatever he wants
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link
Leo Kottke is very much in the same boat here
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link
Kottke's vox are so bad
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link
yeah
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
Ha, I always skip the "singing" side of The Best.
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link
i actually find Belew's voice kind of beautiful when he's singing and not squawking on stuff like "Three of a Perfect Pair" and "Matte Kudasai"; the ones Sanpaku lists are definitely good examples. I realize it's my own issue but Byrne just annoys the heck out of me or leaves me cold a lot of the time.― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, October 30, 2018 2:31 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, October 30, 2018 2:31 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yup, basically this.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:06 (five years ago) link
Drama is secretly one of the best records Yes ever made, and would be considered as such if Jon Anderson had been the singer on it.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMKfIXdxh-U
I watch this often. I really like it.
― triggercut, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 11:06 (five years ago) link
It occurred to me in a barely-awake state this morning that Belew's two main vocal approaches in KC mirror the two guitarists': the singing with long sustained swelling notes recalls Fripp's lyrical lead playing; the goofy squawk is like his own outlandish bursts of noise.
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 11:51 (five years ago) link
Most interesting. We should dedicate a thread to our semi-oneiric reflections on music before sleep or waking.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 11:57 (five years ago) link
Lol, I'm in.
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 12:02 (five years ago) link
controversial halloween opinion: "Thriller" isnt that great a song, and really hard to buy into MJs performance on it if you didnt grow up in the 80s
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 12:36 (five years ago) link
Solange’s Don’t Touch My Hair is better than any of Beyoncé’s solo work.
― gyac, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 12:37 (five years ago) link
Every song on that album is better than Beyoncé's entire solo work.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 12:40 (five years ago) link
Every single album I have heard this year has been more interesting than the new Robyn.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link
now that's controversial
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link
the nice > JH experience
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link
I actually like the Nice but that's definitely controversial, yeah. Interesting, though.
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 13:08 (five years ago) link
David Byrne actually has a very nice melodious voice he’s grown into in the mid-90s, starting from the best Talking Head record, “Naked”. Just listen to the gorgeous ballads on his self-titled and the wonderful “Feelings”. Terrific melody writer. Yet all he’s ever championed for is the frigging early-to-midperiod Talking Heads.
― Max Florian, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link
THRAK contains Belew’s most melodious vocal work, and is the best King Crimson album overall.
― Max Florian, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link
This thread makes me feel good. I might become the new Geir.
― Max Florian, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 13:19 (five years ago) link
Haha, I appreciate your stanning fir Naked. It isn't really the best, but it's pretty underrated. For at least a couple years after it was released, Naked was my favorite album by anyone, period.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 13:55 (five years ago) link
Thriller is nowhere near MJ's best song, but it's a pretty solid album. For me Jackson's legacy was secured by the utter joy contained in his J5 vocals (ABC etc.), and anything he did as an "adult" is gravy. I barely paid attention to his post-Thriller work, and his consequent shenanigans.
― Glasnostradamus (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link
THRAK feels like the one KC album that Belew utterly saves - not just in his vocal performances but in his songwriting. "Dinosaur" and "Walking on Air" are both really great. I've always thought of Belew as KC's "best" vocalist from a technical point of view (outside of maybe Lake on the first two albums), but you can see why they didn't have him cover the old material often.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link
Probably more bitchy than straight up controversial, but there's something satisfying in peeking into the TMBG poll thread, seeing Birdhouse at three - a track that makes me want to pull off my own ears and the ears of my family to save them the torment - and knowing I can safely tick them off the 'if only there was more time!' list.
― Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link
sounds like you have a bee in your bonnet
― fred-a van vleet (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link
Heh. Argh!
― Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link
I agree the Robyn album is uninteresting 😑
― greta van vliet (morrisp), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
Beyonce's "Don't Yourself" is more thrilling than Solange's work.
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link
comparing them sucks
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
they don't really seem to be trying to do the same thing and i don't think anyone would compare them if they weren't related
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link
or if they didn't have some kind of bone-deep hatred for beyoncé
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link
DJs understand music better than musicians
― ogmor, Friday, 2 November 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link
circle of fifths vs moving the crowd FITE
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 2 November 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link
― ogmor, Friday, November 2, 2018 8:30 AM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
my problem this is the assumption that there's one way to understand music or better or worse ways to understand it
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 November 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link
Only DJ kids will get this!
― pomenitul, Friday, 2 November 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link
xp
do you think you understand music now any better than when you were born?
DJs have greater flexibility to understand music in different ways than a musician
― ogmor, Friday, 2 November 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link