Irish politics discussion thread

ah low turnout and mdh assured a win, and everyone else had an actual shocker. casey just the beneficiary of a safe protest vote imo

for all the talk of a jump from 1% to 20%, the winning margin is fucking huge.

no matter who came second it would be painted as a warning to the establishment by the vested interests.

i was gonna get involved on boards but fuck the spinning losers and their triumph over casey. its just nice to win and breathe again

Yeah it is. Laughed at reading some twitter cunts saying Peter Casey’s % meant the country was living in a left wing bubble - which meant ignoring the really left wing politician who actually won it.

It was a pretty boring campaign for the most part. Very amused that Sean G got a fraction of what he polled last time.

"ye'll have to listen to us now!"

1/5 of ppl to everyone else

delighted for sean long life to him and the same kicking every sevenyear sez i

anyway i voted duffy

no biters ara fuck ye

ooof

hitch trial collapse is gonna cause waves

The Irish Times article seems to go as far towards saying "this is corrupt as fuck" as they legally can.

Members of the Byrne family stood up and called the situation “disgraceful” and a “farce”. They said there was “no justice in Ireland” and claimed that gardaí could not “solve this case but could solve all the others”

This is actually touching faith in the Gardaí!

ive a mate, referenced itt iirc, and he worked in an oversight (insofar as allowed) capacity over the nnghardaí and its the only item he ever gave me the pokerface on

this sounds dodgy as.

gombeen men afoot

i cant tease out whether they're covering corruption (general or on behalf of either faction) or incompetence (trial apparently majorly compromised due to basic procedural errors) but theyre blatantly covering

cant ask anything about a 'tragic death' im afraid. case closed.

gubu

get that right up ya dob u cunt

we'll talk about it in here so i spose

the statement by SoS for NI made to the house of commons yesterday is not just a resigning matter but should be an international scandal the scale of which should see ambassadors, foreign ministers and idk any human rights, justice or military union either country is involved in involved and investigating as a priority

its not as important as internal labour party intrigue obv but hey this is probably a good reminder that yknow countries really should rule themselves

Cmon deems I did bump The Irish!

But yeah it’s a complete disgrace. I was reading some of the Ballymurphy stuff yesterday and nearly in tears overvit.

sorry ive been off ilx today, my mistake.

new statesman cover is choice

It surely is a thing that exists. NS besides S Bush is largely shite anyway but between this cover & the Guardian cover, supposed liberal UK doesn’t give a fuck about us either.

Enjoyed seeing the shadow defence secretary having to row back yesterday.

What’s the coverage like at home?

about what specifically? brexit is off from what i can tell

The statute of limitations stuff

tbh ive not seen a lot on it rly

well now

dont particularly feel like johnson is capable of actually maintaining a run but rly its no matter itll be some bad cunt in charge of dictating terms to us between now and October.

Think literally all the candidates are either extremely bad or awful on the Irish question, but they’re not going to be any better than May at handling it so

ok irish ppl

the journal says if you hate a candidate, put nothing against them

i think you start with ranking those you like in order of preference, and once youve exhausted your positive energy (happens quite quickly) then take the list and starting from bottom put the lowest available preference against the fucker you most want to block, then iterate up. that way you express a preference at every possible transfer that might come up.

which is right

You're right, but some of those transfers won't be all that likely - though it fills up your negative energy for the rest of the day!

its fuckin killin me to put a number against fully two thirds of em but anything that keeps ben and the prolifers and irexit crew bottom must be done

deems I have it on excellent authority that my family (well those of us with the vote in Ireland) are voting for yr cousin & my parents would never have voted green in their lives

she is coming across v well and look we're a solid bunch on the island what can I say

God’s own country, apart from the time I capsized a kayak there.

allah's own country https://www.joe.ie/uncategorized/misread-achill-celtic-supporters-flag-causes-quite-a-stir-after-being-mistaken-for-islamic-banner-334820

ye forget nothing

Iran, Iraq, Ireland...

bernie has stated he will fight any planned invasion of ta'allah

locals wont be very clear til tomorrows figures start comin in but in europe greens look well ahead of expectations

A functional foreigner asks - have the Greens leveraged a connection with the larger movements / awareness elsewhere, or have the people who declared they'd never vote for those arseholes again cycled through all the other arseholes?

col a col b

think theres some good young voices across the board, but the ones coming through the big parties were noticeably weak and anodyne in contrast.

whether the indies or smaller party talent can work out a way of functioning effectively enough to impact how a GE goes or whether theyre just trying to get invited into the tent will make for an interesting watch

do think climate and housing/planning/transport policy are the big topics on the ground for the euros/locals so the green surge probably reflects that rather than being all protest.

we have one irexit candidate and hes taking good advantage of a non-split vote at 0%

ppl give out and we're obv an awful shambles but listen dont the other lot make us look good at the same time

https://m.soundcloud.com/rte-radio-1/maria-bailey-1

someone gimme a listen here and let me know if its the kind of thing we should send out to wider ilx on a franchise basis or w/e, im too close here

greens vote looks overstated on exit polls which might mean a few seats less than expected, particularly disappointing for our saoirse but a hell of a debut for her on the political stage

ppl give out and we're obv an awful shambles but listen dont the other lot make us look good at the same time

Low bar but yeah - I remember watching some videos on Twitter of people being excited at the tally for the gay marriage referendum and thinking about heading home.

daenerys baker (darraghmac) wrote this on thread Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread. on board I Love Everything on 29-May-2019

lads

if we are to have a generically lazy brit bashing thread i feel it would go some way towards healing the wounds of a few weeks back if ye were to host it in its natural thread, the irish politics thread

let the record note the contempt with which this suggestion was treated

ukilxor self-contempt is as performative as any other rite of postcolonial privilege

I saw, and turned my face away at shame for my two adopted homes.

Where is Andrew Farrell's true home? Poll.

Please can we discuss this video and these pictures

On my visit to Ireland it's clear we cannot have a No Deal Brexit. pic.twitter.com/3KjOBE9NmE

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) May 30, 2019

President Michael D. Higgins with British Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn, meeting at Áras an Uachtaráin this morning. pic.twitter.com/62DUlNVfWJ

— President of Ireland (@PresidentIRL) May 30, 2019

Good meeting with @jeremycorbyn in @merrionstreet today on Northern Ireland, #Brexit and Westminster. Main topics were restoring power sharing in Northern Ireland, our shared concerns about a no deal scenario, and avoiding a hard border. We’ll be staying in touch pic.twitter.com/bhM1yun7CZ

— Leo Varadkar (@LeoVaradkar) May 30, 2019

Great discussion with Irish Taoiseach @LeoVaradkar on the importance of ensuring an open border between the Republic and Northern Ireland, as well as maintaining a close trade relationship with Europe.

We must avoid the damage to our economy that No Deal would cause. pic.twitter.com/linM6mJsJe

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) May 30, 2019

Nice they'll be staying in touch

Britvic discontinued its Drench and Pennine Spring water brands in Britain in favour of Ballygowan

interesting footnote in bottled water history: Yorkshire couldn't boast that the natural spring under the old Ben Shaws factory was holy and used by the Knights Templar + got completely owned by Limerick!

I've never quite worked out Irish pay rates. an inlaw was earning 45k in her 1st entry-level admin job in Dublin several years back which made us go ???* but that side of the family always seems to land on its feet and be oblivious to their good fortune so I hesitate to assume it's representative

* our confusion was that this sounded like a lot, just to clarify, seeing as we had a conversation at cross-purposes with step-MIL along similar lines at one point, where we expressed surprise at someone (else)'s salary bcz it sounded high to us and she agreed with our surprise then said "that's terrible, how can anyone live on that?" uh... never mind

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hi aps

felt it rather better to bring it here

i take it this offspring sprung off from a reasonably comfortable family? nothing unusual in the phenomenon that aspirations/understanding of what is tolerable is as tied to the manner and modes in which one (or one's family) has become accustomed to living over here as it is anywhere else.

South dublin would be the very typical base of the type of dynasty that would certainly be disappointed if fiachra had to settle for anything less than 65k after getting out of trinners, for instance, because fiachra could hardly be expected to get a season ticket at donnybrook and a two bed in ranelagh for himself on anything less than that.

dublin is v liveable in or around 40k imo, and by that i mean flaneur about town* type of living**

*the cheaper but better parts obv

**please note the flaneur never aspires to owning an actual property within commuting distance

c.28k is about right as NN says for a starter out of a generic college course, your choice of career depending you should fly up from that or not etc etc

down the country you can live on about a fiver a month, thats to own and run a fair sized village inc blacksmith and a working port