Filmstruck / Criterion Channel

fortunately everyone will be drownded before the Blurays degrade

I generally hate streaming services of all music/film/TV because they often can't provide what I actually want to watch/hear.

lol wait i think i just got flappy mixed up with flopson again

"the importance and necessity of ownership" pretty sure there's a fugazi song about this

fortunately we have the NY liberries, Brad

anyway libraries are really important imo xp

i only buy important shit like Rossellini and Sternberg boxes

the importance and necessity of ownership

such weird icky ethical bullshit surrounding owning/collecting movies, something almost no one did before the 1980s.

Yeah theres flopson flappy and flopsy

if they could've they would've

xp

flopson, flappy, and floppentail, surely

streaming is generally fine (individual companies maybe not of course) as long as you don't think of it as an archive--it's really just the new iteration of broadcast TV

a key difference though: it's not regulated nearly as much

so nothing good is ever on when you want it to be?
i am not a fan of streaming because you have to purchase access to the service AND have reliable internet in order to use the service. even people in major metropolitan areas don't have access to reliable streaming. AND the catalog is never full of what i want to see so it's just like a crapshoot where all you get is crap...maybe.

that's another reason I can't get on board (yet) - shit disappearing and cycling in and out = DUD

so you need three things -- electricity (fine, we all need this), high speed internet service (not everyone has this) and purchased access to the service providing the media. it relies on three levels of access and even then you have to like what they are serving up. which...when it comes to netflix, no.

i try to avoid owning movies (and books), i have enough

i borrow

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yes very good points about worse access than broadcast, I was thinking more just in terms of quality and the arbitrariness of what's discoverable

my students look startled whenever I slip out that I still get Netflix DVDs.

They're doing a project requiring an analysis of M and four other good films made in subsequent decades (most recent: BPM). I sent them to Kanopy because, as I wrote earlier, it's free through the uni library, but I almost listed Filmstruck as an option. With the email volume I get, it was a rare smart move on my part.

the importance and necessity of ownership would make more sense in the context of iTunes purchased movies disappearing when rights change

everytime the viewing medium changes, we lose more films.

i love explaining to students why we are watching a DVD instead of streaming. in addition to the unreliable internet service at my school, usually their favorite reason for doing it is that no one can see you watching a DVD -- like when we watched The Murder of Fred Hampton. they could see the value of privacy.

I've heard great things about Kanopy, don't know about their lousy interface but seems like the best option now.

re:disappearing titles. reminds me a bit of the ebook publishers I deal at work. Even though it's not my money it appalls me that they sell these expensive electronic titles and then drop them from their platform without notice, and you have to figure it out yourself. And then when you complain you just get some tech speak about purging content to upgrade for a better user experience!

my library's Kanopy catalogue is easily fewer than 100 items, and probably 90% are contemporary documentaries

LL: that's genuinely good to hear that your students care about data privacy

everytime the viewing medium changes, we lose more films.

I really wish people understood this, it drives me crazy how cavalier (or just ignorant) people are about it

yeah it's awful. do yall know Rite Aid sells blu rays for like $4 new? not a bad selection tbh

xxp ah didn't know Kanopy's library was regional

Kanopy is good but definitely limited compared to Filmstruck. You can only watch a certain number of things per month, for example.

there's a video store opening up here v soon & the line I've heard the most and the line that KILLS me is "can't you find every movie ever made online?" No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the store is also functioning as a physical media archive, registered as a nonprofit, will have a membership model instead of individual rental charges, etc. wish every city could have this - and lord knows it was hard enough here, they've been "coming soon" for months but they've finally painted the storefront & will open next week I think

is that an Alamo thing?

Alamo just took over the library of the last major video store in SF and I'm curious what their going to do with it

nah, co-owned & run by Eric Hatch, I think most of you have seen him on twitter. but here's the facade:

Our facade design is up at @BeyondVideo_!!! So pumped for them to open soon! pic.twitter.com/hvP5t1AeRb

— Post Typography (@posttypography) October 26, 2018

haha that's dope

Alamo recently took over the library of the last major video store in downtown Brooklyn. Haven't gone yet.

there was a small party a couple months ago for people in the film community in town to come check out the store and good lord it's paradise. everyone working there has great taste and are really dedicated to building an archive. whole second floor is directors shelves, so much OOP and hard to find Altman, Godard, Akerman, Denis, Fassbinder, and on and on and on... I haven't even checked out the other rooms yet. so pumped.

anyway, where is Criterion going to go once Filmstruck shutters?

a farm

that Beyond Video building facade looks great!

the selection of films available on Netflix DVD beats any streaming service imo, Kanopy and Filmstruck included

I bailed on Netflix DVD because they skipped too much for me, is this not a problem for you guys?

It has gaps, yeah, but it's still my first choice.

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my brother said the same thing about bad netflix discs

the selection of films available on Netflix DVD beats any streaming service imo, Kanopy and Filmstruck included

Currently they offer 63 total films from 1900-1980, and zero of them offer special features, so, no.

on streaming I mean. The discs usually have the features locked.

Currently they offer 63 total films from 1900-1980, and zero of them offer special features, so, no.

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, October 26, 2018 11:44 AM

then I'm not sure you and I have the same service. I've been working my way through filmographies by director, using the ilx directors poll list as a starting point, to give myself an education, and the number of films available on netflix dvd is astonishing. There are gaps (e.g. the 80s and 90s works of Godard) but for the most part the supply of classic/world stuff is almost endless. I keep a queue of 500 going, and I haven't worked my way even a fraction of it

as I said above though, the search function isn't great, you have to type the film's title in to find most of them

Sorry, I initially missed that you were talking about the DVD service. It's quite comprehensive but I still never use it.

I think you have to be a pretty disciplined viewer to actually remember to update your disc queue, and avoid skipping issues, AND still want to watch the same films from whenever it was that you queued them up. Especially when I can just load up Kanopy (or YouTube) and choose something that fits my mood.

I bailed on Netflix DVD because they skipped too much for me, is this not a problem for you guys?

― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, October 26, 2018 2:38 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It has gaps, yeah, but it's still my first choice.

― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, October 26, 2018 2:42 PM (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean the DVDs skip

Yup, about once every three rentals for me.

More frequently than usual.

Also, perhaps they've closed local receiving plants, for it takes longer for them to process a return. Until a couple years it'd be a 24/48-hour turnaround at most (and I return DVDs at a post office).

Agree about the turnaround, it's worth getting a subscription for at least a few at a time. As far as skipping, it must be partly player-dependent. dvds skip frequently on my friend's player, almost never on mine