Mmmmmmmaybe they'll make a deal to be a part of the HBO/Warner/Turner streaming service coming next year, but I'm not holding my breath.
― WmC, Friday, 26 October 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
I haven't seen this much collective mourning on my twitter feed since ... well, ever.
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
a bunch of criterion/janus never left kanopy but it can be elusive, and hard to even really take a head count because there are many titles (not criterion specific) that i can watch through my public library membership but NOT my university one. depending which membership you have toggled to "active," the other titles just don't appear when browsing, but DO still sit in your watchlist, BUT can't be actually played if it turns out they're gone from all your memberships. this is only one of a dozen needlessly clunky features, the worst tho are the consistent roku bugs that mean watching with subtitles on my TV has remained a complete crapshoot for more than a year. you get what you pay for i guess but it'd be cool if libraries would demand these people maintain an easier-to-use product. don't get me started on the pagination woes.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
interface on Kanopy has been fine for me on phone, except for clicking to see why a single film was listed as a collection of two, and it starting to play & thus using one of my five-films-a-month (restriction of the Seattle Public Library)
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
i cringe to imagine clicking page by tedious page through my 17-page watchlist on a phone. also iirc you can't search by terms like "kurosawa" though perhaps that's been fixed
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link
haven't tried to use Kanopy on my phone, but the search function on it's webpage allows a search by director, which is really nice (that is one of my gripes with Netflix). It doesn't feel to me that the interface there is much different from other streaming services. You can add films to your watchlist so they are available when you go in to the app on your tv screen.
I didn't realize that individual libraries make different content available. SFPL I know has the complete Janus Criterion collection as well as many others
― Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link
17-page watchlist
with only 5 films per month, I have not been that profligate with my watchlisting, admittedly
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link
oh, it's definitely annoying that a 2-minute cartoon counts as as much as a 5.5-hour documentary toward that limit.
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link
I know we have Criterion excluded on our school's Kanopy service because it costs $150 to activate a film for a year, and we only want to pay for films used in classes etc.
― President Keyes, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link
sic get a job at the UW, exploit some library privileges
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link
yeah i imagine kanopy must offer a few standard packages to customers, university one maybe heavier on canonical classics for the learning youth, city library one heavier on contemporary foreign/indie/docs for the NPR set? just guessing tho.ymmv obv but the pagination killlls the browsing for me. like netflix and co have figured this out more or less, just let me scroll thru everything i've put in my queue and see what i'm in the mood for (and if you really wanna blow my mind, let me sort that list by year/name/genre instead of always being most-recently-added). having to click "next page" a dozen times is wack. it's lots of little stuff like that - removing a movie from your watchlist on page 15 bumps you back up to page one. if you're browsing through a genre and click into a movie to get the full details, clicking back out dumps you at the top of the genre. there's no simple "recently added" page so you have to check individual genres and overlapping ad-hoc categories. etc. etc. sorry to rant, it's just a design bummer cause the catalog's amazing and there is never going to be any organized pressure from their customers to refine any of this.obv the watchlist is longer than whatever i'll get to in a month or a year but i tend to load up lists with whatever on a service looks interesting so that when i sit down to pick something out i can just look at my watchlist.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link
if Apple's smart they'll grab this up for their new service next year
― Nhex, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link
wish npr or pbs or somesuch had the resources to step into this space, sigh.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link
Well, guess I won't be signing up to Filmstruck after all :-( I like Mubi but really could do with an alternative.
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
there's a "recently added" strip right at the top of the Kanopy mobile app, that scrolls and scrolls :)
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
(and a recently added docos underneath The Criterion Collection)
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
For all but the very obsessive, the whole "this is why you should own a vast and expensive personal library of movies you'll probably only watch once or twice" line is just bonkers to me.
― ryan, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link
For all but the very obsessive,
exactly
― flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link
yeah the real thing to lament is the death of physical-media video stores (or even o.g. DVD-by-mail netflix) which were actually the right medium between owning-forever and never-seeing.didn't realize that abt the app, might have to install it just to spare myself the clicking around on the web.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link
Kanopy is awesome, but I agree the interface sucks
― Nhex, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
not sure what the o.g. version of netflix was but the current dvd-by-mail selection is amazing!
― Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link
ha i didn't even realize it still existed. i remember an article a couple years ago on how limited and unreliable it'd actually become since they weren't replacing lost/destroyed discs so tons of bog-standard stuff had quietly become not-actually-gettable. but i'm probably fogging up the details.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link
Netflix DVD-by-mail has more films available than Netflix streaming
think of the question as being "do you want to watch them once"
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link
Criterions have good resell value anyway
― flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link
xp yes, if you're into classic cinema or world cinema, there's no comparison between netflix DVD and streaming services
― Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link
I think it was after they did the “directed by Raoul Walsh” collection I thought how dies this exist? This is too good to be true
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
For the hundred bucks I'll save for not having a year of Filmstruck and its 1000-1200 options, I'll be able to buy 4-5 Criterion home releases (during half-off sales), or half of next month's Bergman box.
― WmC, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
losing disc-by-mail maybe the worst thing about moving to Canada tbrr
― rob, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
honestly, cost-proposition wise Netflix and Amazon Prime are still insane for what you get. but they'll never have everything, all the time, hence physical media worth buying and supporting for sure. also, the way history has been, whatever supplants Blu-ray will still publish less titles in the end, the way there were more DVDs than BR, more VHS than DVD..
― Nhex, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link
lame, I was just thinking of signing up for this
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
Stupid:
Streaming is a scam that conditions consumers to forget the importance and necessity of ownership, to instead subscribe to the profit-maximizing whims of a megacorporation. Continued unabated, it will mutilate the history of film and music. Tech isn’t going to save us.— Scary Kaleb Horton (@kalebhorton) October 26, 2018
Streaming has stymied piracy better than any other digital model. The mechanism is in place to finally properly pay artists (even if they aren't doing it now) & more accurately track ears/eyeballs.
― flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link
flappy is a BigTech sock
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link
I doubt there will be a successor optical medium to Blu-ray that gets any kind of home market penetration, though considering the sorry state of America's crumbling infrastructure/broadband capacity maybe it'll wind up that we all just start buying movies on flash memory (NB this is way too expensive)
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
lol I don't even have Netflix! Not into streaming video because the quality is so shit (in my area at least - Comcast is the only option). But I have Apple Music and I love it, and still buy records.
― flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
i've grumbled at flappy before for Big Tech sanguinity but i believe their positions are sincerely-held and non-sock
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link
fortunately everyone will be drownded before the Blurays degrade
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link
I generally hate streaming services of all music/film/TV because they often can't provide what I actually want to watch/hear.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link
lol wait i think i just got flappy mixed up with flopson again
"the importance and necessity of ownership" pretty sure there's a fugazi song about this
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
fortunately we have the NY liberries, Brad
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
anyway libraries are really important imo xp
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
i only buy important shit like Rossellini and Sternberg boxes
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
the importance and necessity of ownership
such weird icky ethical bullshit surrounding owning/collecting movies, something almost no one did before the 1980s.
― President Keyes, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
Yeah theres flopson flappy and flopsy
― F# A# (∞), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link
if they could've they would've
xp
― flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
flopson, flappy, and floppentail, surely
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
streaming is generally fine (individual companies maybe not of course) as long as you don't think of it as an archive--it's really just the new iteration of broadcast TV
― rob, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link
a key difference though: it's not regulated nearly as much
― rob, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
so nothing good is ever on when you want it to be? i am not a fan of streaming because you have to purchase access to the service AND have reliable internet in order to use the service. even people in major metropolitan areas don't have access to reliable streaming. AND the catalog is never full of what i want to see so it's just like a crapshoot where all you get is crap...maybe.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
that's another reason I can't get on board (yet) - shit disappearing and cycling in and out = DUD
― flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link