one has Simon Phillips playing drums, I know that much.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 October 2018 03:04 (five years ago) link
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Yes! I remember describing the staging of "San Jacinto" to my dad the next day.
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 26 October 2018 03:08 (five years ago) link
I Have The Touch slightly ahead The Family And The Fishing Net for me. This album to me is split between sound and production experiments and standard tunes and I think I Have The Touch is a good enough tune to warrant the vote. I wonder how feted Gabriel would be if he hadn't been in Genesis before making albums 1-4? He's one of those artists who is genuinely interested in sound - something you'd like to think is true of everyone who makes music for a living. Alas...
― Daf, Friday, 26 October 2018 11:16 (five years ago) link
went for san jacinto
― fred-a van vleet (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link
the album mix of I Have the Touch is def inferior to the Shaking the Tree one imo, loses some of the propulsion and eeriness
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 October 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link
I have never heard the Birdy soundtrack and this thread is making me think I need to
Anyone read this? http://www.amazon.com/Without-Frontiers-Music-Peter-Gabriel-ebook/dp/B00FSV7JG4/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1540569670&sr=1-3&keywords=peter+gabriel
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link
The Birdy soundtrack was for years my pre-bed album.
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link
"Shock the Monkey" now and forever.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link
certainly in my list of top five favorite albums of all time. Voted FAmily and the Fishing Net which to me is basically the pinnacle of Gabriel's solo years along with Mercy Street. Dark, involving, mysterious, fucking weird.
― akm, Friday, 26 October 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link
"Dark, involving, mysterious and fucking weird" is pretty much OTM regarding that track. 'Lay Your Hands On Me' fits the bill, too.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 26 October 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link
Hi tried to revisit this territory on Up but it just didn't click.
― dinnerboat, Friday, 26 October 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link
I've just finished watching that South Bank Show documentary which I hadn't seen before, so it was great to watch Gabriel working on portions of this record. Somehow, I'd forgotten that David Lord was the producer on this one - the same guy who'd work on XTC's The Big Express in '84 and (if I remember correctly) was recently found running a brothel.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 26 October 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link
San Jacinto, especially the thrilling start to the climax
I HOLD THE LIGHT [ker-chungggg]
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 27 October 2018 00:26 (five years ago) link
haha didn't know that about david lord. he did great work. was he a good brothel owner too?
― akm, Saturday, 27 October 2018 00:41 (five years ago) link
it's "hold the line" xp
― akm, Saturday, 27 October 2018 00:42 (five years ago) link
This record may be a bit cliched in its exoticism (“African drum sections!” “Headless chickens!”) but it sounds fabulous and is sequenced quite well. Even tho the whole thing feels very much of a piece, the pop songs (“I Have the Touch,” “Shock the Monkey”) and piano ballad (”Wallflower”) provide sharp relief to the more textural experiments here.The individual tracks hold up a little less well. Tho Marotta‘s performance on “I Have the Touch” remains inspired, “The Rhythm of the Heat” that captivated my sixteen year-old mind feels a little facile today. And the great drama of “San Jacinto,” a close cousin of TH’s “The Listening Wind,” almost makes up for a narrative that is more or less the Crying Indian commercial from the 1970s. Not sure if it’s my favorite or not but “Shock the Monkey” may be the only thing here that works as well on the record as it does as a single. First digitally recorded and mastered pop album IIRC.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 27 October 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link
The record cover is so great, wish I knew what it actually was.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 27 October 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link
As a kid I had the birdy soundtrack years before I had this album so that has a lot of influence over my favorite tracks here. Lord how I wish I could have seen this tour
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 27 October 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
I saw him play the Brendan Byrne arena (meadowlands, NJ) on the So tour and he played a bunch of these. Opened with San Jacinto. Also played Shock The Monkey and I have vivid memories of Lay Your Hands On Me, which had some super cool hand movements.
I was at this same concert. My memories are vague but very positive. Bought the tour book which had all kinds of weird shit in it (an interview with Koko the sign language gorilla, some mildly disconcerting manipulated photos of Gabriel, etc.).
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
The arrangements on the So tour were super-neat.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3oub27yzpo&list=PLeE7IE2UYXF8dyglwIWt-zWtN378rr31a
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
This whole show is cool. Don't know why it wouldn't let me link to the complete one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lhxencRCCU
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRCFKoCs9nk
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:30 (five years ago) link
From http://realworldgalleries.com/security/
“The artwork on album 4 was something that I’d been working on with a sculptor called Malcolm Poynter, who’s work I thought was really strong. There was a book I’d seen on distortions, a little like fairground mirrors, and we started using Flexi Mirrors”. Peter GabrielThe final sleeve art is from an experimental video directed by Malcolm Poynter, with professional help from his editor friend David Gardner. The cover features the distorted image of Peter.“My memory of this project, which was crucially pre Photoshop, was us dragging around Flexi Mirrors and Fresnel Lenses, and some sculptures, and then having a very creative (if chaotic) time. It was good!” Malcolm Poynter.
The final sleeve art is from an experimental video directed by Malcolm Poynter, with professional help from his editor friend David Gardner. The cover features the distorted image of Peter.
“My memory of this project, which was crucially pre Photoshop, was us dragging around Flexi Mirrors and Fresnel Lenses, and some sculptures, and then having a very creative (if chaotic) time. It was good!” Malcolm Poynter.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link
oh, that's nice to hear. I wondered about that for years. It looks like he's wearing a ski mask but maybe not. The images in the internal liners are great too.
― akm, Saturday, 27 October 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link
Just did an image search for Malcolm Poynter--lots of distorted face sculptures. He also did a cover for Test Dept.:
https://img.discogs.com/tKaSJwgQs04AhMtgQqqi4K6BjOo=/fit-in/555x557/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-359226-1405021199-4577.jpeg.jpg
― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 27 October 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link
Wow, I’d always thought the photo was a still from a security camera, per the album title.
― dinnerboat, Saturday, 27 October 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link
Also, as Listening Wind is mentioned upthread, PG’s cover is the only one of his orchestral songs that does anything for me. Could be a Security B-side:
https://youtu.be/RZ2omdkdk2k
― dinnerboat, Saturday, 27 October 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link
Time for an 'album covers sourced from video stills' thread, a la Cabaret Voltaire
― MaresNest, Saturday, 27 October 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link
well, I’ve got it narrowed down to not The Family and the Fishing Net and probably not Wallflower
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 27 October 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link
that’s enough work for today I think
Wow, I’d always thought the photo was a still from a security camera, per the album title.― dinnerboat, Saturday, October 27, 2018 8:27 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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Nah, I don't think Gabriel would have designed the artwork around a title that the album wasn't really meant to have!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 28 October 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link
No, but if the artwork was in place and the label said, "Sorry, dude, we're gonna need a title for this one," Security might have seemed like an obvious choice.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 28 October 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link
I dunno about obvious, but I quite like the way the title Security is at odds with the image - there's really nothing about that image that seems designed to make one feel secure.
It's not just the distortion effects, I think the way that the photo on the front cover has been lit as well as the colour scheme that the final product has both add to the sinister edge. The fact that people tend to not have any idea what's going on makes the sleeve creepier.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 28 October 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link
yesterday I found PG1, PG4, So, (2002 remasters) and UP on cd for 50p each.sometimes I love charity shops.PG1 will require a few listens I suspect, but as soon as it started I immediately knew PG4 was going to be the one for me.
― mark e, Sunday, 28 October 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
you haven't heard them before? 4 is certainly the winner of that batch, followed by So. Up would be improved by being shorter but at least he took 'burn you up, burn you down' off before releasing it (it was on the promos), it's a terrible song.
― akm, Sunday, 28 October 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
It took a long time (and middle age) for me to appreciate Us but now I love it. Up is still a work in progress for me. Certainly starts out wonderfully. Need more time with it.
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link
mark e, buy any of the film scores with confidence if you see them, they rule
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
yup. all new to me.may have had So on cassette at some point, but I am not 100% certain.and yeah, listened to Us earlier today, and its a definite moody sunday listen. really enjoyed it.and of course if I see any of the soundtracks I will grab them, his stuff has always been on my 'see it, buy it' list when I dig around my charity shops.I have just had to wait a little longer, hence why yesterdays score was a lovely surprise.just a shame they didn't have PG2 and PG3.
― mark e, Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link
Until I looked it up, I always thought that the album cover reminded me of Colonel Stapp's rocket sled experiments.
http://supercurioso.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/1738_1279s-Copy.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 28 October 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 28 October 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link
I saw the So tour in Glasgow, sat in probably the farthest away seats at the SECC which is/was a big useless metal barn, still enjoyed the show but yeah, I recall it being quiet.
― MaresNest, Sunday, 28 October 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link
One thing I love about that South Bank Show episode is Gabriel sketching out 'I Have the Touch' and proper getting into it...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 29 October 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link
I saw Gabriel at the Human Rights Now tour a few years after So and it was so thrilling and amazing. He did the stage dive and everything. I saw him multiple times on the US tour and I think he'd dropped that by then (great though those shows were)
― akm, Monday, 29 October 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link
Weird that this didnt get auto-bumped when the results came in. Every track got a vote, though!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 5 November 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link
this is the best album ever made
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 04:10 (four years ago) link
I unfortunately heard and loved Plays Live first - the studio versions are weirdly awkward sounding to me, rhythmically :-(
― StanM, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 05:45 (four years ago) link
it's my favorite. also the first album i ever got on cd, and for a kid who was used to just taping stuff off the radio with cheap cassettes, i was NOT prepared for the sound of PG's opening wail jumping out of the speakers and into, you know, my soulllllllllllllll
― orifex, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 06:24 (four years ago) link
'Plays Live' was my gateway to PG as a kid, the versions of all the Security tracks are fantastic.
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link
wait - there's a band that covers songs from the first four albums and Jerry Marotta is their drummer!?
http://securityprojectband.com/go/
― StanM, Friday, 6 September 2019 08:42 (four years ago) link
yeah I love curtains. I had it on the big time CD single.
― akm, Saturday, 14 September 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link