Of all the various versions of "I Have The Touch", there's a rare/alternate version (recorded by Peter Walsh of Penthouse & Pavement fame) of that I'm very fond of... and am pretty sure is a wholly different performance (vox/instruments) from the LP version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px4KcWq-ACo
I have it on the flip of this lol:https://www.discogs.com/Peter-Gabriel-Walk-Through-The-Fire/release/1211782
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
Loved Shock The Monkey as a kid discovering MTV.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link
My favorite gag ever on South Park is when Stan was talking to the goth kids about how to win Wendy back and they told him to stand under her window playing Peter Gabriel with a boombox Say Anything-style.
Cut to... Stan at her window blaring "Shock the Monkey."
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 25 October 2018 22:20 (five years ago) link
Albert, that mix is on Shaking the Tree, I'm sure.
Also: Gabriel was rather handsome for a while, no?
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link
is he? kinda doughy
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 October 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link
well, now
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 October 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju85sA8UTjc
― MaresNest, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link
So I can see there's these studio versions of "I Have The Touch":
LP version, 4:36'85 remix, 3:44 (found on "Shaking The Tree")Robbie Robertson mix, 4:19 (found on "Hit")Phenomenon soundtrack version, 5:27 (an extended version of the Robertson mix)
Did I miss anything? I don't see anything that's 5:00 long as stated on that Discogs entry.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 26 October 2018 02:37 (five years ago) link
Rhythm of the Heat is a strange opener.
But it made a great concert opener on that tour as the band entered drum corps style through the back of the theater.
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 26 October 2018 02:46 (five years ago) link
I saw the tour for this album and "San Jacinto" was so spectacular that I completely forgot about the other songs on here.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 26 October 2018 02:57 (five years ago) link
Is the Deutsches Album version of "I Have the Touch" an alternate mix? There are a lot of differences between the two albums, but I don't remember if that's one of them.
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 26 October 2018 03:01 (five years ago) link
Albert, that mix is on Shaking the Tree, I'm sure.― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, October 25, 2018 3:32 PM (four hours ago)
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, October 25, 2018 3:32 PM (four hours ago)
Negative, the shaking the tree version is 3m45s and the version I posted is 5m05s.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 26 October 2018 03:02 (five years ago) link
It's just shorter. Both versions have Gabriel adding ONLY...ONLY before "Wanting contact..." and those roller coaster synths.
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2018 03:03 (five years ago) link
one has Simon Phillips playing drums, I know that much.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 October 2018 03:04 (five years ago) link
xxxxpost
Yes! I remember describing the staging of "San Jacinto" to my dad the next day.
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 26 October 2018 03:08 (five years ago) link
I Have The Touch slightly ahead The Family And The Fishing Net for me. This album to me is split between sound and production experiments and standard tunes and I think I Have The Touch is a good enough tune to warrant the vote. I wonder how feted Gabriel would be if he hadn't been in Genesis before making albums 1-4? He's one of those artists who is genuinely interested in sound - something you'd like to think is true of everyone who makes music for a living. Alas...
― Daf, Friday, 26 October 2018 11:16 (five years ago) link
went for san jacinto
― fred-a van vleet (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link
the album mix of I Have the Touch is def inferior to the Shaking the Tree one imo, loses some of the propulsion and eeriness
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 October 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link
I have never heard the Birdy soundtrack and this thread is making me think I need to
Anyone read this? http://www.amazon.com/Without-Frontiers-Music-Peter-Gabriel-ebook/dp/B00FSV7JG4/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1540569670&sr=1-3&keywords=peter+gabriel
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link
The Birdy soundtrack was for years my pre-bed album.
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link
"Shock the Monkey" now and forever.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link
certainly in my list of top five favorite albums of all time. Voted FAmily and the Fishing Net which to me is basically the pinnacle of Gabriel's solo years along with Mercy Street. Dark, involving, mysterious, fucking weird.
― akm, Friday, 26 October 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link
"Dark, involving, mysterious and fucking weird" is pretty much OTM regarding that track. 'Lay Your Hands On Me' fits the bill, too.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 26 October 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link
Hi tried to revisit this territory on Up but it just didn't click.
― dinnerboat, Friday, 26 October 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link
I've just finished watching that South Bank Show documentary which I hadn't seen before, so it was great to watch Gabriel working on portions of this record. Somehow, I'd forgotten that David Lord was the producer on this one - the same guy who'd work on XTC's The Big Express in '84 and (if I remember correctly) was recently found running a brothel.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 26 October 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link
San Jacinto, especially the thrilling start to the climax
I HOLD THE LIGHT [ker-chungggg]
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 27 October 2018 00:26 (five years ago) link
haha didn't know that about david lord. he did great work. was he a good brothel owner too?
― akm, Saturday, 27 October 2018 00:41 (five years ago) link
it's "hold the line" xp
― akm, Saturday, 27 October 2018 00:42 (five years ago) link
This record may be a bit cliched in its exoticism (“African drum sections!” “Headless chickens!”) but it sounds fabulous and is sequenced quite well. Even tho the whole thing feels very much of a piece, the pop songs (“I Have the Touch,” “Shock the Monkey”) and piano ballad (”Wallflower”) provide sharp relief to the more textural experiments here.The individual tracks hold up a little less well. Tho Marotta‘s performance on “I Have the Touch” remains inspired, “The Rhythm of the Heat” that captivated my sixteen year-old mind feels a little facile today. And the great drama of “San Jacinto,” a close cousin of TH’s “The Listening Wind,” almost makes up for a narrative that is more or less the Crying Indian commercial from the 1970s. Not sure if it’s my favorite or not but “Shock the Monkey” may be the only thing here that works as well on the record as it does as a single. First digitally recorded and mastered pop album IIRC.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 27 October 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link
The record cover is so great, wish I knew what it actually was.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 27 October 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link
As a kid I had the birdy soundtrack years before I had this album so that has a lot of influence over my favorite tracks here. Lord how I wish I could have seen this tour
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 27 October 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
I saw him play the Brendan Byrne arena (meadowlands, NJ) on the So tour and he played a bunch of these. Opened with San Jacinto. Also played Shock The Monkey and I have vivid memories of Lay Your Hands On Me, which had some super cool hand movements.
I was at this same concert. My memories are vague but very positive. Bought the tour book which had all kinds of weird shit in it (an interview with Koko the sign language gorilla, some mildly disconcerting manipulated photos of Gabriel, etc.).
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
The arrangements on the So tour were super-neat.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3oub27yzpo&list=PLeE7IE2UYXF8dyglwIWt-zWtN378rr31a
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
This whole show is cool. Don't know why it wouldn't let me link to the complete one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lhxencRCCU
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRCFKoCs9nk
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:30 (five years ago) link
From http://realworldgalleries.com/security/
“The artwork on album 4 was something that I’d been working on with a sculptor called Malcolm Poynter, who’s work I thought was really strong. There was a book I’d seen on distortions, a little like fairground mirrors, and we started using Flexi Mirrors”. Peter GabrielThe final sleeve art is from an experimental video directed by Malcolm Poynter, with professional help from his editor friend David Gardner. The cover features the distorted image of Peter.“My memory of this project, which was crucially pre Photoshop, was us dragging around Flexi Mirrors and Fresnel Lenses, and some sculptures, and then having a very creative (if chaotic) time. It was good!” Malcolm Poynter.
The final sleeve art is from an experimental video directed by Malcolm Poynter, with professional help from his editor friend David Gardner. The cover features the distorted image of Peter.
“My memory of this project, which was crucially pre Photoshop, was us dragging around Flexi Mirrors and Fresnel Lenses, and some sculptures, and then having a very creative (if chaotic) time. It was good!” Malcolm Poynter.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link
oh, that's nice to hear. I wondered about that for years. It looks like he's wearing a ski mask but maybe not. The images in the internal liners are great too.
― akm, Saturday, 27 October 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link
Just did an image search for Malcolm Poynter--lots of distorted face sculptures. He also did a cover for Test Dept.:
https://img.discogs.com/tKaSJwgQs04AhMtgQqqi4K6BjOo=/fit-in/555x557/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-359226-1405021199-4577.jpeg.jpg
― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 27 October 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link
Wow, I’d always thought the photo was a still from a security camera, per the album title.
― dinnerboat, Saturday, 27 October 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link
Also, as Listening Wind is mentioned upthread, PG’s cover is the only one of his orchestral songs that does anything for me. Could be a Security B-side:
https://youtu.be/RZ2omdkdk2k
― dinnerboat, Saturday, 27 October 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link
Time for an 'album covers sourced from video stills' thread, a la Cabaret Voltaire
― MaresNest, Saturday, 27 October 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link
well, I’ve got it narrowed down to not The Family and the Fishing Net and probably not Wallflower
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 27 October 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link
that’s enough work for today I think
Wow, I’d always thought the photo was a still from a security camera, per the album title.― dinnerboat, Saturday, October 27, 2018 8:27 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― dinnerboat, Saturday, October 27, 2018 8:27 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Nah, I don't think Gabriel would have designed the artwork around a title that the album wasn't really meant to have!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 28 October 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link
No, but if the artwork was in place and the label said, "Sorry, dude, we're gonna need a title for this one," Security might have seemed like an obvious choice.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 28 October 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link
I dunno about obvious, but I quite like the way the title Security is at odds with the image - there's really nothing about that image that seems designed to make one feel secure.
It's not just the distortion effects, I think the way that the photo on the front cover has been lit as well as the colour scheme that the final product has both add to the sinister edge. The fact that people tend to not have any idea what's going on makes the sleeve creepier.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 28 October 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link
yesterday I found PG1, PG4, So, (2002 remasters) and UP on cd for 50p each.sometimes I love charity shops.PG1 will require a few listens I suspect, but as soon as it started I immediately knew PG4 was going to be the one for me.
― mark e, Sunday, 28 October 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
you haven't heard them before? 4 is certainly the winner of that batch, followed by So. Up would be improved by being shorter but at least he took 'burn you up, burn you down' off before releasing it (it was on the promos), it's a terrible song.
― akm, Sunday, 28 October 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
It took a long time (and middle age) for me to appreciate Us but now I love it. Up is still a work in progress for me. Certainly starts out wonderfully. Need more time with it.
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link
"wait - there's a band that covers songs from the first four albums and Jerry Marotta is their drummer!?"
yes, with Happy Rhodes doing vocals now and they've expanded their repretoire to include Kate Bush. You can check out their live releases, they're all pretty cool.
― akm, Sunday, 8 September 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link
I will, thx!
― StanM, Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
The Plays Live version of “The Rhythm of the Heat” def. struck me as inferior to the studio version. I remember hearing it for the first time and thinking the big African drum ensemble coda was less powerful and Gabriel did a much shorter “The rhythm has my/SOOOOOOOO-UUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLL.”
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 13 September 2019 03:37 (four years ago) link
btw, Gabriel release a 62 track rarities collection digitally today. All the b-sides, etc.
― akm, Friday, 13 September 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
but no "Out, Out"!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 September 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link
The cover of Joseph Arthur's "In the Sun" — one of the rarities on the new collection — is one of my favourite songs of his. All the brooding & menace of his sound (90s-fied, like the production on Us) but with more direct lyrics.
― dinnerboat, Friday, 13 September 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link
Flotsam and Jetsam is grayed out in my Spotify. Not available in the US?
The omission of "Out, Out" is puzzling, but then it didn't appear on Rated PG either. Kind of hard to imagine that there would be a rights issue — I assume PG controls all of his recordings at this juncture.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 13 September 2019 14:05 (four years ago) link
I'm a big fan of "Quiet Steam" and the Massive Attack remix of "Games Without Frontiers." So this collection is out now?
Tangentially related, I wonder how much Pearl Jam made for smartly releasing all of those live CDs when the getting was good, or certainly better? It must have been like minting money. Every time an artist like PG does something like this so late in the game, or Springsteen suddenly opens the vaults to studio stuff and especially live stuff, or Prince reissues not coming out until after his death and so on, I think, man, I know you're artists, but I wish you released all this shit people have been collecting and trading for decades when you could have made some moolah. I know Gabriel must still be swimming in it, but my first thought when this most forward thinking of artists did the anniversary "So" tour followed by a joint tour with Sting was that he needed the cash to support all his various endeavors.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 September 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link
He seems like a massive perfectionist though, so he probably had “plans” for all of it. I guess this is just a time to let go.
― Manitobiloba (Kim), Friday, 13 September 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link
"but no "Out, Out"!"
yeah it's weird that's not on there when what I feel are duplicate or kind of useless remixes of other songs are. I'd actually forgotten what that song sounded like so I went to YouTube and it's hardly a bad track. Lovetown was left off too so I thought maybe there's some licensing thing, but who knows. Out, Out is one of two songs he did that were done with Nile Rodgers (the walk through the fire remix included was as well) and they're both overly clattery and cluttered sounding IMO; not the best creative fit.
― akm, Saturday, 14 September 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
flotsam and jetsam is available on apple music in the US, so there might just be a lag with spotify, dunno, I don't use it.
my favorite discovery on this release (aside from me and my teddy bear which i'd totally forgotten about) is the elbow remix of More Than This which is better than the album version. I know some on ILX hate Elbow and find the dull but I wouldn't mind Garvey producing a Gabriel album at this point.
― akm, Saturday, 14 September 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link
I didn't care for it at the time but listening back, Curtains is a lovely song, but it's still called 'Curtains'
― Maresn3st, Saturday, 14 September 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
yeah I love curtains. I had it on the big time CD single.
― akm, Saturday, 14 September 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link