US Politics, October 2018: next week will be even longer

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yup

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 October 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link

And not only easy, but potentially free of any meaningful consequence. Particularly if you swing despotic! Our prez just adores you guys. Come foment as much domestic strife as u want, u rascals.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 October 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

it's almost as if.. conservatives are the real globalist cucks

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 25 October 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link

cucked from both sides

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 October 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link

Bolton got his way on the INF Treaty this week. Given Russian non-compliance that’s probably not the end of the world. But if he gets his way on North Korea, it might be 👇🏽 https://t.co/iH7mCRIjyk

— Vipin Narang (@NarangVipin) October 25, 2018

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 25 October 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link

Don’t you mean killer?

badg, Thursday, 25 October 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link

Former Fox News star Megyn Kelly has been ousted from her daytime show at NBC and is expected to be paid the remainder of her $69 million-three year contract, The Daily Mail and New York Post reported Thursday.

the fleeking of america (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 October 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

How many millions huh huh huh

DJI, Thursday, 25 October 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

World-class athletes are among the least worldly people around. All they learn from about the age of 12 onward centers on their sport. Their entire world shrinks down to the inside of a gym, an ice rink, a football pitch, a weight room, a track. They learn nothing of the greater world. If they succeed to stardom, as Jenner did, they often do not need to learn anything at all for the remainder of their lives. So, not surprisingly, Jenner's an ignorant fool in many ways.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 25 October 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

Former Fox News star Megyn Kelly has been ousted from her daytime show at NBC and is expected to be paid the remainder of her $69 million-three year contract, The Daily Mail and New York Post reported Thursday.

is there really no clause in her contract saying she can be fired without pay if she spouts yet more of the ignorant damaging racist bullshit she's spouted her entire career?

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Thursday, 25 October 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link

but... that's what they paid her to do

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 October 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link

yeah nbc knew exactly what she was

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 25 October 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

but now she won't be doing it and they're still paying her for it. if nbc knew exactly what she was, why have they fired her while still having to pay her?

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:01 (five years ago) link

because her coworkers hate her? because sponsors are threatening to drop? who cares

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link

Fired because her ratings are shitty and she's a PR department's daily dose of heartburn, and they presumably don't subscribe to the Sunk Costs Fallacy; still getting paid to prevent her suing them and incurring even more costs.

WmC, Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link

^^^

portugal. the bland (sleeve), Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link

if they're still paying her, can they prevent her from going on-air somewhere else?

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

That's my biggest question right now -- I sure hope so.

WmC, Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:12 (five years ago) link

that would be pretty cool if it's possible

portugal. the bland (sleeve), Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

Yeah, that's my question - whether her contract includes a non-compete clause, or if she'll be back on Fox by Thanksgiving.

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

everyone at fox hates her even more.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

geraldo doesn’t. he posted “come back” today

maura, Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link

geraldo and megyn kelly should branch off and start their own network

the fleeking of america (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link

Broadcast out of an old chest freezer in some junkyard somewhere. No, go ahead and get in, guys, all of the equipment you'll need is set up inside, I promise.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

wasn't she the one who did an extensive interview with Alex Jones on national TV

frogbs, Thursday, 25 October 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

yes

maura, Thursday, 25 October 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link

she is not quite the worst thing in broadcast tv but close

akm, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:17 (five years ago) link

Part of me doesn't want to be churlish toward Caitlyn Jenner because humans in general are already averse to changing their opinions out of fear of perception, but I don't know if this is that. I think it's typical "I'm conservative on most issues [read: in favor of inflicting suffering through policy] except on the pet cause of my or my family's suffering"
There has been no learning here.

I also think there isn't really sympathy to feel for her because she will be perfectly comfortable no matter what policy or precedent is set about, say, workplace discrimination.

comesayhey, Friday, 26 October 2018 00:34 (five years ago) link

fuck her, she seems really stupid

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 October 2018 00:48 (five years ago) link

ignorance and naivete can look like stupidity and generally functions the same as stupidity in practical terms

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 26 October 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link

functionally stupid

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 October 2018 00:57 (five years ago) link

IMO the more people who say "I was wrong about this guy" the better

portugal. the bland (sleeve), Friday, 26 October 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link

sure, but she kind of loses all credibility having stuck with him this far.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 October 2018 01:05 (five years ago) link

If they succeed to stardom, as Jenner did, they often do not need to learn anything at all for the remainder of their lives. So, not surprisingly, Jenner's an ignorant fool in many ways.

such disrespect for a star of Can't Stop the Music

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 01:08 (five years ago) link

how would you evaluate Travis Bickle politically? (beyond obv racist)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 01:09 (five years ago) link

Well, he's psychotic, so I don't know how well he fits any established models. Obviously he has some sense of morality, of right and wrong, but it's completely distorted.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 October 2018 01:12 (five years ago) link

he fits some of the recent ones

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 01:23 (five years ago) link

somebody upthread said RdN was famous for playing righties, and i dont see that particularly applying to Vito Corleone, Jake LaMotta or Rupert Pupkin

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 01:35 (five years ago) link

that was me, I think. i don't think of his characters as left, more sort of libertarian/free market capitalist with fascist undertones. Vito, Fockers dad, Deer Hunter guy, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 October 2018 01:40 (five years ago) link

So the bombs went through a South Florida mail facility! #FloridaPride

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2018 01:47 (five years ago) link

"the White House is considering whether to shut the border to Central Americans and deny them the opportunity to seek asylum in the United States, asserting similar emergency powers used during the administration’s controversial travel ban in early 2017, according to administration officials."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pentagon-plans-to-dispatch-800-more-troops-to-us-mexico-border-in-response-to-migrant-caravan/2018/10/25/6a121944-d868-11e8-83a2-d1c3da28d6b6_story.html?utm_term=.98deb517d63f

Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 01:56 (five years ago) link

ok giuliani, now all you have to do is try NOT to say "we're closing the border because it's politics and they're not white" on national tv

Karl Malone, Friday, 26 October 2018 01:57 (five years ago) link

reminds me, Giuliani seems to have disappeared!

Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 02:02 (five years ago) link

oh, maybe not (:

Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 02:08 (five years ago) link

giuliani is traveling this week, doing totally normal things in Armenia

Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, raised eyebrows when ThinkProgress first reported that he would be speaking alongside a sanctioned Russian official at a panel in Armenia on Tuesday.

The confusion was only amplified by the actual content of Giuliani’s speech — prompting observers to question why the former New York City mayor would be invited to speak about technology in the first place.

Giuliani appeared next to sanctioned Russian official Sergei Glazyev, a man with a history of working closely with some of the U.S.’s most notorious anti-Semites. The pair were on a panel at the Eurasian Week conference, an annual affair dedicated to the future of the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU), which includes Russia, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, and Belarus.

The topic of Giuliani’s panel was “Technological breakthrough and EAEU potential,” a subject on which Giuliani would appear to have little expertise. But that lack of knowledge didn’t stop Giuliani — whom Trump previously named as an adviser on cybersecurity affairs — from speaking for roughly 20 minutes on topics ranging from sharing intelligence to electric grids to the safety of driver-less cars.

Karl Malone, Friday, 26 October 2018 02:12 (five years ago) link

good point from weigel in his column today

Think about Newt Gingrich, who stays in touch with Republican candidates and regularly appears on Fox News. Two months ago, he suggested that the story of an immigrant arrested for the killing of an Iowa woman could shake up the election: “If Mollie Tibbetts is a household name by October, Democrats will be in deep trouble.” One month later, Gingrich said the “rallying cry” of the election would be “Remember Kavanaugh.” And now, he's betting the election on the caravan.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 October 2018 03:06 (five years ago) link

Newt knows that it is almost impossible to keep such stories going after they've been thoroughly aired and that once they've dropped off the media radar the public instantly forgets about them in favor of whatever is the newest sensation going. Newt also knows that it is not the job of a conservative media pundit to be correct, but to have a strongly defined opinion that feeds the interests of his audience. Hence, he just babbles on about whatever news his audience is currently engaged with and makes empty predictions that will please them. This is just the standard operating stupidity of cable news commentary, but especially FOX News.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 26 October 2018 03:16 (five years ago) link

i should have posted the bit immediately before that too, which makes the point that the GOP is flailing to no obvious effect:

What the media are covering instead is an election that has settled into a groove, with Democrats focusing relentlessly on health care and Republicans trying out a number of themes — the caravan, the Brett M. Kavanaugh nomination, the “civility” debate, even an out-of-the-blue tax cut resolution — to undercut the Democrats. One party is consistent and holds the lead in most key House and gubernatorial races; the other party is frantic, edging ahead in some Senate races and trying to shift the dynamics in the rest. While the Republican position has improved in some races, the party and its PACs are now using late money from large donors to go on the air in districts that were not seen as competitive this summer.

It's as if Democrats have spent six months selling Coca-Cola Classic, while Republicans have launched marketing campaigns for Pepsi, then Crystal Pepsi, then Dr Pepper, then Health-Ade Kombucha, and finally, Slim Jims.

but yeah, it's true that gingrich is trying to be good tv rather than win elections necessarily.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 October 2018 03:38 (five years ago) link


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